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How does one get good at killer?

Between the 10 minute wait times, match-ups against rank 1s while being 14, and trying not to tunnel/prox for the sake of giving survivors a fair chance, it honestly feels like I haven't learned anything.

Could any expert killers out there graciously spare some tips and strategies? More specifically regarding how to chase down loopers? I'd greatly appreciate it.

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  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    Just out of curiosity, what killer do you play? This could give me a better idea on what tips to give.

  • idroppedgodpallet
    idroppedgodpallet Member Posts: 9

    Right, sorry, I should of clarified.

    I play a few characters.

    Pyramid Head, Ghost Face, and Meyers.

  • ZaKzan
    ZaKzan Member Posts: 544

    killers are designed around camping / tunneling / slugging. Don't play by survivor rules and you'll do a lot better.

    That being said, there will be games that you just cannot win as killer as this game heavily favors survivors at the higher end of play, especially swf. This game is a PvP game, but it is not balanced like one.

    You don't chase down loopers until you have people hooked or sacrificed. Unless you can get them to either drop a pallet or get a hit within the first 15 seconds of a chase, there is no point in chasing them. You have to learn to zone and then prepare to stay in the game for 30 minutes to an hour or more if you want to win if you are fighting against survivors that understand what you're doing and start a war of attrition with you. This game is designed to be as unpleasant as possible the more seriously you play it, as it is designed around bad players instead of good players.

  • calem
    calem Member Posts: 533

    Most of it comes with patience and putting time into the game. The longer you play, the more you learn, the better you will be.

    Playing killer is way harder than survivor, it's something everyone knows. You have to micro-manage a lot of things. Which gens should I focus more? Where are the survivors? Where are my hex totems? Which pallets are up/down? Which areas of the map are dead (no pallets or jungle gyms)? Plus so many more things you have to think about.

    My advice would be just keep investing time into the game. Perks will help somewhat, but a lot of 3/4k games for killer come from game sense and knowledge. Knowing when to drop a chase if it's wasting your time, or knowing which gen to go to. Watch YouTubers or Twitch streamers play, most of them are good and give plenty of advice while they are playing. For killer gameplay, I strongly recommend Otzdarva (or the channel he usually uploads to is called 'Not Otzdarva'). He's one of the best killer players in the entire game, and he's wholesome and has a very lovely personality.

    Additionally, it is definitely worth playing survivor as well. Learning how to loop each different killer, which gens to prioritise, etc. with survivor will ultimately help with your killer games as well. Mind-gaming is the biggest and best skill to learn for this game, and there's no way to learn it well if you don't play both sides actively. If you want to look for survivor gameplay, my personal recommendation would be Fungoose. He's got a lot of game knowledge that he just spews into his commentary. It's very informative and even I am still learning things from him after a long time of playing this game.

    TL;DR just keep playing both killer and survivor and eventually you will learn how to play each of them better and you'll climb ranks. Also watch content creators.

  • idroppedgodpallet
    idroppedgodpallet Member Posts: 9

    Thank you, I agree with everything you said. I was just caught up in the dilemma of being "toxic" to the survivors vs playing a "fair" match.

  • idroppedgodpallet
    idroppedgodpallet Member Posts: 9

    I'll be sure to check them out, I was looking for good streamers who know what they're doing considering I don't, lol. Thank you for taking your time with your response, it's been very insightful.

  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    Okay.

    The first tip, which is more a general tipnthan anything is how to fake in chases. This is when you use your red stains to indicate you're going one way when you're actually going the other. An example would be on a T&L loop (The two wall loop with vaults but no pallets). Look around one corner, show your red stain to the survivor, ad soon as you do that double back and usually they'll vault. This can be used at a variety of loops, but it's best on this loop, and works well on shack.

    Next of all, another general tip, is hiding your red stain. I don't know the official name of the loop, but let's call it the double L loop (has a big L, a small L which is more half a circle and a pallet in between). This is walking backwards, and turning in the direction right as you reach the pallet to trick the survivor. This can allow you to land some nice hits, and it works on most loops.

    My final general tip is when to and not to commit to a chase. If a survivor runs to a strong tile while healthy, or sometimes even injured, and you don't feel confident in catching them quickly, don't commit. Gens get done fast, so if you know one person isn't on a gen, then you can rotate around looking for other people. (Quick note as you play Myers and PH, Myers early game doesn't want to commit to a chase what so ever and just wants to stalk, while PH can nullify strong loops if played right).

    Now that we've gone through general tips, let's get onto tips individually.

    Pyramid Heads secondary attack Punishment of the Damned, has two ways you can use it. You can A use it while they're at a pallet or Window, or B use it right infront of where they are running. Both of these work great although good survivors will fake a vault when they see you place your sword into the ground showing you want to use your secondary attack. In the case that they do, you want to stop using your power and go for the swing, as you suffer no Cooldown as long as you don't use Punishment of the Damned.

