Tombstone Piece needs a nerf or removed
Just ran into two Myers using this add-on and they instantly 4k'd our group because of it.
A fist-sized granite piece taken from a broken tombstone.
- Kill healthy or injured Survivors with Evil Within III
- .
- Disables the ability to Stalk with Evil Within III.
- Considerably drains the Power Gauge after killing a Survivor.
- Considerably increases the amount of Evil required to reach Evil Within III for the first time.
What in world are the Devs thinking giving a Killer the ability to instantly KILL a healthy survivor. This wasn't even like the Myers was slugging or even trying to hit people. He just got close enough to start the Kill animation and Killed full health players immediately.
Why is this in the game? What kind of Mori bs is this? Wew mfw I just got insta killed at full health, no hooks, while mid sprint.
Comments
-
To be fair, he needs to stalk you for a while to active EW3 and even then, you can loop him or jump into a locker to force a grab instead of a kill. 😊
15 -
i think it fine it hard to pull off don't think it needs a nerf or a nerd lol
2 -
>Just guess Myers is using that add on bro! Jump that locker and take a grab bro!
Stop
4 -
They must upgrade the character without addons and nerf tombstone. That will make the killer more balanced. Most of those who use myers only play it with that addon.
1 -
Imagine nerfing an add-on that is countered by jumping in a locker, vaulting windows, vaulting pallets, and working on a generator
12 -
Try not getting stalked? It takes a long time to use it so you or your teammates are getting stalked way too much
4 -
i main Myers and i don't use tho add on a lot you got to stalk alot even then you may not get the kill.
1 -
You can only Mori 3. Takes 4 full stalks to get 3 mori's because of how much is needed for it and it takes a very long time.
1 -
Yknow. Just jump into a locker or try to force him to M1 you.
You can tell if hes got the Tombstone based on how he holds his hand. Relaxed means he doesnt. If his hand is open, that means he can mori you.
2 -
If it takes him forever to get EW3, minus well assume he has it and besides, you should be able to spare a hook state if he's been a M1 killer for a few generators. 😊
Sorry that my feedback isn't what you wanted to hear, but it a good counter against EW3 Tomstone — you even hear achievement hunters complaining about it! 🙂
6 -
I agree with this. If it takes a while for him to get into EW3 I usually assume he is running a tombstone or has infinite. Either way, you're dead anyway so jumping in a locker doesn't change the outcome. If you have distance run otherwise no harm jumping in a locker to counter. Not like you would survive anyway if he hit you
2 -
Dunno about that. I think Tombstone Piece + J Myers Memorial (For faster stalking) is viable but Judith's Tombstone + Tuft Of Hair (Unlimited EW3 and Unlimited Tombstoning) is a giant novelty that cripples you and isn't worth running outside of the Evil Incarnate achievement or for messing around. (Even if you tombstone all 4, you will depip usually, and the insane stalk requirement and movement speed reduction makes it ineffective for "winning").
Myers is pretty uncommon when I play survivor. I've seen a few tombstone builds but I've seen MUCH more Scratched Mirror + Lery's offering builds.
3 -
You can mori 4. You just have to leave some juice in the first guy you stalk and see him later.
0 -
Oh wow. His counter is letting yourself get hooked. Some PRO advice here guys.
3 -
They “instantly” 4k’d with tombstone? Really? Instantly? Your team fed him some VERY easy stalk if that’s the case and that’s your teams fault. Myers is the last killer who needs a perk rework. Cry about iri head huntress lol
0 -
A good survivor could make a guess based off how long it’s been since he’s hit tier 3. If you’ve been in the game awhile and he hits it you should know he’s using tombstone.
0 -
If it was used in red ranks myers wouldn't be able to hit tier 3. The fact he did was cause y'all fed him the juice.
1 -
Yeah, it's better than getting moried, isn't it?
3 -
Another note is for Judith's Tombstone and Tuft, you need to suck 3 and a half survivors completely dry of stalker juice to hit EW3.
This takes a while depending on distance and if the survivor is trying to avoid feeding you. (People who sit there, teabagging and flashlight clicking the whole time are much easier to drain but it still take a bit of time.)
