Ok so , Am i a tunneler in this situation?
I was playing Hag on Primary School. Hooked a Laurie , placed about 3 traps in choke points to defend the hook then i went off to do other hag things. 5 seconds or so later, Laurie got unhooked and 5 more seconds later she tripped one of my traps. I immediately TP-ed, slapped her and picked her up but was DS-ed.
End game chat, they called me a camping tunneler that forced them to use DS.
Was i a camping tunneler in that situation?
So i stayed a bit after the hook to place traps in the area but i didn't face camp. And after i placed them i moved on.
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No. Sounds to me like it’s her own fault. She should’ve known better than to run after getting off the hook. It’s a surefire way to screw yourself over against a Hag.
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Yeah, no, you didn't choose for her to be the one who triggered the trap. It's only tunneling if you intentionally go for them.
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You didn't forced them to used DS. They used it by doing a skill check to escaped. Beside why did she run on traps????
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No. Tunneling refers to tunnel vision. You're tunneling if your only goal in a game is to kill one specific survivor and you actively and intentionally throw the game in order to achieve that goal. If you kill one survivor quickly either by chance or in order to get a power spike and snowball into a 3k or 4k, anyone who calls you a tunneler uses the word incorrectly.
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Nope. Picking up Lauries after being unhooked was a bad idea though since DS is her teachable.
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No that's not tunneling. She triggered the trap, you tped and downed her and picked her up. You weren't intentionally targeting her.
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Imo, one single action in a match hardly makes someone a tunneler. When I play killer, I don't go after those who got unhooked to give them a chance to get away. When they walk into me repeatedly however, I hit them - what else should I do, ignore their existence til the endgame? It's the survivor's responsibility to play safe and be careful. In your situation, you couldn't even know who activated your trap. Every killer would have ported there. If they decide not to crouch, it's their responsibility. If you would've ported there and not hit anyone only to be "nice", you would've waisted your own ressources. If you would've ported, down her but not hook her to not eat the DS, they would have called you a slugging camper.
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Yes of course. You were playing killer. That automatically makes you a sweaty tunneling and camping try-hard.
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Eh, this is just Hag's design in a nutshell tbh. You can't really afford to go out of your way to not "tunnel" or intentionally chase after someone who's healthy unless you've got nothing else to do so you're kinda stuck in that situation where going after the injured survivor is the only way you're gonna get anything done.
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Not in the slightest, and even if your were, you should not be forced to follow a playstyle that survivors want. It applies the other way around too.
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There's only one person who can truly answer your question. Someone who has studied the dark art of tunnelling for years, maybe even centuries. I hesitate to summon them, for their cruel judgement has caused even the most hardened killers to completely take leave of their senses. But although it pains me to say it, I feel it cannot be avoided.
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Honestly, if there was ever a killer who could inadvertently "tunnel" someone, it's Hag. Her defensive and map controlling specialties just make her really good at creating situations where she seems like she's tunneling someone even when it's not intentional.
As others have pointed out, you simply teleported to a trap and downed the survivor who triggered it. This just happened to be Laurie and you weren't specifically going after her off hook, so not tunneling.
However, from her point of view you did attempt to tunnel her (even if she put herself in that situation). She triggered your trap by accident, got downed again, and was immediately picked up by you. That pretty cleanly fits into what survivors usually mean when crying "tunneler" at people.
Did you tunnel? Did you not tunnel? Just depends on which side you ask and how they choose to define it. Frankly, the most sportsmanlike option in that scenario would have probably been to just slug Laurie once you realized she was fresh off-hook and let her get picked up later by her team. But I can't say how well one side or the other was doing at this point in your match, which could have affected how justified (or unjustified) you may have been in trying to get her immediately back on hook. Heck, there could have been multiple injured Laurie's where you had no way to know this was the same one from the hook.
It's a grey area and probably just some classic survivor salt.
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Yes.
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I only play survivor right now and I vote: No, that was not.
I had a game last night that sounds just like this. Killer was lambasted in chat after the game. He was fine. To me, they were in the wrong. 9I can kinda see how they might view it that was but it's stretching really.)
I had Kindred on during that game and could clearly see the entire thing; the killer was not far enough away when they chose to unhook her. Not the killers fault that one of then got caught in a trap near right after.
Facecamping to me is not moving away from the area to purposely not allow other survivors a chance at a rescue. (However I don't consider it Toxic, it's part of game play, I consider it bad manors, makes the game not fun imho and mean but not wrong.)
Tunneling to me is when you pick on the same survivor over and over - chasing them relentlessly until you catch them and rinse and repat the second they are unhooked. I don't consider this toxic either (see above)
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