De pips
Who else feels it’s unfair that in order to pip you have to do a handful of stuff and if you don’t do that you don’t pip, also it sucks when you depip because you get one hooked face camped etc, I feel the whole depip should just be removed and rank reset should occur more frequently
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You feel that it's unfair when you do horrible in a game and you get punished for it...?
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What is this post even.
You feel like if you play like crap you should actually be rewarded? What?
Even more...are you a SURVIVOR trying to say pipping is hard? KEKW?
ARE YOU OKAY?!!!!?!?!?!?1?!111!?111?:/!?>?!?!/1/11??!/!?
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Let's be honest.... The emblem system needs a rework as it can punish good play, and reward bad play at the same time....
I've depipped in games where I have 20K BP at the end. Doesn't happen often but it still happens.
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You having 20k BP doesn't mean you played a good game.
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It certainly shows how much you accomplished in the game. Wouldn't you agree? Or do you think BP awards don't go up as you do more objectives, cleanse totems and escape chases?
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And you think it’s fair when it’s not your fault and you depip for it?
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Again - 20k bloodpoints doesn't mean you had a good game. You can get that by destroying totems and dive bombing hooks, while not doing a single generator. You can do it by camping pallets and dropping them on the killer. You can do it by just repairing one generator and making it take longer by intentionally failing skillchecks.
Bloodpoints earned and how well you played have ZERO correlation. Someone with 10-15 BP could have, in theory and in practice, been a better team mate than someone with 20k BP.
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If you actually gathered what I was trying to say my whole point is around depiping unfairly, do you think it’s okay to get one hooked or face camped and depip do you think that’s fair to anyone else?
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It's part of the game. You're a survivor, pipping is a participation trophy (even the devs have stated this outright).
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answer the question though, do you think it’s fair for a survivor to depip if a killer is sitting in their face so they cannot get saved or if you are on the hook and your teammates do not help you, is that fair yes or no?
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Fair is irrelevant. The devs state camping is a legitimate play style. You CAN get saved. Nothing is stopping you from getting saved. There are perks to facilitate this. DS, borrowed time, deliverance etc.
But, the original point still stands - the devs say camping is a legit play style. So yes - it's fair.
Do you think it's fair that generators go so fast that 2 can be done by the time a 110 movement speed killer gets across a map like Mother's Dwelling?
Do you think it's fair that a killer can depip SIMPLY BECAUSE A SURVIVOR DISCONNECTS from the game or kills themselves on hook? Oh yes, survivor. Let's talk about FAIR. I will BURY you in a conversation about fair when it comes to pipping.
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i never asked what the devs said I asked do you think it’s fair not for you to be a sheep
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And here it is “the devs state” sheep’s say what?
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It feels like you're missing my point.... I never said BP had any correlation between how well you played. I said it represents what you actually did in the game. Putting aside players who hook bomb and farm and "gifted" people who intentionally miss skillchecks, BP directly correlates with what you've done in a match.
What I'm saying is I've done well in matches and depipped, and I've done bad in matches and pipped for it. I said in my first post that the emblem system doesn't always work, if you would read it. The emblem system determines your BP gain at the end as well as whether you pip or not. We're talking about pips and depips, not how well people play....
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This is where I won the argument. You had no counter. Now pipe down. You've been put in your place.
If the devs say something is within the rules, then it is fair. They DID create the game. Not you, not me.
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What is pip and depip?
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At the end of the day, you're complaining about survivor pips. Which is absolutely laughable.
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Not really I just don’t feel the need to reply to someone who relies on what they said to have an opinion, go back to eating your grass sheep
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Name calling now! I love it.
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No, you're assuming I'm only talking about survivors because that's the example I used. What's laughable is you think your assumptions are correct, and when I point out you're misinterpreting what I'm saying, you come up with a statement like that to cover your ass.
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Someone's getting hostile. Did I make too much of a point for you?
In any case - the same applies for killer. Just because you got a ton of bloodpoints doesn't mean you played well; and pipping isn't hard. It's only hard if you don't understand how the emblems work. Are they out of whack and lacking sense? Of course - but they are also easy to figure out. This is why the majority of the community knows ranks are meaningless.
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Don’t let him get to you, stay cool
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What's the matter? I didn't just quote the devs - I made 2 legitimate comparisons that you're too afraid to address. I made you sweat so bad you had to resort to name calling.
You okay, bud?
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How is pointing out your lack of understanding hostile? If you're not understanding what I'm saying intentionally or not, shouldn't I point that out? But you got defensive, so I have to assume that I made too much of a point for you... As far as your "points" go, you basically just agreed with me in that post...
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I fully understand what you're saying - but what you're saying makes no sense. You're insinuating that somehow, pipping is hard.
We've known the emblem system is garbo since it came out. They've never been able to get it right; that doesn't mean it's difficult.
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When did I insinuate it was hard? I merely pointed out it's not reliable.. Since you can depip and play well, but also pip and play like #########.
Like I said, you've completely misread what I was trying to get across.
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Not really, you brought up perks that only work in a situation, just because you’re bad at killer don’t come crying to me, DS-If you’re tunneling & camping you could just leave them on the ground and just stand over them for a minute, BT- doesn’t matter if you pull the survivor who has it off the other at the right time or if you have insidious then it doesn’t work, Deliverance-only works when you SAFELY unhook a survivor if you’re the first hooked the perk has no purpose anymore and if you’re a camper/ tunneler, then no one will get the perk activated for how you are, and I made two people dc as plague and killed two people and guess what I pipped, no gens got done it was the easiest game I had, and I can still pip from survivors one hooking themselves you just gotta apply more pressure to the other survivors, also if you’re that bad at killer maybe consider NOED Corrupt Intervention and it Ruin, from what I’ve read it seems like you need it also if you’re that worried about 4 gens getting done then you’ve already lost sorry man
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What he is saying pipping for survivor is harder than pipping for killer, I get pips as killer and I don’t need em cause with killer rank doesn’t matter but with survivor it actually does
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Perks that directly counter what you complained about, and are META perks that a greater majority of survivors use.