So not only does Myers need to spend a while stalking, he basically has to find (and stalk) all four survivors. If he stalks 3 but the last survivor remains hidden, he will be unable to reach EW3 with Judith's and Tuft. And this isn't counting scenarios where all 4 survivors are trying to avoid feeding him.
Also consider his movement speed is slowed with Judith's to about 104% according to the wiki. That's slower than Hag. And in EW1 (when the match starts) he's at 94%, slower than a sprinting survivor. (Although the stalk requirement needed to go from Tier 1 to tier 2 is still the same)
So not only does Myers need to try and drain pretty much everyone to get unlimited tombstoning, he's slow as a snail without play with your food, which means Myers now needs to pray he can find the obsession to get PYWF stacks so he can move at a reasonable speed (although he can use Nemesis to try and make a new obsession but that's 2 perk slots already taken up) + any accidental swings will use up a stack he can't get back if the obsession is dead. (Although once again, Nemesis)
Not only is all this going on, but during the time he's draining survivors, survivors will usually be on generators and Myers typically won't bother hitting anyone because he's trying to stalk them to hit EW3, which means generators are practically completely uncontested as Myers roams around staring at everyone.
Once he FINALLY hits EW3 (usually gens are pretty much done by this point, especially since the reworked Dying Light and Ruin are no longer good slowdown perks for this build) the tombstone can be avoided by hopping in lockers because Myers can't even Mori you unless you're standing perfectly straight. If you're on a gen, he can't mori you, only grab you, and since he can't tombstone you on the ground either all he can do is hook you or try to carry you away, pick up and drop you to make you auto-wiggle, and then chase you and pray he can catch up to tombstone you before you reach the locker.
He'll also score very low since he won't be hitting or hooking people usually, and he'll likely depip too even with a 4K!
If anything, in my opinion Judith's at least needs a buff. The movement speed reduction and insane stalk requirement should at least let you tombstone people on the ground or in lockers. Nerf it to compensate by removing his ability to lunge entirely in EW3 (so he can't use the long EW3 lunge to instadown you in a loop, then mori you on the ground.).
I definitely think Tombstone Piece might need to be looked at but I can't get mad at Judith's + Tuft because the Myers player is putting so much on the line by running the build. It's a high-risk build (Often survivors can do gens and leave before Myers even hits EW3 because he couldn't get enough stalker juice) and the reward for doing it is pretty lackluster. (Insta-moriing survivors with Tombstone is cathartic, but in the end you're depipping usually and even if you pop EW3 early survivors can still counter it via lockers)
2 -
4 -
It's so easy to tell. It's how he holds his hand.
0 -
If you let yourself get moried you can lose faster.
0 -
That too lmao
1 -
Ikr? Like just hop in a locker or run a loop impossible to get that close on.
0 -
That moment when you haven't been chased all game, and Myers pops tier 3 on you and insta-kills you. Solo queue life.
0 -
Uh, it's balanced by the fact that he has to stalk you for a while.
I don't want to say it was on you guys for feeding Mikey, but that's not the most practical of Mike's addons.
0 -
@whammigobambam Once you mori someone, you lose the amount needed for 4 mori's with Tombstone. It's impossible. The max is 3. To get all 4, you need Tuft Of Hair AND Judith's Tombstone together to get the Evil Within Achievement. Tombstone Piece will not allow you to kill all 4.
0 -
I guess
0 -
If you managed to pull off an infinite tier 3 Myers with a tombstone, the problem is nor the killer or the add on combo, it's your party, it's literally the hardest addons to work with.
2 -
Takes almost a full 60s of stalking to gain EW 3 with this add-on and the survivor can just hop into a locker to negate your ability to kill them. You can literally waste the killers time stalking (and limited amount of stalk too) then hop in a locker and waste both his time and stalk duration.
This is one of his worst add-ons and only works on new or inexperienced players.
0 -
It's fine. It takes ages to get the stalk for it. Stop whinjng and accept your loss.
0 -
I mean if it takes him 10 mins to hit EW3 or he stays in EW3 and you dont play around that, it's on you. It's called situational awareness.
0 -
When myers has a tombstone add on his other hand without the knife is not in a fist. Also pay attention to how long it's taking him to get to tier 3
1 -
Imagine a world where this needs a nerf. Not because the survivors were bad enough to feed him, but because the addon is broken.
0
