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Give the players option to derank oficially?
Make it like you need to pay 250 000 BP so they will derank frome rank back to rank 10
so the killers or ppl who dont like to play vs nurses and red addons will pay this and will get a good games
Killers lobby problem will be fixed
swf will be happy to punish and be toxic to mid rank players + if both sides will do this we will still get a balanced que most of the time
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That defies the whole purpose they put rank in the game for
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And the current problem is too many killers, not rank.
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I don't think this is a very good idea. It will just throw people into lower ranks where they'll dominate people who are newer to the game. You're trading skill balance for queue times which will end up driving people away and increasing queue times again. Who'd want to start playing a game where higher skilled people can just pay some bloodpoints and bully you?
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... You're kidding, right?1
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That sounds like a great idea! /sarcasm
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the que problem become like 203 weeks ago
its not about BP
the hight rank all the time was about - stay in lobby for 10 mins to get a 5 min game
and what skill about you just say?
there is the same ppl playing all over agayne and there is many survs who alrdy derank too
i know for 100% that devs will not gona do any moves to fix it(mby even broke more) but ranks in this game mean like 0 since surv have a free way to unplug0 -
That would defeat the whole point of why there is a ranking system to begin with.
Might as well get rid of rank altogheter and let player with 1 bajillion hour in the game dunk on player that don't even have 10 hour yet or hardcore player on casual.0 -
@sergantuss said:
the que problem become like 203 weeks ago
its not about BP
the hight rank all the time was about - stay in lobby for 10 mins to get a 5 min game
and what skill about you just say?
there is the same ppl playing all over agayne and there is many survs who alrdy derank too
i know for 100% that devs will not gona do any moves to fix it(mby even broke more) but ranks in this game mean like 0 since surv have a free way to unplugnice... 203 weeks was about 3.9 years ago..
The current queues has nothing to do with rank but with people farming BP for double bloodpoints which is way easier at lower ranks using killer.
Why would a survivor play in the high ranks against try hards and get way less BP?
Just derank the normal way, if you play allot then it doesnt matter.
Why unplug if it ment you wouldn't lose the 3 pips... that defeats the purpose of deranking.
Not going to spend points to remove the rank.. just DC or do nothing in the match.
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How about we try to balance the game where all Killers are about the same level and not have some of them stand out so much?
This would decrease the amounts of Billies and Nurses while making the game more fun on both sides.2 -
ChesterTheMolester
I bet frome your side its mean make all killers useless as freddy
but im sure even he is so strong for you1 -
@TheBean said:
@sergantuss said:
the que problem become like 203 weeks ago
its not about BP
the hight rank all the time was about - stay in lobby for 10 mins to get a 5 min game
and what skill about you just say?
there is the same ppl playing all over agayne and there is many survs who alrdy derank too
i know for 100% that devs will not gona do any moves to fix it(mby even broke more) but ranks in this game mean like 0 since surv have a free way to unplugnice... 203 weeks was about 3.9 years ago..
The current queues has nothing to do with rank but with people farming BP for double bloodpoints which is way easier at lower ranks using killer.
Why would a survivor play in the high ranks against try hards and get way less BP?
Just derank the normal way, if you play allot then it doesnt matter.
Why unplug if it ment you wouldn't lose the 3 pips... that defeats the purpose of deranking.
Not going to spend points to remove the rank.. just DC or do nothing in the match.
it was 2-3...
yes i love to derank but i dont wana be banned cuz of it in one day you know0 -
Im playing about 70%% Killer and frequently advocated for Buffs, take a look on my Posts, Discussions and my general track record here if you dont believe me.sergantuss said:ChesterTheMolester
I bet frome your side its mean make all killers useless as freddy
but im sure even he is so strong for you
Dont get fooled by a profile pic.
BTW next time use @ in front of a name for a summon or reply, i just saw it by coincidence.1 -
@ChesterTheMolester said:
sergantuss said:ChesterTheMolester
I bet frome your side its mean make all killers useless as freddy
but im sure even he is so strong for you
Im playing about 70%% Killer and frequently advocated for Buffs, take a look on my Posts, Discussions and my general track record here if you dont believe me.
Dont get fooled by a profile pic.
then if you one of the old players you know that they never buff old killers
even the prev buffs for trapper wrath and hag was all about addons but the killer themselfs0 -
Hag is nearly OP now and Trapper and Wraith, while still in need of minor buffs now, got severe upgrades to their basekits as well.sergantuss said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
sergantuss said:ChesterTheMolester
I bet frome your side its mean make all killers useless as freddy
but im sure even he is so strong for you
Im playing about 70%% Killer and frequently advocated for Buffs, take a look on my Posts, Discussions and my general track record here if you dont believe me.
Dont get fooled by a profile pic.
then if you one of the old players you know that they never buff old killers
even the prev buffs for trapper wrath and hag was all about addons but the killer themselfs1 -
It most likely will cause a lot of other issues. A lot of people would intentionally stay in low ranks to just taunt new players who might finally reach rank 15 and etc.
