MMR is killing DBD

I'm not saying that higher rank matches won't result in sweaty gameplay, but right now the game doles out sweaty matches anyway, and that's without the current MMR up and running on every system.

I play this game casually, and even then I find myself going up against far more experienced players than I should. Perfect example, I played a killer match the other day with Freddy. I'm a rank 13 killer, but the game matched me against an all red rank team who were clearly on comms because they were far too coordinated not to be. I had no business going up against people that far more experienced than myself. Needless to say it was an absolutely miserable match.

Personally I welcome the new MMR because anything would be better than it is right now.

It’s been active on Xbox for almost 2 weeks now.

Sometimes I wonder if it secretly is active on PS4. Yesterday, when I was rank 12 on killer (was rank 1 in the past before multiple resets, so I have high MMR) I got matched against an all red rank survivor team. If MMR isn't active yet, why would it match a rank 12 killer against rank 2-4 survivors?

The current/old matchmaking system is designed to match killers with survivors who are about the same seasonal rank, it's not supposed to be completely random. MMR is supposed to match killers or survivors who purposefully de-rank or go inactive for awhile causing multiple rank resets, with people who are at their actual skill level, instead of with people who are around their current seasonal rank. The fact that it matched me, a former rank 1 but current rank 12 killer, against a team of survivors who are rank 2-4, makes it seem like MMR is already active. And it wasn't just that 1 match either, I'm getting at least 1 red rank survivor in just about every match now as killer.

matchmaking sucks but i don't have high hopes for the new mmr tho.

Just have SWF count each member's score as like 25-50% higher, depending on how many are in a group.

4-man SWF kill squad each with individual crazy high MMRs, let's just make up a number and say... 2500? The group will collectively have an average MMR of 2500.

Well, they're in a 4-man squad, so they get the maximum group MMR "bonus" of +50%, so now we add 1,250 so the average group MMR is 3750, they matchmaking will try to match them with the highest tier killers out there, people so sweaty they need a dehumidifier just for their pants.

But here we have a 2-man potato squad. Both have minuscule 300 MMRs, but they're still in a group, so they get a little 25% boost, adding 75 to 300 their group average (for the two of them) is now 375. Definitely a fair bit higher but still in the potato range.

And of course, unlike what our man Scott Jund says, I don't think it will make matchmaking "take forever," MMR matchmaking tries its best to pair you with people of your skill level first, not only. Then it broadens the search.

I don't think MMR will be a huge deal one way or the other, but I don't know how the numbers work on the backend, or their parameters or anything, I'm just saying I think a system like the one here would be pretty easy and I think would be relatively fair.

I have been very worried about this, and figured that since I hadn't heard anything about it that it was going well on Xbox, unfortunately this is what I was afraid of and is very concerning, thankfully if it did go live with what your describing there would be an immediate out-cry about it, and hopefully something would be done about it.

Well tbh it is a fact that killer potential can be put in tiers. And the MMR will PROBABLY work similar to ranking tiers in other games like league of legends.

If we take the killer tiers and put them against the MMR of survivors it will lead to a tendency of high MMR survivors only facing high tier killer at some point. This will ONLY influence the top tier players aka pros in other games.

The broad general mass of players will still play mostly like now, maybe with less rainbow matches, I don't know.

The thing is the aforementioned high end players are the vets and a good amount of vocal players that kept this game alive but the devs have shown to just balanced around the masses.

The MMR probably won't kill the game and improve the situation for most but at some point they will lose the top, however much percent, that don't look for a constant "sweaty" challenge.

I really don't think this game IS a party game (independent of they advertising I never gave any attention anyway).

It IS a asymmetrical PvP! game. There is one side that can play as a "PARTY".

Normal party games like stick fight, works, ultimate chicken horse, speed runners and so on are made of a certain amount of players from a group playing against EACH OTHER. They are for a fun experience with each other.

If you declare dbd a party game then rocket league, league of legends, rainbow six siege, overwatch and so are also party games if you don't play ranked. But in these games you also don't look just for the relaxed friendly group play but a PvP experience.

You are also ignoring what I said before. If you have pure "rank 1" teams (whatever equivalent that is going to be in MMR) then it might be right. But also in more or less working matchmaking in DBD you didn't have pure rank 1 matches or pure rank 2 matches. Even pure red ranks was not the common scenario. So if the MMR is working properly, you will have that weak member the killer will have to focus on, you will have that one top rank survivor the killer will need to catch offguard or ignore, you will have the mistakes from even good survivors that a good killer will have to take advantage of, even with a mid tier killer, to get the pressure he needs to win a game.

It is not that black or white scenarios everyone is talking about. And although noone from the devs confirmed that (because noone was talking about it yet) I'm pretty sure that also the perfect matchmaking system will not have pure rank 2 games. It will be mixed games and mixed games will also allow a Demo to run against a "red rank"

I'm sorry but stopped as soon as you said "boring killers" sounds like something a survivor says when they had a bad day, also MMR is love in Xbox and it's been making matches better and more balanced. I went from last week having 4 rank 20 survivors to a more rounded group or high ranks. Matches lasting longer and more fun.

MMR is working so far.

So I started to play recently, and I'm only rank 14 killer (never gone lower) haven't hit a reset yet, this Thursday is my first, and when I play I am only ever matched against 1-5 ranks. The past week or two, I have not seen anyone lower than red and its really annoying to me. I'm also a rank 12 survivor but these past two weeks, every single game I'm playing are green and yellow survivors against specifically and only rank 1 killers. It is honestly the most frustrating thing I've been through because when I first started and played with people in my rank, games were actually fun and my friends and I were balanced. But now we're slaughtered every game or when playing killer, we're faced with tactics we don't know how to counter because we simply don't have that skill.

Except I'm only 12 as survivor and I'm put against rank 1 killers.. And I just played a killer game (rank 14 killer) against 4, 4, 2, and 1

Interesting to see how this thread progressed. OP described the MMR experience perfectly.

We need MMR.

We were matched by Rank alone for a long time. Its kind of changed recently, by increasing the pool of ranks you can be matched with (or just flat out not working), but if this didn't kill the game then why would MMR kill it? They are literally the same thing except one is, most likely, invisible.