A newer player's experience in DBD

I agree.

The priority should be this I think:

1. Fix game breaking/hindering bugs
2. Make the game more accessible (optional colorblind mode, the visual indicators as seen in the mobile version)
3. Add more modes (there's a number of good proposals floating around)
4. Add/overhaul maps (there so much storytelling in these maps, it's often a shame that things like Lery's or Glenvale have just one version)
5. Add new original killers and survivors (maybe even a roleswap dlc that adds survivor versions of the killers to the pool and vise versa)
6. Add a skill overview to see how good people are with individual killers and their abilities (which might prompt people to play killers differently)
7. Polish the balancing.

The only dlc I have paid money for is one survivor for inner strength. Other than that I have gotten most my perks from the shrine. I have all of Lori's perks and don't even own here.

Ngl it took me 2 weeks to learn how to loop efficiently, and when and when not to do gens. Not difficult. Killer is a lot easier, especially if playing someone like spirit, also op.

There are tutorials for both sides, however they are extremely boring and terrible. Neither survivor or killer are shown what looping is. I’ve just recently watched a streamer get into DBD. He had over ~6k people. All of his friends were streamers too. It was 5 of them doing a KYF. They all did the tutorial and none of them, throughout their 3-4 hours playing, used a pallet or looped. They had no idea how to stop the killer once caught.

Also your bloodweb argument is true. There are several pointless things in each web. You’ll spend BP to get BP offerings that will, on average, keep you at the same BP, but you’ll have to do a game to get your points back. It’s just filler for a grind. Enjoy your day!

I've found the lack of information outside of the tutorial more of a good thing going in. I had plenty of time to learn the basics properly before getting in high rank games. One of the best parts of the game for me was learning all this *mostly* on my own; it is satisfying winning mindgames and such. Of course with interest in a game usually comes watches YT vids or streams.

Good luck if you continue to play the game!

I'm sure your post deserves a full read, but for me you lost credibility and my interest as soon as you said there's no tutorial.

There's literally a tutorial and in-game guide telling you about many aspects of the game.

#6 is really key. If ranking no longer matters, then they really need to show the thing that does... because when I get 3 hooked in less than 5 minutes by a killer 16 rank points higher than me yet do well vs. killers near my own rank, rank seems to matter a whole heck of a lot more than they seem to think it does.

lol @ anyone who thinks this game has a tutorial. You clowns don't know what a tutorial actually is. A tutorial teaches you how to play a game and why you might want to do X or Y. Not just how to move and the very basic goal of "do gens" or "don't let them do gens." This game has one of the worst tutorials in the history of gaming. Not the worst, but damn is it up there.

You will NOT learn how to play this game at a level where you can do very well on your own. And to an extent that's fine, learning all the advanced techs and whatnot usually isn't tutorialized even in good games. But in this game you don't even throw down a goddamn pallet in the tutorial.

You need to give new players enough information to succeed in a way that will remain useful and relevant as they play. The tutorial teaches you habits completely counter to succeeding outside of rank 20 matches. The tooltips are full of status effects you have to check a wiki to understand (maybe there's a place to look up status effects in-game? If so I haven't seen it, which is damning unto itself) and even things like keys use outdated nonsensical terms like "black locks." ######### JUST SAY IT OPENS THE HATCH.

Defend it all you like, I don't know why anyone would, it's a piss poor effort to onboard new players, so it's not going to make the game more popular or successful. And taken with the hits to the player count over MMR and the endless list of bugs, I don't think any of us want the game to drop in popularity. They need to address these things. Joe McBadass figuring out window tech on his own is great and all, but for the vast majority of people, we're not even introduced to the concept of looping. LOOPING. I mean good lord. I don't even think the tutorial teaches you that you can heal others without a medkit. It's been a while since I've done it, but there's just this huge collection of information you're missing from the get-go.

And it's not like there's a practice mode where you can go to learn these on your own. That's the dumbest part of all. You're thrown straight into ranked matchmaking, with constant pressure to survive or kill, so learning is much more difficult than it should be. This is less frustrating if you know people who play and can do KYF, but in that case they'll be giving you the information anyway. The very least they could do is pop up little tutorial boxes when something happens for your first few games. Or like a tips-and-tricks section after a match that goes over how well you did (lol, as if they have the telemetry to accurately determine how well we do) and facts about the killer you faced.

There's so much they could do to encourage new players to dig deeper.

Your talking points are pretty spot-on. I've been playing for about three or four months now, and sadly if it wasn't for streamers I would have no idea how to play this game. The poor excuse of a tutorial doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of everything that can be done in this game. I personally don't understand how the mobile version managed to get a practice mode within a few months of being released, and yet dead by daylight proper hasn't received one in over 4 years.

New players and veterans alike need a way to test out mechanics without being expected to compete - especially new players! The last thing new players should have to do is be expected to compete against people far more experienced than them when they're just trying to learn the ropes.

I came here to say there's a tutorial as well. I'm new (read my previous posts) and the tutorial explained what I needed to do and why.