    The other tip I have for PH is when to and not to cage if there are alot of gens on your side, or you feel like people are near you, you should cage the survivor. If the gens aren't near you, you suspect no survivor is near you, you should hook the survivor. For this reason, I think Infectious Fright is a great perk on Pyramid Head, as it can help when deciding if you should hook or cage.

    Going on to Ghostface, I'm not a great one, I'll admit that, but my first thing to note is to remember during Night Shroud you have no red stain. This means you don't have to perform jukes in which you hide your red stain, but you also can't do jukes in which you show it only to go another direction.

    Ghostface has two playstyles. You can stalk them till they're 99, go up to them and 100 it, or because that doesn't always work, you should play hit and run, in which you simply use Night Shroud for the early hit. Both of these tactics work well, and you should switch depending on what survivors you're facing.

    If you feel like whenever you're going to a gen that they're never there even though progress is on the gen, I'd reccomend walking sideways as the survivor may have Spinechill, allowing them to get the early run on you.

    Finally Myers, early game never commit to chases unless a survivor is literally feeding you Stalk. Once you get to Tier II you can commit but don't always do so as sometimes it can be time consuming if it's a good survivor.

    When stalking, you want to stop the meter just before you get to Tier III. This is so you can get up right behind a survivor and use stalk them, allowing for an easy down if they're out of position.

    Remember you can vault much quicker with Tier III Myers, allowing you to get easy downs on certain loops.

    Finally, survivors are prone to making a ton of mistakes when Myers goes into Tier III, meaning that sometimes you can get a quick down if you are on a weak loop.

  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    Sorry for making that extremely long...

  • xenotimebong
    xenotimebong Member Posts: 2,803

    This video is slightly outdated, but still full of useful information. Skip to about 5:45 and there are a ton of useful tips: https://youtu.be/0UoymuGcBzY

    A good way to get better at killing survivors is to play some survivor. You’ll learn what they do and you’ll also see common killer mistakes, and learn to avoid those.

    I’d also recommend looking at some loop guides on YouTube. There are certain loops that the survivor needs to run a certain way to get a fast vault, so if you chase them the opposite way you cut down on the loop’s efficiency.

    But honestly, the biggest thing is just practice. You get better at hearing and seeing survivors, knowing what they’re likely to do, and how to deal with common things over time. You’ll learn to identify certain survivor perks and how to counter them.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    Practice mainly. I say this as a still terrible killer. But everything in this game comes down to practice. As for streamers, OhTofu has a bunch of YouTube videos covering some basics on how to run tiles and general advice. He also has alot of gameplay review videos. Those are worth a watch as well.

  • idroppedgodpallet
    idroppedgodpallet Member Posts: 9

    I'll take any information I can get. Thank you for spending a lot of time to spare the advice, I appreciate it greatly.

  • handfulofrain
    handfulofrain Member Posts: 317

    Watch people play the killers you want to get good with, get good perks and add-ons and then just play. Practice makes perfect.

  • NumB_16
    NumB_16 Member Posts: 78

    That is the wrong mindset. If you want to get better at killer you try to improve your chases and the mechanics with each specific killer. Camping and tunneling does not help you at getting good, just gives you easy kills because... you afk'ed near the hook and tunneled the unhooked survivor

  • TheLastGreatStar
    TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002
    edited July 2020

    First you need to find the right killer for you. One thing I love in any game I play is being able to be stealthy, so naturally I went for Michael Myers as he is deadly paired with Monitor & Abuse. I’d also recommend playing a lot of survivor so you can understand how most survivors operate this will help you in chases as you can sometimes predict what somebody will do before they do it, allowing you to get the down. Perks are also a major player. I never play a killer without PGTW as that’s one perk that can really slow down generator progression. BBQ is also great as it can let you know what the rest of the team are doing after you get a hook.

    Once you’ve found a killer you really like, watch other people play as them on YouTube. As you’ll find some really useful tips. The biggest thing you need to do is practise. I was awful when I first started playing killer. But then I found my groove and what does and doesn’t work for me and I started making fast progression. I’m currently rank 1 and you’ll get there to if you just keep at it. Consistency is key.

  • Justalittlepeeck
    Justalittlepeeck Member Posts: 1,101

    You become good killer when you stop

    > trying not to tunnel/prox for the sake of giving survivors a fair chance

  • ZerLukas
    ZerLukas Member Posts: 294

    Gain more experince - that's how you win. Watching someone else's gameplay in search for effective tricks/mindgames works too.

    And there always are things that survivors hate but they are effective - camping, tunnleing, slugging, 3 gen strat, NOED and moris. But you'll probably get hated for that.

  • Bovinity
    Bovinity Member Posts: 1,522

    Survivors won't "give you a chance", so don't return the favor.