If you defend camping and tunneling then stop complaining about genrushing.

Camping punishes survivors even if you gen rush you still depip

this "genrushing" thing was invented not long time ago , and even if they complain (which i rarely see, usualy killers complain about speed of repairing on forum and not accuse survs of it) about genrushing survs dont give a damn and always will do their best to win , but tullening and camping are "scandalous", if one time during a game u accidently "tunnel" a person in aftergame chat you will be cursed for this act of cruelty.

so this genrushing are the in game but camping and tunneling are considered as a great crime .

funny people accuse you of doing effectively your job, usualy killer is a target of accusation but i see this came to survs at last.

i heard it not working i think they trying to fix tho i find it odd someone would say to use it when a lot ppl know it not working.

Depends on the scenario i guess. If a team mate is sabotaging hooks while i carry you, i will tunnel them to stop that happening again. Same with Flashlights. Gen rushing is situational at best too, rarely happens to me but in the past i've had 3 gens pop in just over a minute into the game.

Abusing the game to have a huge advantage that guarantees victory for the killers most of the time is not fair nor healthy for the game.

How is being near a hook waiting to jump into another chase with an injured survivor is the same as doing gens?

And don't you dare use the excuse of ''killer's objective is to kill'' to justify this behaviour.

You said to not tunnel a.k.a. the easiest target who is already hurt but rather someone is who healthy while they can go on gens. It's the same thing except more words. Efficiency.

Note: How did I put words in your mouth by asking a question?

So tell how is it fair to target a player who can't defend themselves since you are already close to them since you want to ''target the injured person''

They don't have a health state to give them a boost once hit and they can't escape since you were near and now where they are.

Please explain in detail how this gameplay mechanic is fun, balanced, and rewards skill?

Hi all

I would like to say something here.

When i play as killer, i am tunneler main..

When i play as survivor, i am genrusher main..

So no more complaints, the game is balanced on both sides to play dirty.

Funny enough, It's usually Gen Rushing that forces killers to camp and tunnel in order to gain some semblance of pressure so they can start a snowball effect, or so they can net at least 1 kill before the survivors escape. When up against a true team of "Gen Rushers" (a team equipped to finish 3-4 gens in the first 3 mins of the trial), a killer may only get one or two chases at most in the opening minutes of the trial, and if they manage to down 1 survivor and hook them, only to see 3 gens pop during or right after that chase... a sudden "dying inside" feeling of hopelessness set in, and that really puts pressure on the killer to try and take any advantage they can get in order to salvage the situation, if possible.

In that kind of situation, of which I have been a part of both from the survivors and killers perspective, the killer really only has 3 options:

1. Camp the Hook to try and secure a kill whilst also hoping that more than 1 gen rushing survivor tries to rescue their ally so you can start snowballing the team.
2. Patrol around the area within 30 meters of the hook to see if you can spot and down another survivor coming for the rescue, whilst being sure to knock the hooked survivor back down again as soon as he gets unhooked to keep the team busy trying to rescue instead of doing gens.
3. Leave the hook to attempt to pressure the gens, expect the unhook to happen while locating/chase a new target survivor, and down them asap.

Of these 3 options, no. 2 is the most likely to succeed. If you locate and start chasing a survivor who came for the rescue, that means that a 3rd survivor has to leave gens in order to rescue the hooked survivor, leaving 1 hooked, 1 chased and possibly downed, 1 substitute rescuer, and 1 on a gen. If you also manage to down the survivor again right after they've been unhooked, that extends the time the majority of survivors aren't doing gens, which allows the killer to start regaining pressure. Option 1 is sad, and only lets the rest of the team continue finishing off the gens, because if they know you are camping, and they aren't idiots about it, they'll punish the killer for it and escape at the cost of 1 teammate. Option 3 is also pretty bad, because you have to guess where another survivor is most of the time, reach that generator area, and give chase to down them asap. Meanwhile, the other survivor gets unhooked without worry, and can immediately get on a gen with their rescuer, putting only 1 survivor in a chase and 3 doing gens.

Overall, against a true "Gen Rusher" team, very few killers can keep the pressure on the gens consistently enough while getting downs/hooks, in order to put a stop to it. So when that "Dying inside" feeling hits right after 3-4 gens pop, there's not much the killer can do to gain pressure that survivors won't find "scummy", and quite honestly, they should've known their actions directly correlate with the killers change in tactics, so I feel there's no reason to begrudge a killer for having to resort to using them when the survivors created the situation for it in the first place.

TL;DR

Gen Rushing Survivors should be prepared to "Reap what you sow", because it causes most killers to have to play "scummy" by using tactics like camping and tunneling in order to try and salvage the match. If anything... It's the survivors who shouldn't complain about it when their own "Gen rushing" tactics are directly responsible for causing the change in the killers tactics in the first place.

In fact one is a consequence off the other. Tunneling is a consequence of gen rushing. If you get rid of the second one, the first one will decrease dramatically.