Why is Pig so hated?

It's a meme. The Pig kinda sucks. Comparatively she's pretty underpowered. She's not horrible or anything, but yeah, just people joking around.

I don't really think she is hated that much compared to other killers. Everyone wants to boop the snoot. My name in game is even Boops Piggy Snoots. I can see why some may not like her since if you get a trap on your head you have to go search boxes but really it's only a mild inconvenience.

She's loved and those threads are usually jokes. Or salty newbs who don't understand her power.

For any of those players, here's how to play against Pig 101: if a survivor goes down, best NOT complete that generator immediately.

1. Her RBT's ensure that a survivor stops focusing on doing gens and has to run around for up to 2 minutes trying to get it off of their head.
2. If they don't get the RBT off of their head before the timer runs out, it kills them.
3. Pig can bodyblock the jigsaw boxes to ensure an RBT will kill a survivor.
4. Jigsaw boxes skillchecks are affected by Unnerving presence.
5. She's stealthy.
6. If she has 2 or more survivors with ticking RBT's she can focus on the survivors doing gens instead which stops survivors from doing them efficiently, resulting in slowing the gen progress to a crawl, and hands her an easy win.
7. RBT's = same slowdown as "old" Ruin, except it can't be destroyed in the first minute of the match, and it's her base kit so it doesn't take up a perk slot.

"PiG OP, pLZ NeRf!"

I think it's because pugs are known to tunnel camp and focus out good loopers as they can completely ruin her game plan

Not hard to counter, just annoying to run around searching boxes.

As far as Im aware, the only reason people took issue with the pig was becauze of her traps. Traps that when gens were done started ticking down till death. It is literally to discourage gen rushing.

Problem is, since gen rushing is the favorite tactic (by gen rushing i mean ignoring totems and even igmoring unhooks unless overly blatantly safe) survivors have a tendency to get angry when they cant do a generator and instead have to remove traps.

This led to her biggest (and in my opinion uncalled for) nerf. The traps not activating when people leave through the exit gates with them. I understand it being bypassed for tje hatch, i disagree with it but i understand it. Making her traps not go off by the exit gates was a TREMENDOUS nerf and it makes the pig much less fun for me to play. The traps are supposed to be timewasters yes, but also they are supposed to feel urgent, threatening, something to that affect.

If noone has a ticking trap on them while there is only one gen undone the traps may as well do.nothing because after opening that exit gate theres no consequences for being lazy in removing traps.

I've only been playing a couple days and am only survivor rank 17, but it seems like Pig is the killer that consistently wipes out the survivors. What is the counter?

She's mainly just an M1 Killer. Just loop her and buy yourself a bunch of time, same as all M1 killers. She shouldn't really ever hit you with her ambush unless she's really good since it's a very poor ability. Her trap is annoying but if she puts one on you just go take it off while she's busy with someone else.

At rank 17 you're likely still not used to doing efficient loops or chaining tiles together and everything, that will come in time. Frankly at rank 17 the survivors barely touch generators and spend half the match crouched in corners because they're still scared of the killer, which is exactly what M1 killers want since they don't have any way to close distance without spending a lot of time chasing. If everyone is focused on doing gens and spreading out, it's gonna be really rough for the Pig.

I don’t hate Pig herself, but I can’t stand the way people play with her. She’s probably my #1 hated Killer to face because of that.

That's NEWER Pig players, and the least optimal way to play her. Something that I and a lot of other Pig players are trying to discourage a LOT as it both brings us down, similar to guilt by association, and it's generally just a terrible way to play.

Unfortunately the logic that goes into trap-tunnelling is also the very logic that I use against it: You know where that survivor will be and what they're doing. Trap-tunnellers use this as an excuse of them being vulnerable and easy to pick off, where I prefer to have a slow game and say that if you have an RBT, I can write you off from the match until it's removed so I can focus on the generators more. Coincidentally it also helps me avoid DS outright, and if I run into a trapped survivor, then I slug them. Eats Unbreakable too!

One thing that I also like to do @redsopine00 to deal with good loopers is to actually just try and ambush them instead, or go for a straight hook-trade if they are coming at me. That first hit can actually really throw off survivors, since you got it so easily from them.

Pig a stinky

Good luck

I used to enjoy playing Pig until they added delay before roar. Pig could oink very fast and funny if you spam m1 in ambush mode. Now she oinks awful because they inecreased time beetween roars.

OH... can I join in on that

It'll be a good way to show me how you play her (and possibly show you how I play her)

Oh, agreed. Free slug for pressure is a free slug for pressure. You just don't go out of your way to make that happen.

i for one hate her due to how her trap mechanics work.

its pure RNG whether you get the trap off or not, which in my opinion is just, simply put, really bad gamedesign.

i dont like to play AS her, due to how inconsistent the power is and i dont like to play AGAINST her due to how many times i timed out, just because RNG decided that the key was in the last box i checked and the killer happened to be around that area.

like, i dont learn anything from those scenarios, i cant improve in them and i cant do anything against it eigther. its just annoying.

she needs a complete rework in how her boxes work.

for example, why not spawn in 5 boxes by default but guarantee the key on the 4th box?

that way i, as the killer, know that the trap will be stalling them for some time while as a survivor i can judge how long its going to take me to remove it and make good decisions based on that.

the killer will also not be able to camp a box, due to me having two options when it comes to obtaining the key.

Where do you see these threads? Haven't seen such in a while and I generally only rarely see people complain about Pig so really not sure where you're coming from?

I can see that... (we are friends on Xbox)