Color blind options would be an advantage.
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Oh the HARDER THINGS. Is that a Stranger Things porn spinoff? IDC about that go way.
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So basically I won because you realized how stupid your argument was, we take those
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The irony is rich. Disingenuous is what describes this ENTIRE post but has nothing to do with me mentioning color blind at all. How exactly is me using that statement they made about it being an advantage somehow not sincere?
"You acknowledge it isn't truly level" Here, there is what you should look back on when you want an example of being disingenuous. It isn't the same thing and you know it. Yet here we are.
The average person could setup DBD cheats in one afternoon on a PC. How about next to IMPOSSIBLE for an Xbox player to do the same thing? thousands upon thousands of matches and I have never seen a single cheater. Yet we have all seen the speed hacker videos out there for PC.
You're guessing consoles will get up to PC standards with frame rate in one patch? Is that disingenuous/partial strawman argument or just blind hope based off of nothing? Sure dude. Things get broken in every patch. Bugs are left in game for several patches in a row. Yet console optimization with PC framerate is coming in a few weeks. Cmon....I can't wait to have our standard crappy framerate back. It will fix everything.
Yeah sure I will make a poll. So that every PC player and person like you who for some reason LOVE to take what I am saying out of context and or not actually read what I say. Can then leave us with TOTALLY legit results.
Here I will try as plain as I possibly can and I bet it still gets taken out of context or acted like it means something else.
All platforms in the crossplay should have the option to filter out the other platforms at their choosing. At the very least the consoles being able to filter out PC. THERE. Absolutely no one can say that isn't reasonable. There is legitimately not a single reason anybody would be opposed to that other than a PC player who is enjoying the watered down matches with console players who don't stand a chance against god tier Huntresses and Nurses.
I have played THREE huntresses from PC since crossplay started. In no particular order all 3 of them were the best I ever played against.
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So what your asking is to add a system where you can choose what platforms to opt out of playing with so everyone on console can turn pc off and kill the already non-existent matchmaking there? Maybe you should be asking for console keyboard and mouse support instead.
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You act like there’s just a plethora of nurse and huntress players when in reality there’s not that many. Quit blaming cross play for you not being good
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Stop crying about it and actually try and get better. Sorry you have to face actually good huntresses and nurses now like all the PC players do. It's not bhvrs fault no one plays them on console. Stating "I want cross play but only specific killers that I want to play against and only certain consoles" is the most entitled ######### imaginable. Get your head out of your ass.
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Clickbait title that has nothing to do with the actual post...
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RIP for colorblind players like me
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So re learn the entire game so we can BENEFIT PC players? What? We bought the game for console. What about our lesser playerbase when crossplay is turned off?
MKB support is really going to help when PC has vastly better visuals. Totally levels it out.
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The amount of CLUELESS people who respond to this post is priceless.
"not their fault they dont play those killers on console" its as if it goes over your head entirely why that is.
"Now you have to play good Nurses and Huntresses" again its like the reason why goes entirely over your head. Meanwhile having to play those good killers...at a permanent disadvantage?
The most entitled BS imaginable is PC players acting like having the option to filter them out would somehow be unreasonable. You not only have the nerve to act like you should be able to play at a permnanet advantage over console. But that you also somehow deserve to ruin the console experience in the process?
Its funny, not a single PC person has been real in this thread. Yet like I said earlier EVERY streamer talks about console players as if they're trash. Of course you PC players don't want to lose access to tons of players who can't reach your level.
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You really think switching to KB+M amounts to relearning the entire game? Even if I thought any if your points were made well (they weren't) you would have lost me there.
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So in your mind having up to 100+ frame rate isn't an advantage? To have sound options isn't an advantage? To have easy access to mods isn't an advantage? To have overall better visuals isn't an advantage? If the answer is NO then why exactly should I care what you think?
This is a funny thing that I am noticing happen here. Virtually every PC streamer talks as if console is terrible and so does their chats. Yet when it comes to terms of PC players possibly losing their advantage. Oh nooooooooooo its hardly any differen! There is no advantage!! At least stand firm on your BS beliefs instead of pretending to have other ones. That is the truly cowardice thing to do since that got mentioned in this topic.
I play on console I don't play video games on a PC. You really think that wouldn't be like learning something all over again? How can you possibly say that? Can the average human write with their non dominant hand as well as their dominant one? NO! and they are essentially the same thing.
