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Who's the most balanced Killer?
My vote is for Mikey; he is the ONE Killer that has the most gameplay variety with addons, he can be countered by loops and mind games as well as have a huge power spike leading to snowball potential. Please devs, don't touch him as he's perfectly fine. What are your thoughts?
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Ahem billy WAS the most balanced killer imo but mike and I would say is the most balanced now. Not many killers have very much risk/reward that would warrant them being balanced, they are either high tier with no punishment, or low tier with high punishment. Mike is a good middle ground.
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I would've said billy but uh, not anymore.
Imo huntress. She takes skill to learn and use but there's counterplay to what she does. She's very lethal but suffers in map pressure. She's great in chases but she's weak to stealth. She has a 20m heartbeat but she has that 40m lullaby. Every strength has a drawback, every move a counterplay, and imo she's now the most balanced. Hopefully server sided hit detection can help fix her hitting around corners and we just gotta hope they find a way to fix the hitboxes (since last time they tried it broke her lol). Ik people say it isn't hitboxes it's latency but huntress literally does throw beach balls not hatches, which is a hitbox issue.
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Mikey is too weak to be called the most balanced imo. You can be the best Mikey in the world and you will still lose to the best survivors.
Spirit is the most balanced to me. Higher skill requirement than most killers but has enough potential to handle the best survivors if played well. Contrary to many peoples opinions that form from watching youtubers/streamers instead of playing as and against Spirit themselves at rank 1, she also has lots of counterplay that isn't just the mind numbing loop the pallet like 90% of the roster. She forces you to play different. My favorite killer to play against because of these things.
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Either hag or huntress IMO are most balanced. Probably huntress due to her having a high skill cap to be good at.
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Billy (was), Myers, Huntress (without iri head imo)
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Old billy or Freddy.
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If they fix Huntress' hatchet hit detection, I'd be inclined to agree. @GoodBoyKaru She throws whales, not beach balls lol.
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I mean if we're looking for technical terms I think the proper word is "planets" but I wanted to be kind.
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not sure who it is now but it is not myers, he is hot garbage.
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I honestly feel that Nurse and Spirit are hated because the survivor community is use to having the advantage in looping and doing the same thing that they refuse to learn or use any other methods
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Vanilla billy, easily
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Basically.
Lots of them also typically only play survivor and have no idea what's like from the killers perspective in playing them. This is where you get the people calling them "easy".
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@Endstille Are you sure you just aren't that good with him? On average I at least 2k every match unless I'm just fooling around. I respect your opinion but please provide some insight instead of childish insults, thanks
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I can get 2 kills with him without problems too. Doesn't make him a good killer, he has nothing that helps in a chase and thus is bad. Playing against him is even easier compared to trapper.
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Mikey is pretty balanced. He just needs a couple of little tweaks like making him getting to tier 2 much faster in the early game.
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@Endstille So what, in your opinion, makes a 'good killer'? 4ks? The devs have stated that two kills should be the average game results. Myers DOES have tools to help him win chases, you just have to tier up his power. EW II gives you a slight speed and lunge increase and EW III makes you a complete monster for a minute and he has addons to further increase these attributes. I'm not saying he's the BEST, all around he is just that perfect middle ground for Killer standards. Hag is right there with him too, unfortunately they are rare to encounter in my experience.
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My vote would be for Freddy. His dream snares have great antiloop potential, and being able to teleport to any generator gives him great map pressure as well.
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A week or two ago I would've said Billy, but now that he's nerfed I'd have to say Huntress. A killer with a really high skill cap that requires time to learn, but can still be outplayed by really good survivors or is just ######### on by map RNG.
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@SweetTerror (Before I comment, I do not wish to make this another 'Freddy op pls nerf' thread) I would argue he is the least balanced, he has the most bloated basekit of any Killer and his addons make him god-tier for minimal effort and no repercussions to his ability. If they gave him a slight slowdown while placing snares and added 20 seconds to the passive sleep timer, I would agree with you
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I literally ######### on every myers I encountered so far. Billy made it at least into a mindgame and offered chases which are exciting, unlike myers.
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I give up trying to converse with you @Endstille, I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation and all you're providing is irrelevant info. Please move along if you can't read/answer posts fully before spouting off. I get it, you disagree with my opinion and that's fine, but just saying 'Nope, he sucks' is both unproductive and irrelevant to the thread topic. So who do you think is the most balanced killer?
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Yes, I agree 100%.
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Exactly. He may be the weakest killer in the game. He has a lot of gimmick builds that are fun to play, but none of them are OP.
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Strongly disagree. He's not even a contender for weakest killer in the game. At worst he's B tier.
He's one of the most versatile killers in the game when it comes to play style and builds, and apart from vanity mirror they are all viable. He's got massive snowball potential. I've seen Myers players wreck some of the best teams using all the cliche meta survivor perks. I've done it many times with him, too.
In case anyone is going to jump in and say you were just facing bad survivors, then spare me. That silly excuse can be said for any Myers players you've beaten. They could have been bad and not known how to utilize him properly.
I do agree with you that none of his builds are OP. One of the reasons why he is a contender for most balanced killer. Mikey has to work to get his super strong builds going like tuft of hair or tombstone.
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guys this thread is to discuss who is the most balance killer, not the strongest.
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According to the devs? Clown.
