Remove the ability to suicide on hook.
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People paid the same amount of money to play CS:GO as well, and if you do that ######### there you get banned for it.
The point i'm making is, in games like
DotA
LoL
CS:GO
etc.
They all ban you for this type of #########. And on top of all of that, those games often have matches that can last an hour or more. A game of DBD lasts 10 minutes most of the time. If you are telling me that you can't have a game that isn't going your way or "teammates who are urban evading all over the map" for 10 minutes, you need to pick a different hobby, let alone a different game. You don't see those games i listed above having players complain that they can't quit, or feed when their teammates are bad. People suck it up, and they stick it out, even if it means taking an hour to finish a game they are losing.
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I suicide due to crappy team mates. Get over it. We deal with worse. Go for a hatch escape if you have team mates suiciding. It's their loss even if sucky for you.
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Psst. If you're suiciding, you're the crappy teammate.
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Not on first stage, on second I should have stated. I will hang and then usually I'm lucky as they come for moi. But if not and no camping killer i will play that way after tapping to see if I'm getting saved or not. Yesterday I had a match where 2 saves I went for did it right in front of me. That irked me as it was their first hook. So I get that completely. I think it is that I could be in a new match or start the waiting time instead of hanging around and losing points. Just my opinion obviously and each to their own so to speak.
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changing these specific rules will just get you afk players. that's it. nothing else. the people who suicide on hook will get hooked, and go afk. you might save them, but they'll sit under the hook ready to be rehooked..while doing something else. you'll never be able to force someone to play a match they don't want to play.
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Punishment and penalty are pretty much the same thing.
The Kobe is an in game feature. Probably designed because they saw the flaw in not giving anyone a chance to do anything but hang on the hook if the team is not helping. It's not much of an option, but at least it's something when you teammates are, for whatever reason, not unhooking you or if you are stuck with toxic, cheating teammates.
Maybe the other teammates should be given a penalty for bad behavior instead?
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And this is a very, very valid reason that happens A LOT.
If the team is that good that they can sacrifice another teammate like that. Go do the gens and game on your own - I'm moving on to the next game and hopefully find people that will play with me or killers that won't make it impossible to enjoy. :-)
I hear ya.
That kindred is such a double edged sword isn't it? lol
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@DudeDelicious I don't know if you do this, but, I do fake Kobe for a bit to see if the teammates will respond. For me that gives them the opportunity to make a choice if the killer isn't around. It's a good indication of the team and then you don't unnecessarily suicide. :-)
...and exactly. We booted it up because we want to play with everyone.
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Oh wow. ATM I still try to have faith though the sad thing is - I might eventually get to that point myself. lol
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A killer main defending what is statistically the most unbalanced map in the game. Why am I not surprised? It”s almost as if you have some kind of agenda 🤔
Its funny because I wasn’t even talking about the glaring unbalance. Its as dull as bricks as both survivor and killer. Once I can put up with it but if the game throws this trash at me 3 times in one night you best believe I’m either giving up on 1st hook as survivor or just facecamping as killer.
35 maps in the game and this one comes up more than any other map some nights. Yeah right. They need to fix their map selection.
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I didn't defend it. I said I escape from it regularly.
You also thought Billy was OP in his base kit before the (barely) nerf. So I'd think twice before criticizing people when people with your flawed mindset are in the extreme minority.
Sit down.
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No. If a person doesn't want to stay you can't FORCE them to stay.
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Dude if they're killing themselves on hook they obviously don't care about their emblems. Lol. Also yes, a vote system. They totally won't be forced to stay and play through a match they don't want to play via a vote system. That totally won't lead to people just afking til the match is over! But then you'll probably want an AFK penalty as well.
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I know we cant name because we need to protect all the innocent trolls in this game but I just got lumped with someone who had killer / Killer = dc as their name, the killer parts obviously being the name of 2 killers in the game
They started fast vaulting next to a gen me and another survivor were working on, then they ran around dropping every pallet on purpose even though the killer was nowhere near
These are the kinds of trolls infesting the game now. This is why the rest of us dc or suicide on hook, and yes I did give up on 1st hook in that game
But of course the company couldnt care less so long as the money rolls in. I think they gave up long ago
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It's silly that you are bitching about survivors giving you and easy game; wait until you get into the red ranks and you'll really be bitching when you can even get a single kill.
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Yeah no. You can't force people to play a game they don't want to play. Guess what would happen if you got your way. People would just go afk until they died.
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Just remove struggle for the sake of keyboards.
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Exactly.