It doesnt go through looping specifically but most people expect if you're being chased you run so it's not really not intuitive.

I dunno maybe it's because I've been playing video games most of my life but the tutorial was good enough to get started. Maybe some advanced techniques to further the tutorial?

"Holding a button on a gen, looping a killer" - These two right here are what a lot of killer mains sling as insult to the survivor side. I find this a tough topic on getting bored of it because if they make the mechanic to complex in a game where the killer is going to be monitoring gens, it could make it very difficult to get anything done in general. (I personally would love to see like a button sequence they have to press in a timed manner like multiple inputs or fail a skillcheck) They already had issues with the games difficulty (I felt it would be harder on PS4, Xbox, & Switch) in the guise of Hex Ruin before it's nerf/rework. As newer players would run into it a lot due to the absolute abysmal matchmaking. Giving them issues actually getting skillchecks done while still learning. That was the closest I can say they really got in terms of any kind of skill or focus necessary. It could potentially scare newer players away for the reason of being to difficult to learn.

" Killer felt really stressful in a majority of games." This is controversial as it varies person to person on their experience. A lot of killer mains will in fact say this, while a lot of survivor mains will say the opposite (Example: playing killer is not stressful because you are the presence on the map)

My take (*Huntress, Pig, Clown main) the game is only stressful if you care really badly about getting 4 kills. 2-3 Kills in my opinion is still a win. It's honestly about strategy and perk synergy to me. You sadly have to accept that a lot of the time in this game, 2 - 3 gens will be done within the first 3 minutes or so (You have to bring perks these days like Corrupt Intervention, etc in order to actually prevent this sometimes as it gives, at least me anyway, enough time to usually find a person or two and sometimes you can get a lot of mileage out of it.) - but again it varies from person to person.

Also....No tutorial? Yes there actually is. Albeit they do not force you to actually play it, moreso seek it out if you wish to understand the game a bit better. Even then, what you can takeaway from that is not exactly the most helpful as I feel it doesn't really teach you the essentials. This game doesn't really hold your hand. It kinda let's you figure it out on your own through trial and error.

The whole thing sums up to, "It's to hard and I don't want to invest time". No one is going to be a god at dbd the first time they played it and watching someone else do it doesn't mean you could do the same. The best example would be too tier hi huntress gameplay. You watch the video and now you hope on dbd thinking you're about to clap cheeks only to get slammed. Also, the part where you say "when you try something new you're punished for it" is a big bruh moment. If your trying something NEW then of course you're gonna have problems learning to play it or against it. Looping as well has no guild and only experience could help you. Like damn man, we have people here who have over 2k hrs and STILL not know how to play dbd! All and all your post is simply a pissy fit on how you had a bad experience...

Yeah honestly I lost all respect for devs, the game needed operation health desperately and instead they just introduce a very unique and original idea called the battle pass, nerf ruin, nerf billy which turned out to not be so much a nerf and just a waste of time and somehow ######### up the auras and they also somehow made the FPS unbearable on console. I'm like you and just lurk the forums hoping that any second behaviour will get their ######### together because I like the game a lot but it's hard to enjoy it currently.

Specifically for survivor he said there was no guide or tutorial for doing gens or “bones” or how to use lockers. If you look at the game manual for survivors it has all of these categories: How to win, Health States, Dying, Avoid Getting Detected, Detecting the killer, Skill checks, Repairing Generators, Altruistic Actions, Searching Chests, Sabotage and Cleansing, Cooperative actions, CHASES (Killer Speed, Vaults, Break line of sight, Pallets),The exit gates, Wiggling, Hooks and Sacrifice, Items and ad-ons and the hatch. The game manual for killers is also very helpful: How to Win, Patrolling Generators, Damaging Generators, Hunting: Loud Noises, Scratchmarks, Sounds of the Wild, Bloodstains, CHASES, Bloodlust, VAULTS AND PALLETS, Survivors Health states, Attacking, Interupts, Transporting a survivor, Hooks and sacrifices, Disabled hooks, The basement, The exit gates, Memento Mori, Powers and Add-ons, and survivor awareness. Not to mention that every killer has an in depth description of their power and how it works. To top it off, there is a overall game manual that covers every single mechanic from perks to status effects to the endgame colapse. It even explains how daily rituals and the shrine of secrets works. I agree that the tutorial itself is lacking and it would be great for it to be much more extensive, but the game manuals cover literally anything a new player could hope to learn about. This mans is saying that there is literally NOTHING that can help a new player to better understand the game. I’m pointing out that that it’s silly for him to say that there’s no sort of guide when there is this vast amount of knowledge right at his fingertips. The tutorials could be much better, but I suggest you check out the game manuals and I think you’ll find they’re quite extensive.

For sure, and I hope I didn't come across as snobby! Admittedly I don't remember what the UI looks like in order to get to the tutorial, so I can understand if it needs improvement.

In regard to all of your other concerns, I hope the devs take note for new players and veterans alike :)