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Community tier list survey

LiunUK
LiunUK Member Posts: 945
edited August 2020 in General Discussions

we all love tier lists but as we all know the ones made individually tend to be biased as hell based on the players experiences so i made one for the community to fill out.

S = Strong (you know who goes here)

A = Advantaged (killers with strong/oppressive powers but can still be played around)

B+ = Balanced but better (killers that are almost in A but are held back by one thing like maps/items/perks etc.)

B = Balanced (Can perform decently in almost every situation)

C = counterd (playable but has weaknesses)

D = Disadvantaged (for if you are a masochist or like being the underdog)

i will do a follow up post in a week tallying the results

please take this seriously and be aware it doesn't count multiple applications from them same device

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  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    over 50 views but only 9 have done the tier list? *sad demo noises*

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    That's actually quite a good idea. It won't really be accurate, but it'll at least show overall concepts. And, perhaps, highlight reasons behind the decisions.

  • cheetocultleader
    cheetocultleader Member Posts: 1,262

    Looking forward to seeing the results. Tier lists are often pretty biased, and I think tend to swing with bigger streamer's opinions too. For instance, I give Pig a B+. I know most are gonna throw her into C or D though.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    Gave my answers. Hope no one gives killers D tier since no killer deserves to be there. Every killer in this game is at least C tier if played by a good player.

  • cheetocultleader
    cheetocultleader Member Posts: 1,262

    Agreed. There's even one streamer I like a lot, but swears up and down she's just not good. Yet if we go see how Scorpion does with her, he proves otherwise.

    I don't think everyone is going to be good with every killer. Pig is just pretty different.

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    She is. She's also the perfect counter to the current survivor meta.

    And your streamer sounds terrible. I've demolished teams with her without breaking a sweat!

  • IIITweedleIII
    IIITweedleIII Member Posts: 1,013

    I never understood these rank tiers. To each their own but. If I cared about grades. I'd go back to school. 🥴

    (No dis. Just wanted to make a school reference joke... carry on)

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945
  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    true, but there are limits to how well you can do based on what killer you play as due to power limitations ie. a good clown vs an ok clown is not that big of a difference as the power is so one dimensional whilst a good trapper vs an ok trapper has a much larger difference. and besides this is more about the peoples general opinions on killers not the actual performances of each killers with there best perks and addons.

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    we have hit the 50 milestone

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,122

    Submitted one. I look forward to seeing the results of this.

  • thelittlemonsters
    thelittlemonsters Member Posts: 97

    I’m really excited to see how they end up ranked.

    Every killer is viable in every rank, so if there’s a new player that wandered in, don’t be discouraged by what people say about any killers.

    Some killers just don’t have as much going for them as others so need some assistance from specific types of perks. Clown and gen pressure for instance.

  • SpicyGBurrito
    SpicyGBurrito Member Posts: 2

    Just did it now, answered based on my own experiences of using and going against each killer

  • APoipleTurtle
    APoipleTurtle Member Posts: 1,274

    Would it be fair to assume that this tier list is based on playing as/against these killers on relatively balanced/non-biased maps (such as Coal Tower)?

    Because even the strongest killers in the game have some maps where their powers are either useless, or so glitchy as to be useless (think Nurse on Yamaoka/Midwich, Hillbilly on Lery's, or Wraith on Blood Lodge).

    Or the opposite; some killers can be extra-oppressive on maps that allow them to use their powers more freely (Oni on Rotten Fields, Doctor on The Game, or Huntress on Temple of Purgation).

  • SCP_FOR_DBD
    SCP_FOR_DBD Member Posts: 2,416

    Response recorded, I'm interested to see how this works.

  • CashelP14
    CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,564

    The problem is people base their tiers off a few factors so it's hard to make a proper tier list without any rules. I always consider a killers tier based off a good killer playing them, with their best perks. Some others base it off best add-ons included or no perks and add-ons.

