Remember When Games Were About FUN?

I agree with pretty much everything you said. :)

I do love to run fun/non meta builds, but recently when I tried out a completely new build I got first hook mori'd 3 games in a row, then left on hook until stage 2 to then get immediately downed and was about to get hooked again. First time this year I purposefully dc'ed mid match. The match after had an offering that didn't turn... I quit and chose to play a different game. :/

So yeah, at that point I'll run a meta build because I want to have some sort of fun too.

I would love to get along with everyone here, but it's harder than it seems. Most of the people who play only one side create "us vs them" mentality, which creates even more toxic enviroment than it is. Also DBD's design gives people tools that can be abused to grief or deprive your opponents of the fun.

Also many players don't understand losing is part of the game and it's completely fine to not 4k every match as a killer or escape every match as a survivor.

I just hope devs are working on these issues and try to unite both sides, so we can have more friendly and respectful community.

Almost every single game has been taken competitively in some form. Even purely PvE games have competitions (like speedrunning)

PvP games always come with an inherent competitive element and DbD is no exception.

Even though I consider DbD a casual game with a competitive element there are plenty of players who treat it as a pure competition.

I myself usually play a lot more competitively as killer. Because outside of competitive element the killer gameplay for the most part is doing circles around pallets which is very far from my idea of fun.

This ^

It's not only on dbd, on many "casual gamemodes" in games who have a competitive one, some people pressures everybody like their life on the matter, the community isn't on the matter, certain people/streamers/youtubers who advertise toxic environment in game can also be responsible to bring the community down.

The problem isn’t that people don’t play for fun, it’s that everyone has a different idea of what fun is.

A full SWF teabagging with Object and flashlight macros may not be fun to you or me, but to those particular survivors it’s fun.

A killer running forever Freddy with four slowdown perks may not be fun for the survivors, but it may be fun for the killer.

A Wraith running a meme build and bing bonging away could be having a great time, but to someone who was expecting a serious game it may be completely unfun.

There’s no universal “fun” way to play DBD. I don’t find farming fun but others do. I find being tunnelled for all five gens fun, but it’s probably not fun for anyone else in the match, and others consider being tunnelled unfun.

So how do you please everyone? I try to play in a way that’s fun for me and I don’t want to ruin anyone’s match, but I still get people telling me I’m “playing like a #########” sometimes, when I don’t think I am at all. I certainly don’t try to. But I’m not a circus clown who’s there to entertain others - I don’t cheat, exploit, BM, try to be toxic or abuse overpowered stuff, but I feel like that’s as far as my consideration for others needs to go. Sorry if it’s not fun if I do gens fast or get downs fast, but it’s not fun to lose. That’s life.

The answer is simple....

Dopamine Addiction.

Its not DBD's fault, its the condition of humanity as a whole.

That's one of the things that bother me the most while playing DBD. The game offers you 20 killers with 72 different perks and 22 survivors with 80 different perks. A lot of items and addons. But the real experience is limited to a dozen perks, undefeatable builds, and a lot of sweat and tears.

And here on my region (South America) the community is extra-toxic. I have some NA and EU friends who play the game and even tho they face some toxicity, here it's another level. People really hope to destroy the experience for the other side.

The only way i really have a funny experience is when i get to face mid-rank players. That way i can play a little sloppy, go for adepts or meme builds while not ruining the experience for neither side.

People always complain when somebody says the game is survivor-sided. It is, under certain circunstances.

The current game situation is something like this: SWF Survivors -> Good Killers -> Bad Killers -> Solo Survivors.

If you are able to MAXIMIZE efficiency, the survivors can pop various gens across the map, no matter what killer they are facing. That way, a 4-man death squad can win every single game in a row. The same way a very efficient killer with good tactics and no fear of judgement (noed, tunnel, camp, slug when necessary) can do a pretty goob job when not facing a death squad. And even using a bad character. And that makes the solo uncoordinated experience almost a literal nightmare. But that doesn't happen because survivors are weak, but because you rely a lot on luck as a solo survivor. You can be left to die on first hook, you can get teammates that avoid the objective, who throws the game or just care about themselves.

As a survivor, you need to do gens and worry only about a killer. As a killer, you have to stop 4 people who can very much spread across the map from reaching their objective. So the game is a little survivor-sided, and it has to be, unless you want 4ks all the time while not SWFing, and I say that as a red rank on both sides. That's what my experience playing solo, SWF and killer showed me. We have other things that throw away the raw balance of the game and make matches unpredictable, but technically speaking, thats pretty much it.

I really think another game modes would make the game MUCH MORE FUN and challenging.

An adept only competitive mode.

An unranked multiplayer matchmaking mode.

A try-to-survive mode with only 1 hook to kill and a lot of players.

A killer-showdown mode.

But it seems prety distant from reality right now.