I wonder what would happen if DBD suddenly found a way to drop MKB for terms of fairness and everyone had to use a controller. STRANGE I suspect massive backlash would ensue. Its almost like they would lose part of their advantage and it wouldn't even be ALL of the advantage.
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Bruh, I didn't say anything about anything that you mentioned there. I pointed out that switching to KB+M isn't exactly "relearning the entire game." I also never said any of your points weren't valid. I said they weren't well made. You're too concerned with standing on your soapbox and ranting about the unfair disadvantage you have to hear what anyone else is saying. Maybe rethink how you're presenting your argument and you'd receive better feedback.
Edit: punctuation, typo
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Im pretty sure you’re trolling as I doubt anyone could legitimately be quite as dense as you are and still manage to operate a keyboard.
In the off chance that you are serious, and have by some miracle managed to not render your setup inoperable by sheer incompetence I’ll explain it real slow for you.
Controller is arguably the better input method for survivors, it however worse for killer. But that doesn’t matter because you’re playing survivor. The game is balanced around keyboard and mouse, hence why nurse is never seen on console as she is fair on PC but is unusable on console.
This means that you are not at a disadvantage, you are simply facing killers that are actually able to play as properly intended and are not handicapped by a controller.
If you’d rather face easy opponents I’d refer you to some great arctic seal clubbing organizations, perhaps that would be more your speed.
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Your argument about mouse vs controller movement falls apart when you realize there are FPS players who do BETTER with controllers than some do with KBM.
So, the only advantage is personal preference and ability.
Unless you wanted to talk about framerates and input delay, but you didnt.
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I can understand the frame rate thing in not wanting to play against PC. As many others have said you can disable crossplay. I know you're gonna say "but my Q times!!!" I don't think you understand how that actually works. You aren't barred from playing with people that have it turned on if you have it off. You have the same pool of players that are on your console to match with so you're not any worse off than you were before. The people that keep it on just have faster times because they opted into a bigger pool of players.
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Don't go around calling anyone dense when you just made the dumbest statement of anybody in this topic. Matter fact its so dumb that I won't even engage with you.
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That's weird. How come colorblind mode would give an unfair advantage when every single E-sport competitive multiplayer game out there all got colorblind mode.. and none of the pros use it?
Its an excuse created by BHVR to not have to put in extra work, making something that'd be positive for their game.
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lmao so because a first person shooter has someone who prefers a controller. Somehow that becomes relevant to THIS game and makes the entire argument fall apart? There hasn't been a single person in this thread who operates outside of a 12 year olds "im right because I want to be " logic.
FFS. So by that laughable statement. MOST people here probably prefer controller right? Are you gonna be bold enough to make that OBVIOUSLY not true statement? The most hardcore console shooter players of all time could beat some average mkb guys. That completely undoes my argument of PC having better controls. LOL. On a totally different game no less.
Are you trying to be funny? How many times have I mentioned framerate in this thread? 50?
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Wow didn't know that learn five buttons on a mouse and keyboard, you don't have to "relearn the entire game" and that doesn't benefit pc players in the slightest, if anything keyboard and mouse support would be great for console because the amount of control you have over your movements compared to controller. My console friends would agree with me.
As for the visuals, don't play on crossplay if you feel someone having slightly better looking grass than you ruins the gameplay. Im sorry you'll have to sacrifice playing with your friends that have different consoles but the devs have never said anything about adding the ability to choose which platforms to play with (which again, would kill pc matchmaking even more) so I don't think it's ever going to happen
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So you disagreed with me when I said they should bring out KBM support on console because it would "benefit pc" yet here you say that it is a large advantage, I sense hypocrisy
Also I thinks it's very obvious what "the frames are an issue but that's on the devs" means, it means you need to find some way to get the devs attention with your issues, not the twenty people that this post reached
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I can't mess with people who have terrible reading comprehension and overall are just goofy.
Where else would be a better way to get the devs attention than people making multiple posts on a forum? Should I personally stalk them? lmao you're acting like posting on THEIR WEBSITE is the least likely way to get their attention or something.
Oh wait, you're friends would agree with you? whoa.
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Aww honey. You cant see how a mouse is LESS of an advantage in a game like this than in an fps?
My point is that it's not an oberwhelming advantage on actual precision games, so it's definitely not here. If controllers can beat kbm in those games, they can do it here.