AFK is an option, kinda lol - but the reason I don't do that (AFK) is if it's a farm on the solo thing, or a killer that is tunneling or camping. (Again those last two things are a play style so that's fine) however, if I'm up on the first hook, about to be farmed and really haven't had any chance to play - part of the reason I suicide is to make sure they get one hook only and as for my teammates - no heals or saves.
For me, because I don't care about ranks, this punishing them for the behavior with far less blood points etc then if everyone were to simply - play. They might not care about the BP - but they lose a lot in the long run. Killers get far more winning chases and hooking three times. The teammates can still farm one another and other things - but it's harder too.
You know you speak / boycott with your money? I speak / boycott with BP. It also takes them longer if they are doing achieves. Maybe not much - but still. It's the only way I have to "protest" so to speak.
Make sense?
Edit: Bah I think I've said this before and my brain is so sleepy I'm on repeat :-( sorry.
Post edited by MaybeShesCrazy on0 -
play a fun killer and people wont suicide.
dont be an ######### and i wont suicide
if i have trash teamates imm a suicide
if you farm imma suicide
i want to play this game to verse skilled players and have interactions with the other side that ends either with a win or loss it doesnt matter though
i dont play this game to win i play to have fun.
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The only one I don't really mind is a bad teammate - as it - not skilled kind of bad. I'm not that great myself but I love to see people try so then - I stick around as it's usually fun.
If you mean the other type of bad. I hear ya! lol
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U guys do realize that it is a pretty decent survivor buff right? You can still Kobe 2 times but now you can do it at anytime and the only thing you'll take is an emblem hit for failing (dunno which one). No other consequence. If you fail a struggle (the devs already refuse to remove it so we have to assume it's in) normally you'd outright die. The only thing you really lose is suicide tech. It's such a niche Strat that I'm perfectly fine to trade that with essentially free kobes.
Ppl keep talking about punishing bad teammates, trollers or campers or people who play a certain killer... In this case, you're the bad teammate and troller. Killing yourself on hook is no different from trolling other survivors you don't like, except one of them is actually reportable (working with the killer). If you want to be selfish and have full control. Why are you playing the side that's literally a team and meant to have less power? You're completely reliant on this game on others as a survivor and you spend a monstrous percentage of time stuck in one place either downed, holding m1 to do an action, being healed or hooked. As for the choice/USA rights thing. They don't let you suicide in the States. If they find out you're suicidal they try to save you and keep watch over you until they think your stable. And they'll probably make you pay for it too.
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They slowed down hook suicides! After each attempt you get stunned for like a second. My teammates don’t seem to get the message and still save me....
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Why does anyone feel the need to DC against a legion?
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Isn't there a 4% chance to unhook yourself? If so the solution is to remove the health loss for attempting to unhook yourself, start the the % chance to 10 and slowly reduce it every failed attempt. You will eventually change hook state as your health degrades on hook anyway and you would have a genuine chance to unhook yourself without a perk. Temporary immunity to damage if you unhook yourself but the only time you can be mori'd?
Could self sacrifice on final hook?
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dc penalty was added, so everyone would suicide on hook, if suiciding on hook is removed, people will afk
the only option for the devs is to fix the issues on why people dont want to play
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I'll never forget the day I tried to suicide on hook when a brave but silly jake was determined to get me off the hook with a patrolling NOED Bubba hanging around, while jake had a clear run to follow the rest of the team out of the gate.
It was my first hook and he had some damn near misses. So the next time he got chased away i tried to suicide on hook so he didn't end up on a hook next to me.
At that point, i received my first honest-to-goodness kobe and legged it out the opposite gate.
I don't suicide for needless reasons, but i will if i feel the team are just gonna land themselves in a 4k for the killer by trying to save me.
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Better idea: remove d/c penalties & replace disconnects with bots.
Here's to hoping.
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Raising your arms for a kobe is DBD sign language for "the killer is at my hook"
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what sucks tho killer stuck in the game survivor just kill them self on hook how that fair.
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Survivors want to play Vs friendly killers, rushing gens and bye , make the game competitive , and fix the genrush
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If you add bp penalty, lol, I will play only killer. xD Just dont "reward bp" for not doing skill checks or not pushing space bar. If someone want to break their keyboard for 100bp, they can do it.
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i love this should be a thing remove d/c penalties & replace disconnects with bots it like the best way to deal with it before anyone say humans are better then bots is that because you can't bully bots?
i want a bots mode story mode so if this game ever does die i can still play it.
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EPPS - Then many people don't have the memo. Seriously. No joke.
Every time I do it - teammates come running for me LMAO!!! So either crazy - or stupid? or both?
Burt I swear when I have kindred on and someone does it - the killer is absolutely no where near them.
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