There would be a whole new mess with rank systems, lobbies would get worse at certain ranks, etc.
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@Gay Myers (Luzi) said:
It most likely will cause a lot of other issues. A lot of people would intentionally stay in low ranks to just taunt new players who might finally reach rank 15 and etc.There would be a whole new mess with rank systems, lobbies would get worse at certain ranks, etc.
People do this already, in case you didnt know.
Even the most popular survivor streamers do this regularly, then "bully" the "baby killer" and laugh at it
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Gay Myers (Luzi) said:
It most likely will cause a lot of other issues. A lot of people would intentionally stay in low ranks to just taunt new players who might finally reach rank 15 and etc.There would be a whole new mess with rank systems, lobbies would get worse at certain ranks, etc.
People do this already, in case you didnt know.
Even the most popular survivor streamers do this regularly, then "bully" the "baby killer" and laugh at itI know and I don't really know why it seems like you tried to make a reference in the way you worded the last sentence, but it would make it worse.
That's easy to understand that it easily would become worse than it already is.
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so i deranked to rank 10 first time in my 700 hours game and what i see?
the SWF
3 of them is rank 3-2 and one is rank 15
so its mean that SWF ignore the rank and its ok for you?
i mean what if i will be a new player in rank 10 and i need to play vs this guys?
So the main point is:
1) The killers must dont derank cuz it will broke a game cuz Good killer vs low survs
2) The SWF can ignore this rule and its a part of the game so no one care about new killers?Like i love the point that i can just go for surv when i got a rank 1 killer
but i dont wana play only surv the hole month cuz i dont like a 10 mins lobby wayte
and how i can see there is tons of streamers who derank like every few days so viewers can see some killer gameplayif its not a rly big problem of the game in your eyes then ok
lets put it in the same lvl like free unplug(i mean no one cares)more and more ppl know that is better to derank in every day cuz of this streams and soon forums will be fool of
oooh killer leaved the game and lost my 100% boost for none or rare itembut to be honest i know that devs dont gona do any moves to fix this
i played the game since beta and i clearly know how they work
i dont rly care about balance but i just wana play the game like i want and not in (play 2 days as killer and after this play only the surv like a month or dont complain). its just not normal to act like this with comunity0 -
I don't get why you can't earn BP in KYF at a lowered rate, maybe no bonuses from perks/offerings or something. It's annoying to wait forever in a lobby at high ranks especially if you got there fast after a reset.
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The lobby wait for killer is ridiculous.
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Lobby wait times are because there are MANY people trying to play killer right now. It's a free week, double BP (you get more points as killer), AND the Spirit just released. Everyone and their mother is trying to play killer right now and this means there are more killers than there are survivors, meaning higher lobby queue times for killers.
I think another large issue is SWF. If the ability was removed for a SWF group to gain rank at all during the matches they play together, then the problem is largely solved, as far as boosting new players AND having a higher rank person or 2 in a killer match they don't belong in.
You could even give the killer a compensation in points, as well, to offset the higher rank person in their games. Because, even though the survivors in the SWF group can't gain rank, that doesn't mean they can't still group at vastly different rank levels.
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Why not have Prestige'ing cause a deranking? It's irritating, and frustrating, to Prestige a character at higher Ranks and not have any Perks to face off against higher skilled people. Maybe Prestige could cause a derank of X% of your current or some other formula. Would make it a lot better imo, and make Prestige'ing attractive to people who don't want to lose their Perks and Items at their current Rank.
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I wouldn't mind playing in the lower ranks.
I'll bring my Nurse and go easy on the new guys while totally crushing the bully SWF squads.
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Hell no. Why would they add a feature to do what the ranking system is intended to prevent? You actually think the devs want survivors with god tier perks running circles around killers with just their starting ones, and vice versa? Because this would cause this a ton. That isn't fair to newer players, not in the slightest
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Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Gay Myers (Luzi) said:
It most likely will cause a lot of other issues. A lot of people would intentionally stay in low ranks to just taunt new players who might finally reach rank 15 and etc.There would be a whole new mess with rank systems, lobbies would get worse at certain ranks, etc.
People do this already, in case you didnt know.
Even the most popular survivor streamers do this regularly, then "bully" the "baby killer" and laugh at itI just saw 2 streamers yesterday do that, constantly dc so they don't have to play "stressful games"
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@HellDescent said:
Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.Derank down to 15 and you wont face that many red ranks anymore, yeah matchmakign is a big joke
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@HellDescent said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Gay Myers (Luzi) said:
It most likely will cause a lot of other issues. A lot of people would intentionally stay in low ranks to just taunt new players who might finally reach rank 15 and etc.There would be a whole new mess with rank systems, lobbies would get worse at certain ranks, etc.
People do this already, in case you didnt know.
