Legion buffs next?

Please no. Legion is irritating as hell to play against at the moment, and not because of strength. Free deep wounds is just not fun. Making them stronger would just make them get picked more, which would make me sad. They just need a rework.

Omg please

I honestly hate deep wounds. It is a minor inconvenience to Survivors as not only does it take like 2 seconds to mend yourself (that's an exaggeration but you get the point) and the timer pauses when they're mending or within your terror radius.

Not to mention even if you aren't in their terror radius it's stupid long so you can basically ignore it. It poses no real threat.

Even without add ons I think it's something like a 12 second mend. You can delay mending by sprinting, but until you mend your screen is dark to the point where it's actually a big disadvantage in a chase.

Other killers will approach, you'll hear the TR, and you'll start a chase from full health. They need to hit you twice as you're looping. Legion will sprint up, get a free hit, then get borderline free hits on anyone else close. The last person in the area will take their Frenzy hit, and then Legion will cancel their power and start to chase them. So, at the point where a chase really starts, you're already injured, your screen is dark and discolored from deep wounds, and you probably have a teammate or two that are now injured and that need to waste time to mend.

The time wasting from deep wounds can be significant on their own, since DBD is a game of seconds, but the main benefits of Frenzy are getting to injure multiple people basically for free and then handicap them in a chase with deep wounds VFX. If they heal, that's another huge waste of time you can instantly undo. If they don't, they're going to be one shot in every chase, they're going to be vulnerable to Thanat, etc.

So, yes, free deep wounds is actually very useful. Legion's not top tier, but they're still pretty average strength.

The thing is that Legion is nowhere near as weak as people are making them out to be.

I don't see them getting buffed soon. Sure agains the 10.000 combined hour depip squad they stand little chance. But as a whole they really aren't that bad.

I don't know why they don't just rework Legion's ability. People seem to really hate it...

I know the thematic reasons why their ability works like it does, but it'll be hard to adequately balance an ability that can simultaneously hit all 4 survivors.

The best thing I've come up with (off the top of my head) is to remove the damage and deep wounds from the ability, and replace it with hemorrhage and exposed.

Now I can already hear the survivors freaking out. Just hear me out!

If we swapped it to a short-timer version of expose and hemorrhage, but removed the actual damage, that would give a Legion player the ability to tag the entire team, but there's absolutely no way they could burst and kill them all at once, unless the survivors played incredibly recklessly. Instead, it would likely result in a single down, and it would give Legion a head-start on tracking their next target.

The playstyle would instead look like this:

• Spot survivor(s) and pop feral frenzy
• Sprint and tag them
• Decide to either end the ability and go for a down, or try to tag others and try to down one of them instead
• After downing a survivor, decide to either hook, or track one of the others (if tagged).

I'd love to hear feedback on this idea. If it's stupid, feel free to tell me how you'd change it. If you think there are things I haven't considered? I'd love to hear it! This was just an idea I came up with on the spot, and thought it could work. But I admit I haven't thought about it at length, so I'm sure there are flaws...

It makes my heart grow in size seeing all these Legion players. We did not deserve our fate.

It may take years, but one day we will stand on the hill in the fog, buffed, and strong in the moonlight near the shack.

Big Pink Bunny hugs to all Legions, we are many.

No lol.

Clown is the worst killer in the game.

We should not only think on what is necessary.

If we just take what is necessary, then would a faster m1 killer without any abilities enough for 60%+ of the matches.

Would the people enjoy playing such a game?

Maybe for a few weeks, or months, but let us be honest - it would start to be quiet boring really fast. Especially since DBD only comes with 1 game mode.

That's why killers need more as a m1 attack - to make more fun for the killer players and to challenge survivors on more ways, so that they also can have more fun.

Sometimes also because it is against every logic. A knife is most of the time a short, light and sharp weapon...

Can you tell me why we can't stab someone multiple times from a realistic point of view?

The answer is: No you can't, like every other logic thinking person :).

But the thing is. This is a game. Hell, Legion would be the least of any worries if realism was involved. One single whack from Trapper to the back of the head with his machete would already instantly kill these survivors. Billy/Cannibal even faster and way more gruesome because of a Chainsaw rips and shreds through flesh.

It's the fun of the hunt that this game is about. For killers anyways.

I'm not ever going to claim being the voice of the people (with murderous intent) but for me, Legion is as deadly as it gets without needing to go feral. Feral Frenzy all it does is give Legion a pain (where, I won't say) just for wanting to continually stab everyone. Legion wants to repeatedly stab. (lore wise) Legion isn't allowed. Because it's the thrill of hunting that is the point of these trials. That and it's just a game. That's Why....

Hell reasons I like Legion is simple. Reminds me of back in the day a game called Manhunt by Rockstar.

more than buff or rework legion need some little tweaks(like reducing the fatigue cooldown to 3.5 would be awesome) and a some reworks in his addons(IDK like making a addon that completly remove the sound. while vaulting a pallet/window would so more useful and fun to use ..than the current detection addons) or vaul speed addons , i love using vault speed legion build but its rlly anoying having to waste 2 perks slots just to vault more faster while in FF...) 

I have my problems with taking Streamers as an example for a topic like this.

Some of them are good to learn from them. Some are entertaining, but they are usually not the ordinary gamer.

They put usually a lot more time in the game as the most of us can or like to do.

TL:DR They can't be seen as the usually player.

If Legion had a good buff, he would actually be a great killer. A good Legion can hide their red circle and can appear as a survivor at a distance. I enjoy playing as Legion at times and I once caused 2 people to DC quickly cause they underestimated him as Legion is considered bottom tier. I'd rather his frenzy be scrapped and he be given throwing knives since Huntress has her Hatchets. Legion's perks are also fairly weak as another problem. His rare perk is the ability to open closets faster than others. If he had knives, this perk wouldn't be as useless since he would have to visit them frequently for more knives.

I agree with you. He's not terrible and he would be a more played killer if he had buffs. Better perks, knife throwing abilities, etc. I feel he was missed potential from his backstory to his build. He is bottom tier with Clown cause it seems more effort was put into other killers and this is noticable.

What he said is definitely accurate, but saying they're worse than clown is laughable.

Never said they were worse than Clown.

But they are definitely in the bottom three.

Legion is mostly fine, i'd like to see some kind of buff to hitting multiple survivors, like, for each survivor hit in killer instinct it reduces the cooldown fatigue you get when you cancel the power. That way if you hit all 4 of them you can be rewarded heavily for doing it. it would give their power a use when survivors never heal which keeps them from just being an m1 killer with a 1hit down.