"Killers with no counter-play"

youre acting like feathering doesnt exist LOL.

Lmao, you missed Spirit, but I guess her "counterplay" is just guess correctly or hope to God you have Iron Will.

Just wanted to correct something. With Plague, if all the pools get used, they DO become normal cleansing pools again...but the Plague also immediately gets corrupt purge. You said she doesnt get ANYTHING, which is false.

One thing, you missed Spirit. Her counterplay is iron will. And it sucks that you need a perk for her, but atleast it's not a bad perk like calm spirit which is only good against doctor

Look, I survivor main, and any killer played well is hard to beat, and they should be! So many survivors whine about how unbalanced the game is, but here's the thing, the killer is one and the survivors are four. The killer should be powerful, like really powerful, because all supernatural killers are really powerful and this is a horror game. Enjoy the play, accept your losses, and understand this game would be alot less fun if the killers were weak.

You see that is something that irritates me a lot. If some survivors feel that a killer can't be countered in a way that they're normally comfortable with they say the killer is broken and ask for a nerf. And I SPECIFICALLY remember a post like that when Pyramid Head was still on the PTB. They couldn't loop him from pallets or anything and they asked for a nerf to change his ranged attack. Please try a different play style than what you're used to. As a part-time on both sides here's a tip: If spine chill stays lit up with any killer in general then that's your call to leave and hide somewhere else and stay stealthy yourself

(Please notice the use of the word, "Some" because I'm not saying all survivors are like that)

Play super cautious against her when not injured so you don’t get injured, like you would against Oni. Becoming injured is basically feeding her free info so play safe and not greedy.

If she phases when she’s chasing you in the open (you can tell she’s doing this because she’ll be following you and then stop in her tracks, or stop following you just out of LoS), start walking in an unpredictable direction or double back over your own scratch marks. Don’t just run in a straight line/beeline to a pallet.

If she may or may not be phasing when you’ve just dropped a pallet, don’t vault the pallet back towards her or walk back towards her side of the loop. Start to walk away from the loop to another nearby pallet/window while keeping her in your field of view. If she was faking she’ll start to come after you and you can run, if she wasn’t faking she’ll have to guess where you went.

Split up and pressure gens. Don’t play injured; if you get hurt, heal. That said NEVER heal under the hook because she can phase back and down you again. Walk (don’t run) away when unhooked and go heal somewhere with safety.

If you’re in her terror radius you won’t hear her phasing so don’t do totems, heals or gens in her terror radius, she’ll hear you and grab/attack you. If you’re outside of her terror radius you’ll hear her phasing towards you so just move away.

Avoid running through grass when she’s phasing and try to avoid crows as both of these will give you away.

Windows in long walls are especially good against her as she can’t fake her phase and watch what you do, she has to vault (you can see it), phase after you (you can throw her off) or chase you around normally (she’s 110%). In fact breaking LoS is useful against her in general, try to break LoS and then don’t just run in a predictable loop.

These are some of the things I bear in mind when facing the uncounterable Spirit, hope it helps!

Spirit is the only killer I would argue, that if your good enough with, has practically no counter play.

Even Nurse as a relatively simple, yet very effective counter play, that can waste a lot of time.

Things like this, is why people dislike Spirit. And probably want to see her nerfed, since the DEVs did just nerf a balanced character with a fair bit of counter play for no reason.

Logically, Spirit would get nerfed right?

Yeah, the hypocrisy I'm seeing here is pretty great. Especially the BHVR-esque laundry list of 'got this killer? try these easy steps for guaranteed success!' that doesn't even scratch the surface of some of the legitimate concerns people have and doesn't even take into consideration ANY nuances such as, but not limited to 'just get in a locker with doctor' who might have iron maiden or a spirit with stridor (although I've learned a stupid, yet fun trick with spirit).

Not that this particular example is that big of an issue, but the point is that even the same killer played by different people can be a completely different experience which the post doesn't even consider. It's just a blanket statement that acts like every game against x killer will be the same thing, different lobby, which is insulting to both the survivors and killer in play.

It's okay for people to make unrealistic lists acting like saying 'your counter is to not get caught/use pallets duh' is fool proof information, but how dare you insinuate countering DS is easier than it's ever been. Nobody seems to remember how bad it used to be.

Anybody who gives an iota of a damn about this game doesn't want killers to be mind numbingly easy to go against as their argument always suggests, otherwise why play at all? That doesn't mean every match you have against x killer should feel damn near impossible.

With the DC ban system down, almost EVERY time I see Freddy all three of my teammates leave. I'm blessed if no one leaves a Freddy game. If that isn't telling you something I don't know what is. That's not to say I want him to go back to how he was, just that in most games he's pretty oppressive. 'Oh boy, another Freddy that probably has pop.'

I think everyone is pretty sad about the Billy change because it wasn't needed nor asked for.

I don't agree on this because people use ds most of the time because they know they are safe at times I've had survivors run up to me with ds to save someone I was chasing which is weird because I continued chasing the other person. People just feel safe when using it and tend to play dumb imo. I try not to tunnel or w.e. but survivors just beg to get chased is what I'm saying and even if I wasn't tunneling that person they still have ds🤔 idk this is weird to me.

Running spine chill really helps. I was playing against a spirit (same person each time because of their play style and cosmetic) and got absolutely demolished by them (4k with three gens left) every time I played against them. Then I ran spine chill. She got a 1k by the time we finished all the gens. I unlocked a gate but then got downed with noed and face camped (first hook too). Spine chill made all the difference in the world against her.