I think I've mostly figured out what makes survivors powerful

Obviously the exhaustion Nerf or the being able to heal during killer attack cool down Nerf. Killer sided Devs yeesh

LOL. You're clearly another whiny killer main so I don't see the point.

Nearly every survivor item has been nerfed into the ground. None of those were exploits. They were standard kit until people cried that they couldn't get enough kills.

Maps have been reworked in killer's favor. Say what you want about god loops and whether they were exploits, they were nerfed in the killer's favor.

Add to that the constant buffing of killers and killers with 4000 abilities (or otherwise OP) because some rank 19 killer cries that he can't get a 4K.

Doctor now has base kit that allows him to be anti-loop and anti-stealth as BASE KIT! That's not even with addons.

The list goes on. Don't bother replying. I know you don't see it that way, so go lose another match as killer and blame it on imaginary gen rush or something.

I don't care what you think. This forum and reddit are dominated by a minority of killers who suck so bad that they want constant nerfs for survivors and buffs for killers. Because of that, BHVR is listening and acting on it (such as reversing the needed Billy nerfs). Say what you want about it, but it will eventually kill this game. You need 4 times as many survivor players as you do killers. The constant whine of these killer mains will doom us because BHVR is clearly listening and acting on it.

the thing that nakes Survivors strong imo is, that they are the ones dictating the games length.

they have very little pressure on them individualy, they decide how long the killer has before the gates are powered and they dont need to race against the clock.

combine that with tons of second chances and you got yourself a very relaxed experienced when compared to the stress you have when playing killer, which results mostly out of that race against the clock.

that fact of NOT standing under pressure at all times allows them to make decision a lot more coolheaded than the killer, aswell as their actions being a lot less punished and them having a team to fall back on that will push the objective they they wont makes them strong.

at least thats my opinion on it.

Solo survivor is still survivor sided, if the survivors have basic game knowledge and aren’t trying to lose. If a group of 4 solo survivors commit to doing gens and not grouping up unnecessarily they will escape far more often than they die. I say this as someone who plays survivor solo 100% of the time these days.

The reason solo sucks is because solo teammates are more likely to troll, mess around, farm each other, disconnect or throw the match. But if you get four solos who play even a little bit seriously it’s easy to escape most of the time.

It's obvious. Do you see any killer nerfs that stick lately? No (Billy). Do you see killer buffs that do? Yes (Bubba).

Have you seen any survivor buffs recently? No. It's map nerfs. It's item nerfs. Etc.

There are more killer buffs coming with perk changes like Franklin's.

I don't need data. Look at all of the recent changes. It's buff killers, nerf survivors, day in and day out. When that reverses course, I'll change my mind. Until then, BHVR is clearly favoring killers due to the constant whining.

Mori's arent billy only killer offerings. Besides no ones arguing moris are balanced most killers worth there salt agree its op although you are likely not piping in high ranks if you use one.

Billy is very balanced at base quite weak but with insta saw is busted. Crack billy is imo pretty reasonable but other tend to disagree. Add on wise billy is too strong but minor tweaks could fix that in a heart beat. Nerfing base billy is disgraceful. But hey ypu want more spirit be my guest. People arent happy with most mid tier killers for a large number of reasons billy was without a doubht the most balance high tier killer.

LOL. You clearly see the game as survivor-sided. Keep thinking that and driving the players away.

Second chance perks are nothing. You can counter all of them.

There is no such thing as gen rushing. That's the game's objective for survivors. If you don't pressure enough, too bad.

And maps have tons of dead zones to go with those supposedly super safe pallets (which I rarely see).

I guess you have never been taken to Ormond by a 3-4 man squad of object using survivors on comms. That's fine, I was new to the game once as well.

DBD has always been survivor sided. It's just that it's gone from the days of 1v1ing any killer that wasn't the nurse by running balanced landing infinites and god windows to a more reasonable level recently. If you can't identify safe pallets then you are probably not very good at looping, which is why you think the game is killer sided I assume.

lol how is it NOT survivor sided? Survivors came out of the box GODLIKE since release and they're still strong today. They're the majority of their playerbase, so why would you think survivors aren't in the minds of the devs at all times?

On paper it has always sounded like a fun idea but in practice it would ruin diversity and instead of meta perks it creates a survivor meta as people will always flock to the ones which they feel give the best bonus.

wrong the only op on survivor are the survive with friends thats it.

ROFL The devs? The Dbd devs? Killer-sided? 🤣They strip away and gut killer powers notoriously. Anything overly killer sided is fixed within days(Release Freddy). Anything overly survivor sided is fixed in weeks, months, if that (WAKE UP). Survivors are still strong as ever. The only difference is they removed some double pallet areas, nerfed MoM and BT, starting to ease the burden of god loops and adding breakable walls in hopes killers stop quitting the game. Survivor gameplay hasn't changed since release with the exception of totems and that's only if they feel like doing them.

I've been playing since the game's release 😂But continue with your incorrect assumptions, I don't care.

If you played killer more you would see where a lot of these people are coming from. You've only seen the game from one side so it isn't allowing for clear objectivity. They're just wanting you to experience both sides to understand their view points is all.

For me, it's the difference of perspective. Killers see things first person, survivors see 3rd person. Having played games like outlast, survivors having first person is doable with a look behind button, square seems nice.

Wait what I don't seem to understand what you mean.

well i do think the nea ballance landing was miss nerfed since it was most a problem on specifc maps so they should have just removed the inifitys from the maps but i didnt really used the perk even before so wathever, now the lightborn perk makes flashlights totally useless, that is something that i think went to far, its not eazy to make a flash save and the killer can avoid that already looking at walls etc, now the perk punish the survivor for picking a item, i think if they wanted to buff the perk make it that you dont drop the survivor but still get blinded at least or that you do drop the survivor but your vision isnt affected, anyway every thing i said will be answered with a "git gud" or something so whats the point

i agree base billy wasnt op in fact i liked playing against it, its one of those killers in my opinion that takes skill to master so i dont see the problem in a skillfull killer be strong, but the addons really mess up the game and lets not gonna lie, its not hard to gather addons, they justify their overpower with "oh its not every time you have this addon", well it was not every time you had instablind or instaheal bout they were still broken werent they?

also goddam mori man thats bullshit remove that thing

one of the things that kinda pissme off its that they see the broken survivors items and addons and then they get nerfed (for a good reason), but they dont see or dont think killers have op addons or offerings