Do red rank killers win every game?

I would say at least 75% of my matches at rank 1 are 3-4k's. Only reason there are 3's is because of hatch which is basically a 4k though.

Now this may seem high, but there are some things to keep in mind. Not only is matchmaking terrible now, but it has been for ages. As well as having messed up ranking and a broken derank system, meaning LOTS of survivors at high ranks that have absolutely no reason for being there.

My point is that with all these issues we've had for a very long time it means even at rank 1 we are being put against a lot of other "red ranks" that aren't really red ranks and are more like green or lower if we're being honest.

This is a good example of why kill stats are near completely worthless in terms of measuring balance.

Always expect to not win 9x out of 10 as Killer.

This 100%. Viewers and streamers themselves often forget that playing the game as a job leads to atypical results.

To answer OP's question: I do lose. Not very often, maybe once every 3 hours or so, but it does happen.

With Hag I tend to win most games but I'll play other killers and drop back down to purples often and rank reset is a yoyo for me from 4-5 for about a week until I can work back up to rank 2. I play probably 12-20 hours a week depending on events/archives/how often my friends want to play swf.

A lot of the streamers 4king every match also only play killer or very rarely play Survivor. It's amusing watching someone like Otz doing really well as killer and then watching him play Survivor and being somewhere between a potato and fairly competent.

I don't get all 4 survivors about 50% of the time

Winning all depends on the person

Do they think that 4k's are a win

Do they think that points are a win

Do they think that Pip's are a win

You can Pip and not kill everyone

Also you can kill everyone and either depip or safety

You can play a killer that gives a lot of points but not kill all survivors

These streamers, like myself, have practiced and practiced and practiced. Even then, we don't win every game. If you played for 4 years and learned all the tricks survivors do (and killers do when you play survivor), you would be able to do what we do. The key word here is PRACTICE. Four years I have been playing this game, I still lose games now and then because no one is perfect. You have off days or some survivors just out play you sometimes.

In fact a few weeks ago, I was playing my nurse. This was the first and ONLY game as a nurse that I lost when my blinks were perfect. I was up against 2 Green Ranks who told me in chat they were still new to the game and 2 red ranks. We were on the large map, Red Forest, the original one. After I started decimating the team in the beginning, slugging the crap out of them, they would abandon gens that were 70% done just to run and hide. I would search the area looking for them, they were working on other gens across the map that were 0% because they wanted to completely avoid me. Hiding in the area to them was too risky so when they knew I was coming, they took off to get away.

I lost because I couldn't find them. Gens took a while but their use of stealth and not being greedy ultimately lead to their victory. I never met a full team of survivors that were not greedy at all and played as smart as they did. Mind you, these were new players.

In chat later, they told me after they saw how well I played nurse, they knew to avoid me at all costs and hide. The respect they gave me and the respect of how they played because they recognized my own skill was honestly extremely flattering. It was also awesome to see survivors who were flexible enough to change their own strategies mid game. A lot of red ranks think the game is played only one way and if killers do something that interferes with their strategies, they start crying in chat about it. These guys were the total opposite, they were true gamers. I told them I looked forward to playing them in the red ranks because they played better then any red rank I ever seen (except the two red ranks in the game, they played better then other red ranks). We exchanged a lot of respectful compliments before moving on.

But as a nurse who rarely loses when her blinks are on point (can't say never now thanks to these 4 survivors), I learned that day that even as a nurse who generally 4ks or 3ks with a hatch escape (still a killer victory), you can still lose a game at red rank if the survivors know how to play. You will learn that most survivors don't know how to play though and can't handle the fact that they get beat because of it.

Red Rank doesn't mean you are good, it just means you play a lot! Getting rank 1 is easy, just keep playing. Go in with a strategy but don't be unbending, be flexible to change it up if the survivors are beating you with their strategies. A lot of survivors are not as good as they think they are, usually the ones playing DS, BT, Exhaustion Perks, and Adrenaline. Theses players use them because they are clutch perks and if I see them, instant mori as a killer! They use them because they don't have the skills to play survivor properly because they are used to fix mistakes.

Anyone that wants to argue this point, I have videos of myself running killers without the perks. The only perk I have used to run killers is Windows of Opportunity. The rest of my perks are all stealth perks like Calm Spirit and Lightweight. I ran a Bubba for 5 minutes straight with Self Heal, Calm Spirit, Lightweight, and Windows of Opportunity. I posted it on YouTube, he was a Red Rank 4.

So rank means nothing, just keep practicing and you will be fine. Learn how to counter a survivor's moves and end chases faster. Also, don't chase the guy who is really good and wants to be chased. Save them for last. If they are not on a generator, they are useless to the other survivors. Only the ones on generators matter!

moderately skilled killers might begin having a rough time once their mmr gets too high. The reason for that is once there's no longer a random potato to crack the door open with a sweaty duo or trio, you might find yourself having a very hard time getting more than a couple of kills in a game any more rendering a lot of rift challenges effectively impossible to complete without sympathetic survivors or pretending to farm and then morying all of them.

in the end the matchmaking will not be any better once it reaches that point. Especially if they don't change future rift challenges appropriately to compensate for the increased overall difficulty killer will be going forward. That's before they ruin moris even to keep swf happy and buying costumes. They're gonna need to act fast to keep the killers feeling satisfied and motivated to play killers or the game at all once the mmr singularity comes. The point it becomes aware of how pointless it is. Once people quit games these days, they rarely come back to them. I honestly don't expect a lot of killers to stick around once they realize they'll never get any potatos again without afking to offset their good matches, let alone potato swf... if you don't like the idea of swf now wait until then. Being a killer is gonna be even more frustrating and unrewarding a few months down the road once the mmr smooths itself out, especially if they don't finally let you opt of facing swf. I can't wait to see the threads 2 or 3 months from now. And with how polarized asymmetricals are, it is gonna be entertaining. I'm gonna have some doritos and beer ready to read as much of it as I can for the lulz.

Couldn't you make it sound a bit more biased? It sounds almost as if you're a Killer main!

Getting a 4k everygame in red ranks is not always possible. I do very well 90% but occasionally there is a really good 4 man swf when im not a viable killer like clown or deathslinger and cant do much. If you lose to a good team dont feel bad. Odds are there wasnt much you could do as gens are just too quick.

Not even close. This game is definitely balanced in such a way that the survivors usually win assuming equal skill level, especially with SWF's taken into account.

I'd say I'm around the 80-90%% 4k range and I agree it's mostly on matchmaking and I will still be comfortably destroyed by a well coordinated good team, this happening about once a month I'd say. All it takes is one weaker player and the game is really difficult to win for survivors.

When people say rank doesn't matter, what they really mean is you only have to be hypothetically in a top percentile to get to purple/red ranks, that being purple/red rank doesn't actually make you good, therefore you cannot point to your rank as a measure to state you are good. We could even say this group of players is something like 40% of the active playerbase. This means I could hypothetically be in the top 5-10% of player skill, but that then 75% of games I am matched with inferior players and win without much trouble, the extreme examples being the occasional 50h baby who has zero idea what they are doing and hit rank 2 because they play with friends who are decent.

I also totally agree with your take kill rates, and a lot of data in general being irrelevant to balance, personally I think you can only reliably go off of gameplay experience & the eye test. From the November 2019 data, even in exclusively red ranks, Nurse and Huntress were in the bottom 4 killers and had lower killrates than Legion. Yet they are undeniably far better and neither of these killers need any buff whatsoever.