PSA about MMR

I’ll go with it’s not working correctly, as is the case with most things in game.

tempted to play killer now and go for rifts, but, I'm thinking the smarter move is to Maybe kill 1 guy, and get no kills some matches, and not always hit survivors so that I can get the work phase finished and then begin having fun and going for rifts after 10-15 matches like that once I get (hopefully) the fun mmr where even if 3/4 games are swf 3/4 should also be potatos anyways

Except all evidence and BHVR testimony is completely against this narrative. They’ve already said anyone whose been playing won’t start at the default MMR. So they’ve effectively had their Placement Games. Furthermore, winning four games against Rank 19s is enough to ensure that your fifth game isn’t against a bunch of Rank 20s that have no idea what they’re doing.

Theyve clearly set the default MMR too high.

I've played a significant number of matches as Huntress, and I've felt like the survivors I'm facing are getting worse and worse even as my rank is increasing due to the number of 4ks. So, while there is merit to not immediately jumping on the bandwagon of "It's broken!!!" (because preliminary fluctuations will be inevitable if the MMR system was built correctly), you should keep in mind what kind of trend you see from match to match. Remember that you will probably end up facing/playing with a number of survivors who have NOT completed their ten matches and are still being moved around by the MMR system, so even if you're all set, the survivors you face or with whom you cooperate might not be.

I get all that, but it shouldn't take 10 matches for the game to realize I shouldn't be paired up with <100 hr players as a 2000 hr player myself. That's just common sense. There has to be some common sense built into this thing. I have over 10,000 blink attacks and I'm waiting 5+ minutes to get a lobby of rank 20s. That's just dumb. We really need to play the match out to see how that one goes?

I'm on xbox have have played well over 10 matches and I still get rank 20s all day.

I'd love that instead of the constant rank 1 squads I get placed as with a killer I haven't played since 2018.

So, for someone who only plays around 10 matches in a week because I only play video games one, maybe two nights a week, it could take close to a month for my MMR to settle? And that is just for survivor or one killer? And that is if, on that night or nights, I only play DbD and not Overwatch or WoW?

Fuck that, pass.

Exactly. It looks good on paper. The issue is that they have 20 killers, with the 21st due out . . . when? . . . in September, next month? I don't play Trapper, Hillbiilly, or Nurse, but that still leaves 17 killers (plus Survivor for 18) that I would need to settle an MMR with. And it is obviously taking longer than the 10 matches they claimed it would.

That would be like Overwatch saying to get an SR for all 32 heroes, instead of just for each role: damage, support, and tank. And even then, you only need five placement matches per role, for a grand total of 15 placements if you want to do it for all three roles (disclaimer: I would only did it for Support and Tank).

And I'm not interested in limiting myself to just a couple of killers, especially when I paid money for each DLC and didn't use shards for the non-licensed. I might want to play Myers, then Freddy, then Doc, then Ghostface, and so on.

But as a casual gamer (i.e. very limited time), that means I will have to constantly chew glass when I play, because it would take me forever to get a correct MMR on them, even if it was really only 10 matches, which feedback shows it clearly is not, not even for survivor which is just a single MMR.

Between the design of the Rift and now this, it just seems like they are trying to force login engagement and get those high metrics. As I'm sure that helps them in securing licenses.

Not the game I signed up for. It already has enough asinine grinds.

They should've used Rank to heavily weight MMR until a threshold of information was reached. They really need to do that to help keep baby killers and newbie survivors from the jaws of veterans.

Been playing survivor for a few hours (consistent R1 for a long time), just got a small update so I'm waiting for that now, but the killers I've been getting are f'ing hilarious. Like actually.

Clown with pinky finger who kept only trying to hit bottle shots at R3. Pretty fun time tbh cause his aim was bad. Threw a bottle right between me and my buddy's head at gate.

Right before that Tombstone Michael with noed who we didn't know was Tombstone until I got grabbed at the exit gate and murdered, lmao (my bad). He had hooked one person the whole match, definitely didn't seem to know what he was doing the whole game.

I'd say from what I've seen so far I'm getting mostly newer or inexperienced killers with a handful of killers at my skill level sprinkled in with mostly literal R20 babies for teams. Every other game I have like one teammate that is in or around red ranks and the rest are yellow and brown. I've seen more of those two colors recently than ever before. Used to be almost exclusively green and up.

And before anyone says anything, I know ranks are supposed to not matter anymore, but this is the same as describing a R20 that plays like they're actually more experienced (aka a smurf). You would describe them as being R1 experienced. When you play with/against people, especially multiple times, you tend to get an understanding of how they play and what their skill level may actually be and compensate accordingly.

If the R20 killer is playing as though they're R1, I'm not going to be able to pull off certain things I would be able to against someone who was actually R20 in skill.

If my R1 teammate crouch walks to a corner of the map without urban with the killer nowhere near us expecting me to follow and heal them, I'm going to know I can't rely on them.

I guess I need to stop screwing around and start killing again. I used to be a killer main but had to switch survivor due to long queue times. I like the 3 and 4ks but I also like to farm. When I farm I call it "Killing with Kindness," because I'm letting people go on 3rd hook and escape, etc. Really, it's because every game was either me dominating the map or me being stomped. It sounds like I might not have to worry about any of that anymore.

This entire fan base is insane. BHVR NEVER got ranks right. They have fundamentally shown they have NO IDEA how to measure someone's skill in this game. So why does anyone think they've suddenly figured out some working logic to do it with MMR. MMR and their old ranking were in essence, the same thing. Both were attempting to pair people with oothers of of their own skill. Meanwhile.......Twitch streamers are jumping ship. They are the only reason this game is even remotely relavent and hasnt died off completely. Most of them stopped playing survivor solo, and have switched to killer which is going to be the meta for the players in general, then you'll see the queue times get even worse for killer. The devs and their egos have just trashed this game. PRETTY GOOD JOB SO FAR GUYS!

I just got the game a few days ago.

It does seem to take *a lot* more matches as Survivor for MM to start working. As Killer, within 5 matches, I was fighting Rank 16-20 Survivors as a Rank 19-20 killer.

As a Survivor, just played my 8th... no joke, Rank 1 Killer, Rank 1-3 Each Other Survivor. Then me at 18.

This is a fun game, but boy did I buy it at the wrong time. I have no idea what questions this system is asking itself after 8 games where it's like: "Here's the answer: stick this guy with 3 red survivors and a red killer. That's where he belongs" but I truly felt awful as the killer got a perfect game because they were essentially 3v1 from the start.

Disclose ratings, that's all I request.

Well I spent 18 hours playing yesterday as a survivor with no noticeable difference. Spent 18 hours today playing a single killer only to play against ppl with over 1k hours the whole time. Only kills I managed were when they would get too cocky. My rank 12 killer rank doesn’t matter anymore, and neither do the ranks that were all 1-4, but there is definitely a skill gap there. This “10 games before you notice a difference” really means nothing for a lot of us right now. I’ve played around 300 hours, bought all the dlc, and most of the cosmetics, and have decided DbD is no longer for me. I liked sweating as a survivor, but I can’t even casually play as a killer to mix things up at this point.

So why not state when it was working and how it's working exactly? I know dead thread is dead, but still, this isn't something you leave your playerbase in the dark about. Especially since it seems these issues are pretty widespread.

I mean, that's good and all, but this isn't the first time they've made drastic changes and not clued in the playerbase as to why they even done it (i.e. Lunar Event)