Manners? Get rid of em..
Abandon this idea that you have to be nice to survivors because of some hidden rule.
If you camp. It is their job to do gens. Not yours to give up a free hook.
Sick of being treated like some play thing every game.
Survivors just get every thing to waste time. DS unbreakable dead hard bt. every game. how is that good design? How can the devs just ignore how stupid it is?
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Do i understand you right that you camp and you complain about DS unbreakable dead hard bt?
Those perks excist just for that reason.
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I'm not really sure the point of this threads is but I'll put in my two cents. During the game, play hard. Throw everything at the Survivors/Killer you have. Bring you best Perks. Camp, tunnel, or Mori if the situation demands it. You don't have to be nice to anyone during the game. The only rules are:
- Don't hack or use lag spikes.
- Don't disconnect; if you start a game finish it.
- Before and after the game be courteous and polite. We should be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.
That's it. I agree with the sentiment that this is a no holds bar PVP grudge match. I just want to make sure that before and after the game everyone is polite at a minimum, and ideally friendly. After all, we supposedly share a love for this hobby/game.
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Simple, on't tunnel or face camp and actually apply map pressure and BT / DS are immediately two wasted perk slots per Survivor giving the Killer a massive advantage.
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simple. just apply full map pressure on all gens. I'm glad my killers can teleport around the map.
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just apply full map pressure on all gens and survivors not all killers can do that so what the point in having all these killer if most are useless?
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On the one hand I totally agree that you should ignore any survivor that complains about camping and tunneling. It's all just sore losing honestly, pointing the blame for their loss at anything but themselves.
On the other hand camping a hook mid-game is usually bad strategy. If you're standing around twiddling your thumbs at a hook and all the other survivors are doing gens then the doors will be open by the time you get even two or three hooks. When the survivors don't come to you then you need to go to them.
"Tunneling" as defined by only chasing one survivor at a time until that survivor is down and then hooking them also can be a bad strategy if the survivor takes you too long to down. You need to be willing to break off chasing someone if you think it will take you a long time to hit them and instead go looking for people actively doing the gens or who are out of position to get a better opportunity. Chasing a lone survivor off in the middle of nowhere for a minute or two is a surefire way to lose.
Finally I'm always polite in aftergame chat (except when the survivors are rude and insulting in chat, then screw 'em.) No reason to not have manners in chat after a game.
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Yep. Because they always do and always will.
They want to be able to camp, but they want to judge you for bringing those perk combos.
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no. i'm judging the game for having a situation where everyone wants to run those. not the players. If the game wants to screw killers out of downs/kills because of second chance things, then there is no reason to have manners.
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You should also ignore killers who complain about ds and bt then.
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And what perks doyou run while survivin? And at what ranks? You dabble on both sides right? To better understand your quarry and see all pov's? It'll make ya a better killer and survivor.
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I’m a killer main so I don’t deal with sore losing killers in chat but yes, killers who complain about “gen rushing” and such are in the same camp basically.
Personally I don’t have an issue with Borrowed Time, it’s fine.
Decisive Strike is ok but it’s a bit silly that it doesn’t end once the survivor is actively working on gens. You can literally not be anywhere near the person when they are unhooked, they start doing a gen, meanwhile you chase and down and hook a totally different survivor over the next 45 seconds, see the first survivor working on a gen, down and pick him up and BAM DS! That one aspect of it seems to go against the idea that it’s protecting the survivor from being immediately rechased and rehooked after a rescue. Beyond that minor thing though I think DS is fine.
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Best comment I've seen on here in a long time!
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Why would you abandon them? Common courtesy should exist. If everybody could just share that belief, we'd be in a much better place.
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This sounds like a very "Mad cos bad" thread.
If you can't secure a kill without camping and then want to act like its the perks' fault, you really should just
-play more and gain experience
-try to learn a little, maybe watch a YT video
Camping only means you're just never going to learn any strats and are going to be dunked on every match you actually try anyway, so you're just going to stew in your current state out of spite instead of even attempting to better yourself.
And sure, nobody can stop you from camping or tunneling, but nobody owes you any respect for it and there's no glory in being hated for playing like a cheapwad because you'd rather do that instead of gain any actual skill.
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yeah lemme gain some "skill" against swf or high rank survivors with thousands of hours more than me. Lemme go chase one survivor for 3 minutes and have 4 gens done.
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I'm a killer main as well, but I use ds in every game as survivor, for two reasons. One, I can make plays in endgame that get everyone out, and two, I can not get tunneled out of the game. However, ds needs the following changes: the timer is 30 seconds long, but pauses in a chase, or while slugged, now the timer ticks down two times faster while on a gen. Bt needs these changes. Make it always, bc stealthy killers hard counter this perk, and make the survivor lose collision for 15 seconds to avoid bodyblocking. The killer can't hit you, and you phase right through them. If these are added, I think that both will be perfectly fine.
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Didnt word that too well my guy.
But I get your point. Idk why I would have to play a certain way because of what some survivor mains want.
I have no friends, and that's probably why.
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Personally I think the timer on DS at 60 seconds is ok but I'd recommend making it immediately end if the survivor does any gen or heal actions that require a skill check. (So tapping a gen for instance is ok, but sitting around long enough to get a skill check cancels the DS.)
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If you have to resort to face camping to even get one kill you are just plain bad man. Sad. I don’t even mind getting face camped I laugh my ass off when it happens cause it just tells me the killer is complete trash at the game.
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Here's a strange concept for you: if you are kind to others, usually they will be kind in return.
Survivors can have bad days too, and it's mainly because of mentalities like the kne you've posted.
As for the "typical" build you have there, no. Just no. I have DS on ONE of my 3 builds. You want to know what perks I use instead? SELF-CARE, Spine Chill, Lithe, Bond, Sprint Burst, Quick & Quiet, Dance with Me or one for whatever Archives mission I have.
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Thats a good idea as well.
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