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Gen rush is fine
As main huntress, i can easily say gen rush is pretty possible to counter.
Easy ways:
1. Perks
If you think survivors are doing to many gens, leave slown gens progess perks, with you cant handle swf gen rushers try that
2. Have a brain
If you have a common sense of the game you now that, tracking a survivor, finding a survivor, hitting him, down him, hooking him and still expecting no gen progess is pretty ignorant, and doing that consistently without breaks will not help you win the game, go for the slugs!
3. Aplie pressure
Some examples:i have downed one survivor and they do 2 GENERATORS, i put this survivor on the hook find someone, i sluged this person, get back to the hook to pressure the 2 phase hook, they save in my front, i sluged her and go for the rescuer, at this point i alredy got a lot of pressure, and i do that in the hole match... you now what hapenned? 4k 2 gens,
4. Dont tunnel only one survivor
if you getting gen rushed try to go for the risk plays, even with it cust the game, getting 3 kills is more satisfaying than getting 1 kill and 3 tbags at the exit gates followed by salty end games chats
5. If you think this game is survivor sided, i can secure you're doing mistakes, i am literaly main killer and im saying that to counter gen rush you need: gameplay understading
6. This game ins't balanced
Dont play LeatherFace on lampkin lane against a swf and expects to get a great game
7. You're a killer, you are supost to kill people
Dont be scared of ds, if they have, just make them use, so they will not have it late game, if you need to camp... camp.
Dont play the way they want, the only thing i will not recommed is to tunnel
Resume: have game common sense and 5 brain cells
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Nice theory and all but it seems you dont actually have the 5 Brain cells that you want other people to have ... "Gen Rush" has to be one of the most downsyndrom terms you could pull out of your ass at any given point ... because the survivors can NOT genrush you in any way or form ... The Survivors have 1 objective: Doing Gens ... So if the survivors are doing gens ... and you are to braindead to catch one of them in the first 17 min of the game (And yea no ######### gens will fly if you let 3 survs sit there afk being bored on a Gen watching anime while waiting for boring as sound que´s) You played really ######### bad ... Nobody genrushed you because nobody CAN genrush you ... If the Survivors had at least 2 objectives in the game for example: Gens and Licking each others Toes and the survivors decided to COMPLETLY ignore licking each others Toes and ONLY did Gens ... THEN you could say they "Gen rushed" you ... But since there is one 1 Objective in the game ... Nobody can actually "Rush" it ... they either do it ... or they dont ... and if you arent chasing them ... what they supposed to do? go afk? I do understand that you are a rank 20 Nurse main ... i do understand that it frustrates you and you wanna sound like a really good rank 1 Nea main ... So you try to tell others how bad they are for crying about getting "Gen rushed" (And yes they are ...) But it only proves that your knowledge of the game is very limited ... (As is the amount of your brain cells ...)
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To be fair, Huntress is a high tier killer capable of considerable pressure. Good luck doing that kind of thing with Pyramid Head, Deathslinger, or Clown. They have zero pressure
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Stop playing huntress, nurse and spirit and saying that gen rush can be countered. Besides, the speed at which gens can be done is way too fast and there is very little you can do with certain killers.
I play red ranks with mid tier killers and rank 1 survivor. The only way you win with killer is if you play a high tier killer and apply pressure constantly which will not be possible unless you camp and tunnel with mid tier killers
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??????? Can you be 1 percent respectfull?
Did you understand i was talking that gen rush is something that pretty much dont exist with you play correctly??, did you even read THE ONLY THING SAY??, whats the point????
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Im not saying that this is only possible with powerfull killers, with you play correctly with for example: trappee, plague, demogorgon, hillbily and etc you can still beat """gen rush""" (i doenst even think this exist)
Did you play wraith and expects to not get fast gen progess?
Im talking about mid tier killers to high tier killers, you obvious not gonna win games with bad killers, stop complaining about that
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I agree with ConfusedImouto, there really is no genrush, it is just survivors working on their objective. I also want to slow gen progress while in a match so I run multiple slow down perks and make sure to gen patrol and kick gens whenever possible. But I would never advise people to play super toxic in order to slow progress like OP here did. "I run right back to the hook to tunnel n' slug the freshy and then chase the offhooker", this is not how I will play, it is lazy and cheap and just pisses off the other players. Pressure can easily be applied without being a douche.
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"You're not gonna win games with bad killers"
Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?
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Justfying some things here, Im not saying gen rush exist, i just saying for the people that use the word """gen rush""" to justify gen progess
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I have to applaud you for such a great post.
It is no secret that many players are missing #2. The game isn’t linear in the sense that every instance that happens during a match is mapped out...YOU have to collaborate and do your part too.
Example, when I find the first survivor I think of them as when you buy your first house, it is not going to be your last one, so (depending on the situation) I hit them and leave them.
The “depending on the situation” part could be that I brought Sloppy and they don’t have a med kit, or it could be that they happened to go to a loop that would take more time than I want to chase. Etc etc.
I think many players don’t really understand how much map awareness they lack. Because all they know is find/hit/down and sometimes you have to shake up your playstyle and have it be more like find/hit/leave/hit/kick gen/find/hit ...you now have 3 wounded survivors... and have pressured gens along the way.
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It sounds idiot, and kinda ignorant, i understand that, you can win games with bad killers BUT """"gen rush""""" is pretty common when you playing as leatherface or as wraith, or clow, and you cant say this ins't true, low tiers killers is more likely for you to lose when playin against good survivors
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Doesn't make sense. What do you mean "play correctly?" If you play against good survivors you will realise that holding W and not be greedy with pallets is all you need to win a game. A lot of people don't do that.
