What is the point of sneaking and hiding?

When people reply to this post I hope they bear in mind that you’re new and cut out their condescending remarks.

This is something that you learn with experience - you’ll know which perks to expect, how to play around them, and how to identify that a killer is running them. There are a lot of perks so it can take a while but BBQ is extremely common and you should assume that every killer is running it.

You can hide in lockers, hide behind generators (their aura hides yours), or just fake going in one direction and then go in another.

Devs even gave people the perk Distortion which you dont even have to do anything just sit on the gen. Playing around perks is a challenge to some people in this game. They just want to hold m1 or W

With every match, no matter the situation, you have to get into a habit of hiding in a locker when someone is about to be hooked.

A spicy match is when the Killer takes BBQ & Chilli and Iron Maiden.

To more broadly answer the OP, though...mostly people don't actually bother with heavy stealth and sneaking at the high end.

They just run all the second chance perks, get good at running strong tiles, take hits intentionally because it doesn't matter, and just try to waste as much killer time as possible while gens get done.

It's part of why killers talk about the role being more stressful. Because against these groups you're just constantly on this very short timer and even when you're just beating the living crap out of them it doesn't seem to help.

You are new. Everyone here has been new. One of the most exciting things for me when i started out was learning what perks others were running. Everytime i was able to determine in game what i was going against, it felt good. I felt like i was making progress. Learning.

My best advice for a mew survivor i can give, is to play killer. The experience of being on that side, offers so much information. You get to learn about killer powers, perks. You get to see how survivors counter your perks. You see how hard it is to hide behind a tree unless you are a blendette.

Also watch killer gameplay. Some streamers go out of their way to teach things. Tru3talent, int3ract, skorpionz, even monto and puppers are really good.

This is a notoriously hard game to learn as a beginner. It almost goes out of its way to not hold new players hands. For me, that was fun part.

Ways to counter BBQ & Chili

• Hide behind a generator aura (don't work on the generator)
• Hide in any locker
• Be within a 42m radius to the killer (pretty big range)
• Be further than 42m from the killer and simply move away from the spot
• Use the perk Distortion
• Use the perk Sole survivor (or don't its horrible)
• If there are 3 survivors still alive then you naturally have a 2/3 chance of NOT being the target anyway
• Use the short time the killer CAN see your aura to sneak away so as to waste their time looking for you (don't run, Urban Evasion is great for this)

There are tons of way to avoid this perk. When I play survivor (solo 99% of the time) I tend to have a "stealth" play style where I'm often the last to ever be chased. Avoiding detection perks is all part of the game and learning how they work (playing killer AND survivor) does wonders for learning how to counter them.

Every survivor with experience always assumes the killer has BBQ and will play around it.

You are not used to playing around it because you are inexperienced.

So how much more handholding as a survivor do you want in this game? Show every perk that the killer has? There's tons of Perks that you'll NEVER know if the killer has it or not, like Shadowborne. The only way to make what you want possible is to show the killer's and survivor's perks before the game starts which would be terribly boring and break many perks that are meant as a surprise in the first place.

There's already too much, you even get notified when the killer has an instadown through haunted grounds basically killing the perk unless it gets cleansed in one of those 1 in 10 games where you run into 3 ppl while somebody cleanses HG while you have infectious Fright.

You don't need to know if the killer has barbecue and chilli, the whole point of the perk is to give killers a new chase so that they don't camp, you also shouldn't hide all game because occasionally you need to take "aggro", otherwise your teammates will die way earlier.

If you have dead teammates while the killer is neither actively tunneling or camping and you haven't been in a chase then you did something wrong.

This by the way goes both ways anyways, a killer will never know if you have resilience, premonition, solidarity, DISTORTION ( a free perk by the way) etc.

So, everyone here has been really nice and have attempted to be really helpful. So now you get angry with us. I dont have 2000 hours in the game. I have less then 1000 to be honest. And the fact that im still learning things shows just how absolutely wrong you are about the complexity of this game. Simple concept but difficult to master. Like chess. Speaking of, tell anyone whos played chess as more than a hobby that you have 50 hours and are now a pro. See what they say. They'll laugh at you.

You are mad at the game because you dont feel the need to put the time in to learn. Your loss. Instead of bitching at us because you are too entitled to practice and put effort into the game, go play something else.

Yes this game does not give away information freely. Ask football coaches if they give the other team the playbook before a game. In Pokémon or magic the gathering, do you look at the opponents hand to make sure there are no surprises?

Nope. Its pvp not a hand holding competition.

And as much as i hate to say this phrase, GIT GUD

Stealth is not just hiding in a corner and hoping the killer doesn't see you. You're still learning about the game, you're going to find things you'd never seen before. As for this...

This is what's known as "risk assessment". Here's an analogy: I don't expect to get into a car crash, but I always put on my seat belt and make sure everyone else has theirs on as well, because the minor inconvenience of having to put it on or having the people in the car be a little upset is worth it if the seat belt can potentially safeguard me from death (which it has, more than once, although I wasn't driving then).

So yes, unless you're impervious to baseball bats to the skull, you should absolutely be trying to dodge them because you know someone is actively hunting you to hit you with one. You should also cleanse totems if you're worried about NOED and get into lockers if you're worried about BBQ.

If your primary issue is how do you know they are even using the perk so you can react to it, that's been answered too: You can't know, so assume they do.

There's no way to know what perks another person will bring into any given game, even other Survivors unless they tell you in pre-game chat or otherwise in contact with them. That said, you can expect Barbecue and Chili to be more common than others because of the blood point bonus it offers. I use it so much more for the points I often forget to check for auras. This means the best move is assuming they do have it until you can be reasonably sure they don't.

If the perk bothers you that much, and you have the option to do so, look into leveling Jeff for his Distortion perk. If it triggers after someone is hooked, you now know and can react accordingly.

BBQ is a basic perk to assume the killer has. In the beginning of the game is possible to verify if he has the perk after one or two hooks by his behaviour.

The point of sneaking and hiding is that after he sees your aura and comes to you, you can try hiding behind objects and continue moving out of his sight so he must waste time looking for you.

It's still likely that he will find you anyway but at that point he has already wasted at least some time and still has to chase you down.

Also a killer is likely to see more than 1 person with BBQ, he might not go after you at all. But if it is still a problem there are still counters:

• Lockers
• Distortion
• Walking one way for 4 seconds and suddenly switching directions

Also if your problem is whether a killer has it or not, BBQ is meta, it's easy to assume that every killer uses it. Majority does unless they go for a specific build or don't have it.

But usually it's best to simply continue sitting on a gen without trying to somehow counter BBQ. Use Spine Chill if you want an early warning that a killer is indeed coming for you.