Even the most popular survivor streamers do this regularly, then "bully" the "baby killer" and laugh at itI just saw 2 streamers yesterday do that, constantly dc so they don't have to play "stressful games"
Jendenise just explained to me on stream that she DCs shortly before the game ends in order to derank.
The irony is that in the beginning of her stream, she played one of her montage videos going against these low rank killers and laughing about them.
I only commented with "and you wonder why killers camp", then she explained to me that killers only do that because they are bad
Yeah no #########, this happens when you derank, you verse worse killers LOL
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.Derank down to 15 and you wont face that many red ranks anymore, yeah matchmakign is a big joke
Believe me I've tried.
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@HellDescent said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.Derank down to 15 and you wont face that many red ranks anymore, yeah matchmakign is a big joke
Believe me I've tried.
Welp
I have nothing else to say
Pretty good job so far?
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.Derank down to 15 and you wont face that many red ranks anymore, yeah matchmakign is a big joke
Believe me I've tried.
Welp
I have nothing else to say
Pretty good job so far?
Yes, indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYg2gluP6fY0 -
A few weeks before rank reset I sent in a ticket to support asking them to derank me a few ranks because I had five games in a row against Survivors who were too skilled and powerful for me to stand a chance. This was when I hit Rank 8-7.
While they ran their metas, I was lacking the perks I needed to beat them. I had no Bamboozle to close loops, no Enduring for stuns, no BBQ for detecting them, etc.
I was going against Survivors who played too well for me to have a chance at winning, who also had excellent perk setups and metas, while I was without what I needed to stand a chance.
The support ticket was closed after their response, being that they ‘cannot edit your Killer/Survivor rank’.
I guess it is understandable though. I wouldn’t be surprised if toxic players and bullies expected to abuse this.
I didn’t touch Killer until Rank-reset, just went over to my Rank 14 Survivor for the next week and a half.
Look, if we were allowed to drop ranks, BHVR might as well remove the ranking system completely because that’ll be the end result.0 -
@sergantuss I think you meant to say: ", Add a casual mode."0
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@Judgement said:
A few weeks before rank reset I sent in a ticket to support asking them to derank me a few ranks because I had five games in a row against Survivors who were too skilled and powerful for me to stand a chance. This was when I hit Rank 8-7.
While they ran their metas, I was lacking the perks I needed to beat them. I had no Bamboozle to close loops, no Enduring for stuns, no BBQ for detecting them, etc.
I was going against Survivors who played too well for me to have a chance at winning, who also had excellent perk setups and metas, while I was without what I needed to stand a chance.The support ticket was closed after their response, being that they ‘cannot edit your Killer/Survivor rank’.
I guess it is understandable though. I wouldn’t be surprised if toxic players and bullies expected to abuse this.
I didn’t touch Killer until Rank-reset, just went over to my Rank 14 Survivor for the next week and a half.Look, if we were allowed to drop ranks, BHVR might as well remove the ranking system completely because that’ll be the end result.
The support tickets always "closed and solved" in about 24 hours but nobody ever fixes anything. I confronted support desk about it, they obviously didn't bother to explain why tickets get marked as solved while the same issues are still there after so long, but told me to be patient instead lol. I don't even see a point in writing tickets since no one in BHVR even gives a bad word
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@sergantuss and all the others trying to derank: really people? That makes you happy? Playing against people less skilled than you and get your easy victory? So cheap.1
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Surely it'd make more sense if they made an unranked mode..
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@Jack11803 said:
That defies the whole purpose they put rank in the game forwhy y put stuff in green
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@Jonathanskilz said:
@Jack11803 said:
That defies the whole purpose they put rank in the game forwhy y put stuff in green
Because I can
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People are just gonna take advantage of newbies.. not a good idea.1
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@HellDescent said:
Whats the point? The game is completely out of whack as it is. I'm rank 10 and I'm facing reds and purples. They can't even fix the matchmaking.Derank down to 15 and you wont face that many red ranks anymore, yeah matchmakign is a big joke
Believe me I've tried.
Welp
I have nothing else to say
Pretty good job so far?
well in most opinions on this forum its NOT broken at all
ppl care only about new survivors but a killers0 -
@George_Soros said:
@sergantuss and all the others trying to derank: really people? That makes you happy? Playing against people less skilled than you and get your easy victory? So cheap.just like a say before
killers vs low suvivors is bad but the paty of red ranks vs rank 15 killer its normal and not broken
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and casual mode will bever help
its just give more problems since win as surv is easy and win in SWF is totaly easy
survs will stay in ranked and the killers who dont wana stay in 10 mins lobby go in casual and there will be no players at all or super new players who will rage quit frome the game0 -
Sometimes I wish I could play against rank 11-20 survivors if I use no perks or addons.
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The most realistic solution I think would be to grant a slight BP and perhaps pip bonus after a game when you faced much higher ranks than yours.0
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Lol no, enough toxicity is already present.
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Lets make it so it cost 1 million blodpoints to de rank
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