Does Borrowed Time Need A Nerf?

A small cooldown might be justified. For example, it's pretty BS that a Survivor can run into the basement and give multiple Survivors immunity for 15 seconds each.

OR maybe make bt only work of the hooked person is using the perk so he doesn't need to rely on the unhooker,

It could use a nerf, maybe we can make the deep wound effect harsher

*Shifty Legion main eyes*

I remember when bt would apply to both the hooked survivor and the rescuer. I feel bt is fine. I think the issue is people make unsafe hooks because of bt.

I think it needs a buff if anything. I think you should just get it no matter what when you get off the hook if someone has it equipped. 15 seconds isn't that long and won't be needed if the killer isn't hovering nearby. But then it will actually work against camping stealth killers, Freddy, and 16m terror radius killers who beeline back to the hook but don't actually proc it.

So, what happens when I just hook somebody, and don't even have time to leave the area before *SOUND NOTIFICATION* of an unhook, where the now BT protected survivor will body block the narrow space, guarding their savior. Or they'll proceed to chase me as I chase their savior, knowing they have 20 seconds of invulnerability to hamper my progress, be it body blocking, standing in a narrow space which forces me to go around, or camping a pallet. This is normal play here, not a rare occurrence.

BT is not okay. It allows for very stupid plays, because those plays are safe.

If anything, BT should have tickets, or tokens. Certain actions, say healing for instance, would give tokens. One would need to be expended when going for the unhook while in a terror radius. Damage to a BT survivor should be reflected onto the savior, or at least a debuff of some kind. BT should not be a 'get out of jail free' card as it is now. It needs some kind of risk involved, to cultivate a more cautious and thought out playstyle around it.

I clearly said 'where the BT protected survivor will body block.' Killers are on the clock. Every second wasted is crucial. Yes, you can go around, but you waste time doing so, time you may not have to waste. When a BT survivor can stop a killer, because they know they're invulnerable, there is a problem.

Hitting the BT survivor, again, wastes time. Those three seconds allow the savior time to get to a loop, or jungle gym, or pallet, etc. So, now you sent the BT survivor off to safety, and the savior just escaped. Simply because a perk allows it. That is not okay.

Make it once per match

Dead hard once per match

Pop once per match but maybe 100% regress

BBQ only first hook

Lol nerf all op

I honestly run both DS and BT as a precaution for both me and my teammates. You never know how the killer is going to play or if they other survivor(s) are running DS also, so I like to cover all bases to make sure I don't accidentally get someone farmed and BT in EGC is *extremely* good to have.

I personally wouldn't run these as often as I do if I didn't run into SO many situations where one, the other, or both come in handy. I wish I could have fun with other builds, but the moment I go with something like Spine Chill/Resilience, a healing build, or anything fun to toy with, I get reminded very quickly why I run these two perks.

This is one of the problems I have with the survivor meta. Stacked second chance perks with little to no risk involved.

I don't think its that bad. A delay would be nice but really if you have so much pressure that multiple people are getting BT at once having them mend is also a good alternative.

Borrowed Time is fine as is. If they are going for such unsafe hooks you'll get a free trade every time. Down the BT person, hit the hooked person for the Deep Wounds, and boom you've made massive pressure for the survivors.

The problem is that it generally puts the responsibility for the consequence of poor survivor play on the killer's shoulders rather than punishing tunneling. Survivor runs up to a hook that the killer just left and farms his teammate. No biggie, you're both two hit downs now, and probably stacking other second chances on top.

I rarely see BT used well...

Most times I just see people using it to farm guaranteed safe unhooks.

That's tough lol. It already got a nerf it doesn't need another one, BT is fine the way it is . It is one of the very few camping/tunneling perks. Its balanced.

Its already been nerfed once. Its absolutely fine the way it is.

It's quite annoying when there's multiple people running it (like DS) but (also like DS) I think its effect is fine, but its conditions just need to be changed. It requires you to be within terror radius, but there's several killers that can take advantage of this to just camp with no repercussions. At least somebody can hook trade against a Bubba, but how are you supposed to reliably get somebody off hook against, say, Wraith just standing there cloaked?

There's just certain situations that feel weird such as that one I named, or with Pig and how she can crouch to remove her terror radius. I think these two second chance perks really need to, like I said before, have their conditions changed around. At the very least, start classifying certain perks as "second chance" perks or whatever name would be appropriate (sort of like how certain perks exist in a sort of "exhaustion" category) and make it to where, like exhaustion perks, you can't stack them. Either that, or perhaps allow them to be stacked but make a hard limit on how many can be brought per person/per team. I don't know, anything to prevent these things from just being stacked together to the extreme, because at that point it's too overwhelming for certain killers unless you're deciding to run a mori, which everybody always hates going against. I don't think the solution should have to be just running a mori every game and eliminating one or more people right away just to slow the game down.