Hex Ruin is useless

Hexes are amazing and powerful....just very poorly executed in game.

In your particular case, it would appear as though you were "matched". Which is the purpose of balance. I'm completely speculating here....but with even a couple of survivors using a "band new part", I can see how Hex: Ruin could be countered (Again, part of the balance).

1. Hex: Ruin: 5 % regression on the Generator and Great Skill Checks grant 0 % in progression.
2. Brand New Part: Good Skill Checks grant 5% total Generator progression, Great Skill Checks grant 10% total Generator progression.

Balance achieved.

They either gen tapped or they're just good at skillchecks.

The perk Stakeout also counters Ruin because it makes your Good Skill Checks count as Great.

@Swiftblade131 said:

If they had brought in toolboxes/BNP then sure, but they did not. 1 guy had a medkit (he was solo) and the other 3 brought in flashlights (Obvious 3 man SWF given their names)

Then I would say they simply worked the gens despite the progress reduction. Hex: Ruin in no way prevents players from repairing gens. A skill check is required to prompt the 5% progress reduction. Seems to me, and I wasn't there, just trying to offer alternative suggestions, that even if each gen prompted 4 skill checks, at a worse case scenario, that's 100% increase is gen production required to power the gates. So, not impossible...but an increase in time that should have been discernible.

Bottom line.....it's not what you experienced that makes Hex: Ruin worthless, but I can see why it would be frustrating. I'm the type of person that I can "deal" with most anything.....not just in gaming, but in life....so long as I understand it. So I honestly get where you are coming from.

It was one game, game on....

Ruin is an RNG bandaid perk. The survivors may get few skillchecks. They may be really good at skillchecks. They map tap through the gens. They may find the totem right away, with you spawning on the other side of the map as a low mobility killer. And yet, you still have to run it because the alternative is a guaranteed 3 minute match as anything but a Nurse or a Hillbilly/Huntress who gets lucky early on.

Ruin is indeed a gamble but ruin is also a gamble that every killer is forced to make. In the low ranks ruin will grind a game to a halt because new players are awful at hitting even good skillchecks. Mid ranks ruin is still very effective but in the high ranks the perk starts to become pretty mediocre. If its not destroyed in the first 30 seconds good survivors can still power through it. I myself can consistently hit ruin skill checks most of the time and when i play in high ranks its does little to stop the gen rush. I wish the devs would fix the fundamental issue of generator blitzkrieg. I hate running ruin as i would love to run something more interesting but i cant afford not to run it.

@JarJarBlinks said:
I find all hexes to be useless to be honest with the exception of No One Escapes Death. Why? Totem placement in this game is amazingly bad most of the time. The other day I played as a survivor and I spawned right behind the Killers ruin, about 10 feet away. He rage quit as soon as I dismantled it. Can't really blame him for that when he lost one of his perks ten seconds into the game.

On the new Crotus Prenn map for the clown i noticed that they made no effort to improve totem spawns there. First match i had i saw a totem spawn literally 5 feet from a generator. The only map that has decent spawns is The Game and sometimes lerys/badham but it all depends. I cant wait for the totem rework. It really needs some love.

@FSB75 said:
Hexes are amazing and powerful....just very poorly executed in game.

In your particular case, it would appear as though you were "matched". Which is the purpose of balance. I'm completely speculating here....but with even a couple of survivors using a "band new part", I can see how Hex: Ruin could be countered (Again, part of the balance).

1. Hex: Ruin: 5 % regression on the Generator and Great Skill Checks grant 0 % in progression.
2. Brand New Part: Good Skill Checks grant 5% total Generator progression, Great Skill Checks grant 10% total Generator progression.

Balance achieved.

Hex perks are neither amazing, nor are they powerful.
They are not powerful enough to justify their drawbacks.
He just explained that the survivors just powered through them. They can do that by either hitting all the great skill checks (not really hard) or by gen tapping (no skill required).

For that tiny random (because it can be cleansed in the first 30 seconds) slowdown a killer sacrifices a perkslot.
Hex perks should be converted into normal perks. They solely exist to give survivors something else to apart from gens. That plan failed, since all but 1 Hex perk are mediocre at best.

@Tsulan said:
Hex perks are neither amazing, nor are they powerful.
They are not powerful enough to justify their drawbacks.

I am suggesting that without ANY drawbacks Hex totems are a game changer. If I could just "have" Hex: Ruin for an entire trial...survivors would stop playing the game entirely. This is what makes them powerful and amazing. When I made that statement I was talking about the sole ability itself...not the drawback or poor implementation currently in place.

Only so much you can do to hide them. When you have 4 people wandering around a map, eventually they will be found. I do agree though that a scenario where a survivor spawns by an active totem should NEVER happen but the same can be said for survivors that spawn near the killer at the start. Both are aggravating situations that should never happen and are in fact 100% avoidable already but for whatever reason has never been changed.