Gen rush isn't the proper term though. Comparing how fast you can down a survivor and hook them and then move to a gen to apply pressure with that of how fast gens can go, you will see the difference.
As a survivor I work in pair with another survivor. Went against a spirit who downed a survivor. We were halfway on a gen when he got downed. He picked him up and hooked him and by the time he came to us, we finished the gen and split up. Chase to gen time ratio is drastically skewed towards the survivor's side that it is possible for a survivor or two to not even get into a chase with the killer before he escapes
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..... agree
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If gen rushing is fine, then so is tunneling.
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Im just saying, you can play correctly im not saying you will win, even with you do your best, i never say in my thread that you will win with you do good decisions, some times even playing good, you will lose
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If you belive that, okay??
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Thats the issue isn't it? If I play all my cards right, why should I lose? Doesn't that mean it's out of my control? Doesn't that mean it's dependant on a killer going against bad survivors? Doesn't thet mean it's unbalanced?
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I partially agree with what you say. I wouldn't agree at all if they didn't do the last gen nerf.
I played a bit of Deathslinger during his ptb, and the very 1st game, they got a gen done so fast: 1. I couldn't see them before I got over to them and 2. Not even the game recognized the gen getting done. It still said 5 gens.
Now, with that update, that isnt possible anymore. And with some game knowledge, you can predict the survivors to apply pressure where needed. And some killers have enough pressure in the chase that they can make up their lack of for the gens (spirit, nurse, Freddy, huntress).
Now, im not gonna say that gen-rush exists, but sometimes there just isn't enough pressure to go around.
If you play another killer (ex: legion, clown) who doesn't have good anything, you have to make up for it in perks and luck. Some killers who are good at chase pressure might do terrible if the map sucks (looking at everyone's favorite map, Ormond and Haddonfield). And every killer's favorite thing of accusing: is the group a SWF or not?.
If we had all standard stuff (a standard killer, a standard map, standard survivors, ext.), we could judge if killers can apply enough pressure or not.
But there isn't a standard. Sometimes killers have ample opportunity (example: hag in midwitch or pyramid head in hawkins), but sometimes killers can't (example: nurse in Hawkins, spirit in Haddonfield or almost all killers on ormond). Heck, as some of my listed stuff, even the best killers can have bad maps where pressure is much harder.
Tl;Dr while killers can "just apply pressure lol", there are situations where it is much harder or impossible to apply enough.
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I will give you that, but theres one thing: in some times you cant have control, example: huntress on lerys against a 4 swf man, doenst it sounds every thing was against me in that situation?
At this point we are no talking about gen rush, and yes about unbalanced, i never say this game was balanced, but when we talking about balance, we getting out of the gen rush point
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I agree with most things you say, but i can understand the ignorance in saying: just aplie some pressure, because some times you cant, i give you that.
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And THAT is why genrush is an issue. It should be reasonably simple to win as any killer in the roster, otherwise you get the current stale meta of Spirit, Billy, Oni, and Huntress
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But then we will need to balance every killer, and........
I dont believe devs will do that, the only time they make it and actualy makes the killer strong, was freddy
But freddy just become a boring killer that every monkey can 4k
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I don't know why everybody has so much of an issue with Freddy, he literally has no power if you stay awake
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I guess is more because he can have a lot of pressure, and "pressure" is kinda gay, since the only thing you have to do is put snares on the ground, and is pretty hard to get out of the dreams, since you will enter in the dream every 30 seconds, and self care is very hare this days, basicaly a boring killer
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I never say "just aplie pressure bro"
The only thing i say was to TRY to aply pressure, huntress ins't a S tier killer, and this hint are valid for mid tier killers to high tier killer
If you play was wraith in tompson house against good survivors, you will probably lose the game, im not talking about with your going to win or not, im just saying how to slown gen progress, and just to gime my point here, i dont think gen rush exist, i just say gen rush because people will only understand like that, im not gonna say "faSt GEn pRoGEss"
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Microsleep is 60 seconds, 90 if you grab a clock. His snares do literally nothing if you're awake. If you are unfortunate enough to be asleep in a chase, drop the pallet early and hold w, then wake up ASAP
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Im going to asume you are PoopPosting because this is you first post, and you are also being pretty agressive
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Most matchs have 15 minutes, this means you are going to enter to the dream world 15 times, and dont forget you instantly goes to the dream world when he hits, so yes, you are going to be in the dream when hes chasing you, since is pretty normal getting the first hit when he finds you, you are probaly going to walk through one of his snares or fake pallets, and dont forget he can teleport to gens, go for the cloaks is the worst thing you can do in that situation, because the cloak spawn in the other side of the map, and you lose a lot of time going for the cloak only to wake yourself and you're probaly going to enter in a chase in that time and gets hit and enter in the dream world AGAIN, all this little things make this killer strong, this is why this killer is boring, the only thing that you have to do is chase someone, the pressure will do your job
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That's because killers think that win is 4k. If survs think that win is 4 escape this forum would be full of surv complaining and criying as killers do. What can surv do to win (4 escape)? Or only the killers need to win? The day devs balance this game to 2k (now id 3k at least) I don't know how many killers will get a depression.
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For me, a win is getting a pip. I've hooked 10 survivors in a lot of games and killed 2 of them. No camp. 2 other survivors escaped. I get a brutal killer. Survivors were barely good at looping. They went down back to back and some of them just held w and I had to leave the chase to defend gen. I get punished for that as well.
It doesn't matter how good of a killer you are. If survivors are halfway decent, you lose. Which is why I want the gens to increase gen time so every survivor will have to loop the killer longer which makes the game skill based for both sides. Right now the only side that requires skill is the killer's.
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