Aka it wouldnt and isnt an advantage. Especially since this game is also NOT competetive.
But I guess context and comprehension are beyond you when you just want to rant and argue.
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Thats cute. You "awww" me and then essentially describe that it IS an advantage. While somehow having a point against me?
"My point is that it's not an OBERwhelming advantage on actual precision games, so definitely not here" So you're admitting its an advantage....lmao.
More awww moment. You bring up context and comprehension when your OWN post says its "not an overwhelming advantage". You realize that would mean its still an advantage right? Which makes this more hilarious. There are actually people goofy enough to make the claim that MKB has no advantage over a controller when its blatantly a more precise control option that uses much more of a persons ability to manipulate a physical object. Probably can't follow.
Precision? Well that's just where you're objectively wrong. Do better players not run loops more PRECISE than lesser players? Would being able to swiftly control movement with multiple fingers on your left hand and your ENTIRE RIGHT HAND not help in that processs?
Weird how come most of you PC guys don't switch to controllers if its apparently NO DIFFERENT? It would be easier to use and you could sit more comfortable. I guess its controller for the win.
Its funny I've already obliterated anyone trying to argue that MKB isn't an advantage and all anyone has to the contrary is. "No its not"
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Hmmm trying to get the devs attention by setting the title of this to something completely irrelevant to what you're talking about, great way for the devs to see it.
Even if they somehow managed to view this most of the people on this post disagree with your points or don't agree with the way they were stated. So I'm sorry Mr. Keyboard Warrior ( or should I say phone since you are complaining about pc players) but I don't see the devs listening to you.
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I'm gonna sound extremely biased here as a rank 1 pc survivor and killer, but here's my take:
The hardest games I've had as a survivor lately were when I was matched with three console players against a PC killer.
Similarly, the easiest games I've had as a killer lately were when I was matched against four console players.
There's definitely a divide in the communities that's easy to notice, at least at rank 1. I think it's because PC players have big hardware + control advantages but we have also already adapted to playing against PC killers as survivor. I think they just need more time to adapt although I know you can't just "overcome" lagging all the time, having poor FPS, latency issues, etc.
I can't speak for playing killer on console but the console killers seem to have an overall more difficult time cutting corners efficiently and aiming ranged abilities like plague spit, huntress hatchet, deathslinger gun, etc. That being said, I played against a really good rank 1 console myers a couple days ago so I know there are insane killers on console, it just seems more rare.
As for survivor, the biggest thing I notice is chase times. Console survivors seem to be extremely competent for the most part at healing, doing gens, unhooking, etc. The part where they lack is looping for extended chases, they usually go down pretty fast.
This is all just in my experience. Take it (or don't) for what you will.
edit: TL:DR: PC players seem to be a little bit better but there are a lot of factors and exceptions at play.
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I never said I was going out of my way to gain their attention. More people talking about it the more light gets shed on it so....thank you?
Oh and you mean to tell me the DBD community one of the most toxic playerbases in any game. On a website where likely 75% of the people posting are ON PC disagree with me wanting something that will no longer give them a benefit? Ya don't say.....
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THANK YOU. Finally a PC player who is willing to be honest about this and not try to deny something that is so blatantly obvious. I mean its the DBD community so I was expecting this to an extent. But the fact PC players are trying to act like there isn't even an advantage is just insane to me. With nearly all of them except for you willing to be honest about it.
I agree with everything you said except one thing. The part about getting used to play PC players. I think in terms of players who are competing and have a desire to well. The PC player will always hold the advantage in this area because they again have better controls and a better setup in...every...single...way possible.
Your post is real as it gets. Console players aren't nearly as good at looping because how much more swift movement can be on a mouse compared to a controller. Its much easier to adjust running against a barrier using a mouse controlled by your entire hand then a single joystick controlled by a thumb.
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I mean I've seen some console people disagree with you too
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You mean to tell me out of tens of thousands of people some of them will have horrible views? Whoa. If I make a poll right now about who the best killer in the game is within an a day nearly all killers will be selected. Pretty obvious the Clown isn't the best killer in the game but SOMEONE out there will think so.
A PC player wants their advantage to stay and obviously doesn't want a console player to have the ability to avoid them. For a console player to NOT want the ability to filter out PC if they want? As in the ability to keep it EXACTLY like it is now if they want. If they have a problem with that. They're just stupid and that's just being real.
More options=bad thing? In what reality?
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