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In what world is Miguel the weakest killer in the game? You’re either playing him wrong or going against players who play him wrong. I have no issues with him in red ranks.
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if truly mastered, Nurse, Spirit, Huntress and Plague for sure. (note huntress isnt good at all maps but spirit and nurse can even be deadly even in haddonfield if you actually play haddonfield for year) im just stating max potential.
Oni, pyramid head, Hag and deathslinger and Doc mastered are questionable(either balanced or almost).
Billy is now useless so hes not in the list. since the devs love to touch and kill the killers that are most balanced.
Freddy is not in the list because of object of obsession which counter him heavily yet hes barely balanced.
New leatherface if the patch will go live then hes balanced for sure.
all the rest are below and too much map dependent.
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The most balanced killer would be obviously the weakest. Like you said, survivors find michael most balanced because he has A LOT of counterplay.
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So why does myers suck?
Because all you have to do when he is in t3 is play it safe, drop a pallet early and do not be greedy, end of story. There you go with your machine or whatever you imagine he is, literally plague is the same as him but better. Also you can completely deny myers his power because he needs to stalk, meanwhile doing gens. So explain to me how that is making him a good killer and not something reliant on bad survivors?
Oh and for the topic, since billy has been gutted, it probably is trapper or freddy. I tend to say freddy because he has map pressure without any setup time. I just don't want it to be freddy because freddy is utter boredom since everybody plays him the same way and there is nothing skill related in his kit. There are no big plays or something to like about it. Just the same over and over again. ZZzzZzz
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Hag ez
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I don't get this logic. If he was the weakest then he would be the one killer players would be asking to be buffed on a regular basis. But its not. Legion, Clown, Bubba, Trapper, Freddy before his rework, Doc before his rework etc were killers that were constantly being champed for reworks because they were seen as weak. Not Myers.
Myers could use some little tweaks, mostly to his early game, but overall he is in a good spot. You don't see survivors complain about him, and you don't see constant buff Myers topics from killers because he is a fun and balanced killer for most players.
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Probably Demo. Can end chases fast but survivors can survive pretty well against him if they know what they're doing, and if the Demo knows what he's doing can also end chases quickly. If you mess up, you know exactly where and how you messed up and got punished for it, which is why everyone, or at least me and a few others, love playing against him (imagine having a solid chase power that doesn't feel cheap and isn't a ######### guessing game where the reward is a whole half a second of extra time if you guess right before you have to do it again?) He also has the portals which give him some decent map presence, tracking and slowdown if survivors are insistent on breaking them. He's also fun to play as, not just against.
Basically Demo is the last hope for DbD and is one of 2 killers keeping me playing, the other being Myers because his stalk feels decent now.
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Thats partially true. Legion, Doc, Freddy were changed because they were very punishing for rank 20 survivors. So they were changed not because they were weak, but they were found annoying to go against.
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@ALostPuppy Demogorgon IS in a good spot, doesn't really need much changed but I don't play them enough to fairly evaluate past that point. @Endstille You can apply your strategy to ANY Killer and if you can't stalk properly then yeah, I suppose Survivors can deny his power...I'm guessing you haven't been matched with a good example. I can agree to an extent with your choice of Trapper although I wish he had at least one more trap to start off with.
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Current live version: Billy
After PTB hits: Probably Demogorgon?
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Well...
This is awkward...
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Huntress and maybe Hag
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Also largely by the community as a whole which I find to be completely bizarre. Nearly every tier list I see him in lists him as C tier. Honestly this is an impossible question to answer because the developers definition of 'balanced' is clearly different than many in the killer community.
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For me, Michael Myers.
I might be a bit bias because I main him, but I also feel like he has the ability to get to a very strong state without immediately getting his power (unlike other killers) mostly because his T3 feels earned. Survivors have the ability to also stall your power as much as they can.
He provides a fun experience (IMO) for both killers and survivors. It's why many people love going against him.
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billy was
and then the devs thought he's fine how he's performing.
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Demo and Clown obviously
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Old billy.
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His smaller TR in EW 2 allows for sneaky hits alot of the time if you can ensure theres LOS blockers between you and your target as you approach. He also has his faster vault speed and once he hits T3 he has his boosted lunge range. These are all things that DO help in chase.
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Did anyone claim any of his builds were OP? I feel like theres a disconnect here where someone is claiming he is a balanced killer, but since hes NOT OP, you think he must be weak.
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PH
Has the ability to take control of a loop. A good PH can basically end a chase very quickly even without any perks or addons. He is also punished for messing up his power with a considerable cool down.
His rites trail allows him to capitalize on players mistakes while not ultimately relying on them and he can use them to influence the chase to survivors who respect them.
He lacks gen pressure but has potential for crowd control, anti-looping, chase dictation and moving survivors where he wants to be. Even with the recent "nerfs" a PH can basically decide he dosen't like the caged survivor where he think they are. Move to them and make them teleport somewher else. Which can be potentially good for making survivors have to drift even further from a cluster of gens or each other.
Outside of that: Old Billy, Spirit, Meyers...and debatably....pig...but only because her addons are very out of date and need a work. She has one of the most pertinent powers to actually slowing down the game and some level of lethality with the right addons.
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New Billy I guess.
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gameplay variety isnt balance. hillbilly used to be the most balanced. he is dead.
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Yes they do. I just consider that freddie's power will help him sooner than myers.
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