Why the Devs turn a blind eye to all the DS complaints?

Well, survivor not entitled here and I have read your post, your idea sounds good on paper but on practice it will cause the same kind of abuses. Shall we see them? In example EGC has started but you're not hooked near the exit gate, right now if you reach them within 40/50/60 secs (because tier matters) you still will be able to use, now it is abused BUT it is within 60 secs at tier III, meaning if they crawl for more than a whole minute and you pick them up you're safe now with new DS you will get screwed up no matter what as a killer and yes, the forum will start complaining with "What the (bad word) behaviour? You were supposed to nerf DS yet you made it stronger" and stuff like that.

Now, let's suppose I have a teammate who only knows how to gen-rush and even if he unhooks you, he is unwilling to heal you whatever the reason is, so you start completing a gen in hope that he heals you, but oh surprise the killer is ghostface and hit you. You can tell me "Then it was the other survivors fault, not the killer" which is not wrong BUT the killer in fact tunneled him so, as supposedly DS should be an anti-tunnel perk. Why should you get privated of the use of said perk?

Oh, and before you call someone entitled you might need to check that you´re not seeing the survivor point of view as well, so you're being a bit biased. I do agree it needs some sort of change but what might come as a clear idea it might be not if you think a bit more on it.

Also. The devs might be kind of irresponsable in some ways but is not only tweaking the perk, it's seeing if that "tweak" will be useful. If the new DS will bring the same headaches as this DS then Why bothering in changing i t?

P.S: I dislike the new Billy

@VSchmitt

Here is what I think you (and many others) don’t understand.

I get that you feel that it is unfair to get stunned when part of the perk’s purpose is to delay tunneling (I say delay because let’s face it, it doesn’t stop tunneling).

With that being said, tunneling isn’t as black and white as you might think. Just as much as it is sometimes unintentional to bump into the same survivor while you aren’t trying to. There are also cases where the killer left the hook, came back to the area seconds after and tracked down the general area where the recently unhooked survivor went... who now happens to have started a gen and who’s DS (if we went by your suggestion) has now deactivated.

I have actually experienced being in the middle of chase and as soon as someone gets unhooked the killer leaves. Survivor was healed only to see the icon at the bottom go injured again.

Just because you look the other way as a killer doesn’t mean that your intentions to take someone out ASAP aren’t there. Your job is to kill by whatever means necessary...and I think most survivors get that.

It doesn’t mean that they will not find a way to avoid being the only one predominantly chased, to the point it feels like it’s a 1v1 match. There is only so much the rest of the survivors can do to avoid that, because even taking hits doesn’t work, killer walks past them.

So, in conclusion I’m not saying anyone should feel like they have to play by any rules (survivor or killer) but I think that this is why the current DS is fair because the actual fair usage you get out of it outweighs the unfair instances. Which IMO are extremely rare, if you know how to play around it.

You are right but think about it from the devs perspective would you rather change a perk and get endless ######### for it on top of those people leaving which are your primary money makers or ignore the problem with a minority of people complaining but not leaving the game.

Tldr: devs have no reason to change the perk and nothing will happen if the devs don't since when the ruin changes came out of the blue the majority of killer mains didn't leave so why should they care?

I think the killer needs a Lightborn for DS analogue. It's easier than rebalancing DS.

We see here all the survivors saying that it's just because people want to "tunnel," ignoring the part where this change would completely annihilate tunneling. Ah, I'm sure it's not because the perk is super strong or anything. Nah, it's not one of the most picked perks because it's strong, it's not even that good! It's just to protect them from tunneling. Yeah, that's it. All four players are just getting so tunneled every match.

Mmhm.

Imagine a stealth killer, and you don't know they're coming back to tunnel you, your team mate who just saved you tries to heal you, oh no, no DS, killer is free to tunnel.

It's entirely unrealistic to disable a perk based on whether you start to heal, starting to heal DOES NOT mean you're not being tunneled, nor does doing a gen, especially when it comes to stealth killers.

DS just needs to deactivate once all gens are done. Cheap escapes cuz of DS are wack.

this for sure this is where it used the most where it the most broken.

@SenzuDuck Nods.

Thank you for making too much sense.

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The people that want it for anti-tunneling won't be affected by the change, just the ones that want to abuse it.

Because none of the complaints actually hold any weight. Pretty simple answer

I play killer as well as survivor and rarely get hit by DS. When I do, it's because I want to eat the DS on purpose to get it out the way and that's rare because I make it a point to not tunnel, even if it means leaving the match with a 2k or 3k.

I've also gotten plenty of 4ks and every adept killer achievement without tunneling so.... DS is really mainly an issue for people who tunnel.

And all this "it's 60 seconds of invincibility" nonsense is a blatant lie. The person who was unhooked can still be slugged. If you have a Mori, they can be Mori'd. If you're playing PH, they can be sent to a cage. Or you can simply force them to use the perk if you feel you have to go after that person instead of the 3 other people on the map. Either way, there's no invincibility. DS simply means that for those 60 seconds, they cannot be picked up and placed back on a hook and I think 60 second grace period is perfectly fine. I personally would use that time to heal but if they want to hop on gens, that's their perogative.

Peanits said he agreed that it should deactivate when you progress the game, like doing gens.

Guess we've seen different comments then.

"It's not an anti-tunnelling perk but only tunnelers get hit by it"

No, but nice survivor main rhetoric. Good stuff.

If a survivor jumps in a locker in my face, how exactly do I slug them? It's a stupid mechanic that is literally uncounterable.

And, as anyone who has played killer will say, 99% of the times I get hit by DS happen after I chase/hook another survivor.

But ya, salty tunneling killer *smile*