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Y'all really have 0 brain abt campers
"Just don't feed them uwu"
"If u all let 1 person draw out getting camped, u can genrush them. uwu"
"They won't get to rank up, just get them out of ur rank. uwu"
That entire concept is NONSENSE. Campers can play to rank up and then camp in any rank they want and just balance it out by playing one way in one game and another in a different one. I have played two games today, got camped both games, these are the ranks.
"Just don't let them rank up. uwu"
They literally do not care about ranking up, they are TROLLS. Genrushing and only letting one person die really doesn't matter because at the end of the day, all they care about is ruining the match for at least one person. Like it's already mission accomplished for these people.
It's really on the Dev's at this point to do something about it.
and inb4 "DefFiNe CAMpInG BECAUSE SURvIVOR S JuST CrY WheN--" I am talking about face camping. First one was a Leatherface, second was a Plague. In both these matches, I and a teammate were face camped, and it's been happening at ALL ranks, all the time.
Also inb4 "SuRvivoRS FlAshLIght mE AnD HavE X PerK ThAt BoOlY ThEN TBaG" Like yeah, playing killer sucks too, this thread isn't about that.
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Too bad, its something that works and people just wanna play the game their way. Sometimes the answer is as simple as " Why shouldnt I?" People have their own reasons
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I don't know what to tell you. The counter to camping is finish the gens and gtfo. Does it make for a boring ass game? Yes. And likely everyone will either depip or safety at best. But your only alternative is feeding the camper.
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Y'all acting like this does anything to help, though, and it doesn't.
I'm sayin something has to be implemented to deter camping. Feeding or not feeding the camper doesn't matter at this point because one or the other doesn't stop them.
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If the concern is that they can rank up "anyway" by not camping in other games...then I fail to see what the problem is here...you punish them in the games they camp, this forces them to play without camping in more games to retain their rank, which means they play fewer games where they camp. Keep that going long enough and they may just get tired of losing every game they camp. Positive reinforcement from playing normally and negative reinforcement from camping both contribute to this change in mentality.
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They gave killer Bbq to encourage them to leave the hook. They removed literal face camping. They added emblem penalties for ccamping. They can't do anything else. Regardless of what they add campers are gunna camp. Nothing will stop them from doing it.
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What I am saying is that it's not about rank, though. They can get to whatever rank they want, and then camp when they feel like it because it's really a troll move. The first killer is rank 2 camping and he can camp like, what? 15 more games and still stay a red rank at the end of the day. That's 15 potential games ruined for people he gets matched with.
That's assuming he depips every match, too.
Not that I think they care at all about it, I think red-ranks who camp do so because they like to camp red-rank survivors specifically.
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those are certainly some numbers on top of the others... yeah...that means face camping.
but seriously... there's no need to post those ranks... we are not seeing the game, they add nothing.
now, against bubba there isn't much you can do unless he ######### up. or you are super coordinated with the rest of the team.
against plague... just heal and get the person of the hook? with 2 people taking hits you don't even trade places. BT and DS should work normally aswell, if you have them.
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What do you think the devs could implement to deter people from camping?
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Right now it doesn't have to do with camping red ranks. If you want to camp red ranks as killer you can also do it rank 12. That is because matchmaking doesn't even work so even if you are rank 1 you still get teammates/Killers from rank 13 or even rank 18.
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I saw someone suggest something that I thought was pretty good before, which was the Devs make it so gens repair speed is increased while a killer is within 5 to 10 feet of the hooked survivor and/or give the survivors double BP for as long as the killer is facecamping.
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Run deliverance, Ds, unbreakable, soul guard if it happens as much as you say
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Facecamping has been eliminated.
You can pull off the hook from either side now The body block does nothing.
Regular camping
If you really want the save use BT and trade or let him slug you and crawl away and heal.
You either save them, trade yourself or provide and opportunity for your 3rd to save both of you
Proxy camping / patrol
The killer can't find anyone but knows someone will come for the save. Why? Because noone has failed a skillcheck since 2017 and we can't count on the gen explosion to have map knowledge. Bait them into a chase or force them into regular camping.
Why camp at all ?
Because some killers make the choice that since gens fly they can't risk extra chases when people have 12 chase extending perks. They just don't have the time.
So unless you for sure know you can find and down someone in LESS then 40 seconds. Its tactically better to wait until the hook state passes at least once.
How you guys find any of that toxic or whinge about it just tells me you've never played killer.
Its basic strat and it doesn't even lead to victory because the devs punish it but if you ever want people to stop doing you have to give them a clear INCENTIVE to choose better. Like bbq gives them bp and a big glowing sign in the distance that encourages them to leave... yeah that should be basekit.
And there should be at least 4 killer perks like bbq that all reward leaving the hook and reward hooking different survivors not just the same over and over.
Alotta people forget that the killer is a player... you cant punish him for everything and expect him to still have fun playing. Reward players and they will make fun choices instead.
If you spank a child too much... well that's how we got Mike mires I guess lol
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I've literally for years now, have suggested giving the Killer Camper a animation Headache Visual Blinding as if being flashlighted, for camping a certain meters proximity with a hooked survivor they recently hooked. If they have a survivor scream animation for healing perk for PH. Why not animate a Killer Camper the same. Blinding them as a penalty for face camping. Seems no one is favor of that idea instead rather whine about it all day every day
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Mechanics based on punishing the killer due to proximity to the hook have proven to be highly abusable by survivors. Rush gens when killers camp instead of feeding and they'll stop doing it once they realize it no longer works.
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Hmmm. I do say these things. I don't follow them up with an uwu but maybe I should
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Survivors abuse killers anymore anyways. They're nowhere afraid of being killed because the Dev gave them abusive perks. I just recently gone through a game where I smack them several times because they all just come at me. And all them stay in the wounded state even after smacking them past 4 hits. They perks are all bs anymore
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What are they going to implement that does punish killers who don’t camp though?
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So, two people get to stick to gens and pop them if the third survivor decides to run the killer around the hook. There would have to be more parameters other than just distance.
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They tried implementing anti camping measures. Survivors abused the hell out of it to the point it literally forced facecamping sooooooo. Blame survivor mains for the current state
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It's a legit strategy that works more often than not. Deal with it or play something else.
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I've yet to hear a "solution" for face camping that I wasnt instantly able to see a glaring exploitable method to make hooked survivors safe zones
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and you have 0 brain abt grammar
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I get camping isn't fun to play against but i mean neither is being looped into oblivion or being flashlighted at every single pallet and teabagged constantly. This, like camping doesn't happen every game but it does happen. What are they going to do about the survivors acting this way? Sure you're gonna say "but survivors aren't supposed to want to die!" but it can also go in the killers wants to kill and camping, whether you like it or not is 90% of the time a pretty efficient way to kill 1-2 survivors a match.
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