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    this tier list is purely based on your general opinions you can base them on high rank if you want or on how much you like them

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    260 views and only 75 votes? *super sad demo noises*

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    over 100 votes :D

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    I agree, I play Jigsaw a lot and when I read some complains like "RBTs are crap they never kill people" I cant help it but facepalm hard. She is very RNG dependant tho, bad RNG and you got a problem, good RNG and Survivors got a problem, decent RNG its a fair match.

  • ZtarShot
    ZtarShot Member Posts: 838

    So whens the follow-up

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    I got one of my brothers to do this and he put Pig in C. I wanted to slap him so hard.


    "Just a worse Ghostface." What a joke.

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    i said in a weeks time. it will come out on wednesday the 2nd

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    we have hit 150 votes :D

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130

    Here is my ranking based on my play style as killer & as a survivor with personal opinion ,play skills and going against said killer as a solo with 1 friend maximum with randoms....randoms will cause this to be strewed vs as a swf simce i dont play with a full swf(1st at top is trapper btw)


  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130
  • Uistreel
    Uistreel Member Posts: 634
    edited August 2020

    Is this based on how much you like them and their playstyle or is this genuinely how powerful you think they are?

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130
    edited August 2020

    Just my opinion overall as mentioned?

    Combination of playstyle,how powerful they are,how often i run against them and survival rate and how i fair using and going against.

    Example is huntress

    I dont like huntress and only use for rituals but i use op perks and i survive and i feel i survive 50/50

    Another example is michael as i love to run tombstone

    But i favor death than surviving against when running against

    3rd example As trapper i just run through people left and right and i feel more favor as surviving against

    4th example is pig,im pretty good all the way around but can 4k easily with my style

    Now with all that said with all 4 i see more trapper of the 4 but not many tombstone michaels....may be hard to see my views but its jmo

  • NursesBootie
    NursesBootie Member Posts: 2,159

    I rated! I'm burnin to read the results.

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130
    edited August 2020

    My reply got deleted or something so here it is again (but longer)

    Combination of playstyle,how powerful they are,how often i run against them and survival rate and how i fair using

    Examples are

    Trapper...i rekt people with agitation,iron grasp,mad grip(sometimes with trail of tormemt but is genrally how i feel) with purple bar and purple bag and placem in basement..i favor suvival slightly depending on randoms,if i die its because of something not accounted for.i see trapper quite abit and perks used with trapper are pretty wide ranged

    Huntress..i dont really like huntress because playstyle and i only use op perks(purple belt+ird),i usaully just play her for just rituals unless on a whim to change it up and i favor 50% survive and death depending on add ons and i see the huntress somewhat more than others

    Michael.. i pretty much use tombstone michael but can use other perks and i know how to use imo but i favor survival going against but the randos usaully die :/

    Pig,...im pretty good as pig but dont use her as much and i favor survival against.dont see her much either

    Oni/nurse.... i dont like anything basically,i skip rituals and the amount of times i played against is probaly the least favoring nurse but i favor survival big time

    ....i find oni hard far as escaping after a hit..almost like a 1 trick pony

    Its jmo based on my viewpoints stated,someone could completely say the opposite but isnt this what the poll is about

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    we hit 200 votes let's keep the ball rolling

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    i must say the current results i have got are interesting as hell

  • ReSpEcTtHe4PeRcEnT
    ReSpEcTtHe4PeRcEnT Member Posts: 67

    I filled it in based on how I feel how hard each killer is to win against as survivor when they're good. I'm curious for the results.

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    4 days left to make your vote

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    I did a similar thing. Hard to verse/ease of a 4k. Primarily focused around base kit, but small leniency for killers like Wraith who need add-ons/improved out of sight by them.

  • ZCerebrate
    ZCerebrate Member Posts: 641

    I did this assuming that complete gameplay changing addons like Iris head+Infantry belt Huntress, Double Iris Piece Doctor, Fragrant Tuft Tombstone Meyers or Yaku Amulet+Mother/Daughter Ring Spirit were off the table on an average sized killer sided outdoor map. Of course it's personal preference but I can back up my claims for the most part even if the most popular streamers and gamers might disagree with my assessments. I also tried to use the entire tier list meaning D tier is still viable but slightly weaker than those killers above them, if I wanted to be "fair" to each killer then I would've been forced to only use S through B+ which homogenizes the tiers.