You don't get to criticize anyone else's skill when you're complaining about depipping - as survivor. Ironic that you say "I'm crying to you", when you're the one who made the thread...crying about survivor pips. You're also falsely insinuating that camping is a play style a majority of killers adopt - and it most certainly is not. No killer is ranking up from camping. The emblem and ranking system actively punishes for it. If they rank up due to camping, the SURVIVORS allowed it to happen. This is a HUGE tell that you're probably a newbie sitting at like 50 hours in game and barely into green ranks as survivor. Just by everything you're saying "I pipped with one hooking everyone" - you're still in green/yellow/brown ranks. Get some experience, get to ranks where you actually can't pip while one-hooking everyone, and then you're allowed to make assumptions about the role.
I like how most of your post was "omg, i do this but ur bad, omg ur so bad, just use noed, omg use ruin and corrupt cuz ur so bad omg"
KEKW
That all you got? All you seem to be able to do is insult me. Are you okay? Do you need a hug? Perhaps a fig newton?
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YOU HEARD IT HERE, FOLKS
SURVIVOR RANKS MATTER.
Now I know what I'm dealing with. A troll.
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Lol I’m fine I think you may need sum though guy you’re sending out some really bad vibes, I wasn’t complaining I was simply asking do you think it’s fair to lose participation points when you are left to die or can’t participate cause no one can save honestly if anyone’s really sweating here bud I think it might just be you
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Yikes bud are you okay?
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so ive been reading thru this thread, and really...how long have you been playing dbd? cuz tbh, you're saying things like "survivor ranks matter" and "pipping is difficult", while dismissing pretty much everything the devs have said as him being a "sheep", when he's just quoting the people who made the actual video game...
what is wrong with you? you really have problems, or are actually some sort of troll.
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I’ve been playing this game for 3 years bud, I’m perfectly fine, I just asked for his opinion and mans went super sayin on meXD
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see now ur just copying his speech patterns.
sorry man gotta report you for trolling
you were wrong, he told you you were wrong, you got embarassed and now ur doing this
silly guy
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You sir, are what I call "not pepega". I like you.
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Survivor ranks matter When you play solo which is how I play 80% of the time I play survivor and what you rely on are random Survivors and the rare chance you encounter a good survive with friends, honestly I pipped once out of the whole 3 hours I’ve just played, and I’ve been getting chased, doing gens, saving survivors and escaping and guess what no pip just black pip which I said okay fine, maybe I just gotta do more and then a couple games ya know get face camped, Teammates don’t save and I depip because I wasn’t allowed to participate even though if I had been saved or didn’t get face camped I would have, seems a little unfair too depip when things are out of your control
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Survivor ranks do not matter. If they did, you wouldn't have a bunch of pepega survivors on your team when playing solo. Which is one of the BIGGEST issues in the game right now, and why solo survivor is the most pain in the ass mode in the game.
If survivor ranks mattered, you wouldn't see red ranks flooded with people with <50 hours in the game. It's not only been stated by the devs (KEKW), but even before that it was WIDELY known, by VETERANS of the community, that ALL RANKS in the game are absolutely meaningless. Rank doesn't mean skill. Rank means playtime.
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That is one thing we can agree on
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I'm going to ask you all to keep your posts civil on this thread - there's way too much name calling and personal attacks, either stick to the topic at hand or move along to another thread!
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Or just like fix ranking system, have you ever played killer and be in purple ranks and get that one purple ranked survivor that has two red rank survive with friends I just find that hilarious when they think they can escape or you know try to be toxic
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Also I said sheep I asked for his opinion and then the devs are mentioned, and it seems like you guys think I’m just survivor sided when in honesty I play killer more because I don’t enjoy survivor man, way more fun being killer, when I play survivor it’s either bad vibes from teammates or bad vibes from the killer which honestly is a bummer, I like playing the game for fun dude but there’s certain people or certain things about it that really push my buttons ya know? Literally a couple days ago made a discussion on hitboxes asking people for their lamest hitbox experience
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Would you agree a ranking system based on skill would be better ?
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I just de pipped because of stupid matchmaking again. I am currently rank 2 survivor... my teammates were 20,20,14. We were against a rank 1 killer 😑
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It would be - but the issue is, it is IMPOSSIBLE to decipher who is skilled and who isn't with an AI, in a game like Dead by Daylight. So it can't happen.
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Even trash red rank survivors are better than rank 20s playing their first few games... I mean come on.
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The issue is - survivor ranking is so easy (killer too, to an extent, and this has been proven, it's not an opinion piece) that you can go from rank 20 to red ranks within a couple days of getting the game.
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You dont need to pip. You need to farm unhooks. Only make sure you have BT, to keep your bp. Health & safety of your bp is important.
If you max out unhooks, then you can tap a gen.
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The difference I see is rank 20s miss skill checks and unhook without borrowed time while they are in a chase. Bad red ranks maybe are not great in chases but hit their skill checks and do safer unhooks. That’s just my opinion. I don’t know how many hours devotion 3 equates to but that’s where I’m at.
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I don’t care about BP... I care about being a good teammate and I’m 99% of the time solo.
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