Bring old DS back
So I understand that current DS serve as a tool against filthy campers and tunnelers. Okay. I get and appreciate it. But old DS did it as well and even more. How about the people who get downed very fast at the start of the match? It's not fair at all. Old DS was the last thing that brought a bit of a balance to this game and yet you destroyed it. Now killers dominate and eliminate everything and games as survivor are very frustrating. Good job. Guess why waiting times as the killer are so long?
My suggestion is to return old DS back. Who agrees?
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No, never, not in a million years.
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Sadly has to disagree....i do love the new one, it stops those who tunnel etc and it has a fair chance to survs now. *s
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Having old DS come back while MoM is still a thing = Good bye 90% of killer mains.
This isn't even a debate, its a definite no.
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Low quality bait.
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Hell no
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We do not have plans to revert the changes to Decisive Strike at the moment. If someone goes down very early in the match, Decisive Strike by design is not meant to activate. Right now it acts as a second chance if the killer decides to chase you immediately after being unhooked. Making it activate at the very start of the match would reward the survivor for playing poorly. Doing so also eliminates all of the killer's momentum which is crucial at the start of a match.
For a more detailed explanation on why it was changed, you can check here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/48381/
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If you got caught you got caught. Old Ds was balanced? How was a free escape balanced? If you can't play without old Ds or without MoM then I suggest you get better at the game.
Edit: Why? Just why would you want old ds back?
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Most likely bait, nobody who isn't toxic agrees that Old DS was balanced. Literally nobody agrees it was balanced, just look at MoM. Its not as bad as Old DS but literally NOBODY likes it. (Unless of course... you're toxic...)
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Big no
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really it's a NO , NO , NO never again. survivor play with broken perks and think is great and skilled. Can a mod close this thread please.
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I think it should be useable more than once in its current form. I've only been hit with it one time since the change, because I don't tunnel, so it really would not effect me much. That said, I think if you really want to discourage tunneling, make it activate for 60 seconds after hook 1 and hook 2 regardless of whether it was used. (Not sure if it currently works that way or not; then again, if/when I play survivor I never use DS - even old DS.)
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Jesus Christ I've never read something so idiotic in my life.
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No. Never. Never ever, ever. The old DS is gone and it'll never come back.
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That isn't happening. The old ds had no intelligent play or true counterplay outside of juggling which was situational. You shouldn't be able to deny a killer his first hooks on survivors without help from teammates or the killer being a bonehead and messing something up.
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"Now killers dominate and eliminate everything and games as survivor are very frustrating"
Dumbest thing I've actually read.
Survivors are the ones that dominate, they have soooo many second chance perks and not to mention they already have built in 3 lives, as they need to get hooked 3 times to die, combine that with old DS, that's like 4 chances to live, now combine that with DH, BL, Lithe, SB, SC and many many other second chance perks. Multiply that by 4 survivors and you say survivor games are frustrating?
You obviously don't have enough killer experience, otherwise you'd know how broken and unfair it was.
Git gud and stop relying on crutch perks.
I'm expecting another thread from you about the MoM change soon.
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If you can't last more than 5 seconds in a chase you need practice.
Watch some juking videos, and looping.
You're trying to blame the killer for doing his/her job and not yourself.
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Even your reflection in the mirror says no.
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Old DS is never coming back. You just need to accept that.
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"Restore balance" this game would be dead if it was balanced the way you would.
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No.
Even current DS is broken in the sense that it won't "protect" survivors from being tunneled.
It just gives them 60 seconds of invulnerability, plain and simple. I've been hit with DS after chainsawing and hooking 2 other people in those 60 secs.
Tell me how is that tunneling.
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the bait is strong in this one
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I wonder if theres going to be these types of threads a few years down the road...
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The whole concept of tunneling is hard to tackle in a game where the only objective for the killer is hitting and downing survivors. If they wanted less tunneling they should have made the game have more stuff for both sides to do other than rush the ######### out of each other.
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Them downvotes though, LOL
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Retarted troll post. Account made not 7 hours ago and first post is to bring back DS and how it was balanced. Get lost loser.
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Current Decisive is still viable, why are survivor mains still bitching? In fact, if the future enduring change comes to the live build, it won't affect Decisive and it will last the full 5 seconds. Decisive strike still has the power to save your ass and win you games.
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Agree.
Additional mandatory objectives have been missing for a long time now.
And there's no sign of them in the near future.
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Never bring old DS back. New one is perfectly fair, old one was way too OP.
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A bit of balance. What you got rewarded for failing a chase.
Like it or not the skillcheck was not difficult to hit and it basically mean that you got waste the killer's time for free.
The way it is now is actually a lot more balanced it punishes tunneling but doesn't reward you just randomly getting down.
The Killers that aren't tunneling or camping aren't punished for doing their jobs
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To compensate, bring back OG NOED, Deerstalker, TINKERER, UNRELENTING, & PWYF!
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@KaoMinerva also OG nurse
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Is this the post with the most downvotes here in the forum?
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Shitpost Friday was yesterday sorry
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no u
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Can we break 100 downvotes? Only 1 more lol
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No. Not fun for the obsession OR the killer. Current DS is fine; it acts as a counter-tunneling perk, and that's OK. Although I do wish there was a way for idiots that intentionally get caught to use it could be punished for playing that way.
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Yo ik im late but how do you get a red pfp??
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OH YEAH BABY. the death of ds is somewhat the beginning of the end of an era of total game unbalancement
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Old thread, but TBH as a killer i much prefer the old DS. The old one had a counter, i could juggle the survivor and often still get a hook. Also, it only really worked on the guy who was the obsession most of the time.
On top of all that, you could run Enduring and reduce the duration of the stun.
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the one that punished the killer for winning a chase? oh i post a comment in a very old tread why do people revive these things?.
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Am I the only who who actually prefered old DS over new DS? Old DS had so many counterplays ... Enduring, Unnerving Presence, dropping, basement stairs, Clown's bottles ... plus survivor couldnt abuse lockers, or getting grabbed of a gen or window. Survivors also couldnt abuse it as much during endgame, because you could drop them. Non-obsession was pretty much a wasted perkslot, unless someone else gave you a free hit.
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DS still needs a nerf because I constantly get hit with hit even if I'm not tunneling my record is this
Survivor A gets unhooked
Survivor B gets hooked
Survivor C gets hooked
Survivor A gets downed again and I try to hook him DS, I was clearly tunneling btw
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Clown bottles still work right now.
Lockers and windows also worked. Ds would work upon being picked up and being carried.
Old ds, all 3 forms of it, deserve to be forever lost in memory.
We bring back old ds then we better be removing half the pallets that spawn on the map. Especially now, at a time where early game pressure is so crucial.
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But can you tells us when you are going to nerf it even more? At this point I am 100% sure you are going to nerf it again because for some reasons waiting 60 seconds and chasing someone else, slugging, eating the DS are not enough counters for some people. Somehow all survivor perks should have an activation condition, a penalty and a very small in game effect so it doesn't bother the killer in any way or require them to change their playstyle in any way.
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