    S Tier - Oni, Executioner, Spirit

    A Tier - Cannibal, Hillbilly, Huntress, Hag, Nightmare, Nurse

    B+ Tier - Deathslinger, Plague, Legion, Ghostface, Shape

    B Tier - Demogorgon, Doctor, Wraith

    C Tier - Pig, Trapper

    D Tier - Clown

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130

    *In legion sammination voice*O BOY

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130

    How did oni get there?i rarely play oni but most are good with him from what i seen so what do you use as oni

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    250 votes on our tier list

  • ChiTenshi
    ChiTenshi Member Posts: 877

    Call me a stickler, but I think the tier descriptions need a little redoing.

    I'm reading them, but struggling to fit Killers into them.

    Example, "C = counterd (playable but has weaknesses)"; I thought most Killers have weaknesses? Or is this a tier where the weaknesses start to outweigh the strengths?

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    c is where there counterd to the point where there power does not matter in the long run, the killer can perform ok but there power has a built in down side or there is a strategy that survivors can easily do in most matches to deal with there power. like how with trapper you can just disarm his traps and he becomes a plain m1 killer

  • ZCerebrate
    ZCerebrate Member Posts: 641
    edited August 2020

    I used to rank Insta Saw Billy up there with Omega Blink Nurse back in the day since getting sawed in half when the exact situation today would at best result in an M1 is ridiculously strong.

    Current Oni running the Green Addon Scalped Topknot (Reduces Demon Dash charge from 2s to 1s - which is MASSIVE if you consider many other killer's run things that reduce windups by as little as .25seconds) makes him able to smash survivors with even minimal mind gaming space - the window for a survivor to escape the bat is VERY slim to nonexistent especially if the Oni knows how to Flick and understand his ranges. Combine that with a purple addon Lion Fang for maximum Blood Fury duration (You can even get away with the other duration increasing addons too) and your ONLY condition is to get that initial ball rolling by hitting survivors.

    The non-heal meta to try and power gens actually helps you maintain your snowball and tracking even better - reaching a critical state of blood orbs where you just constantly have your fury up. Forcing survivors to heal actually plays into your snowballing as well since demon bat instant downs is even more valuable if they spent time healing one another. It's a no-win situation unless they completely shut you down from the start by preventing a single wound while you're a basic M1 killer.

    The thing is even if the survivors do an amazing job and split and do generators AT best you have 2.5~3 gens done before you start your first power if you are playing properly - if you are running these two addons it's actually very possible to end even the most coordinated teams (albeit quite a bit harder) and generate additional power.

    The only real way a great Oni loses matches are unfavorable indoor map conditions with verticality (though not impossible), basically going into the 3.5~4.5 gens done stage before getting any sort of snowball rolling in which case it's just too late no matter if you can end chases within seconds or not. Unbreakable + DS is powerful but literally will not result in situations where you can't just gather more blood and wreck them over and over again once. Now move onto the average team? They don't even know what happened when the entire team is on hooks while they barely finished 1~2 gens.

    Last thing for perks: Infectious Fright (Cannot be replaced - the value of this is too high on making the most of Blood Fury). I personally always run Pop goes the Weasel over Hex: Ruin due to RNG of totem placement - do not run Surge as it does not work with your Demon Bat. Corrupt Intervention to increase your chances to start your ball rolling (The competitive counterplay against Oni running this perk is to just fully immerse all 4 survivors until this runs out but your matchmaking games WILL NOT do this 99% of the time), M&A is a popular alternative here though I personally don't use it. The last one I prefer running Whispers but this requires good spatial awareness of ingame distances to be the best. Discordance is the popular alternative for this to keep a good tab on what to pressure - down near there Pop after the hook.

    P.S. Obviously there is personal bias here but while Stridor Spirit and even PH is easier to use than him - Oni rivals them for top tier for me with a higher skill floor.

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    2 more days until the survey is closed and the results are posted, make your vote while you can

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    275 responses, can we hit 300?

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 945

    tomorrow i will make a post with the results, this is your last chance to contribute to the tier list