Why is “respect the 4%” a thing?

@Zanfer said:

@Brady said:
What you did was fine. You did respect the 4%. He even got back to full health so like...

Disrespecting the 4% would be considered watching the person (facecamping) until they have every failed attempt gone, and if they do Kobe off the hook you instantly down them instead and just rehook to ruin any chance they got.

inb4 "Killers don't have to do #########" comments, let me just say, you're defeating the entire purpose of that luck 4% and being able to possibly escape on SUCH A SLIM CHANCE THAT ONLY HAPPENS 4% OF THE TIME. It's a low chance to begin with, and it's a dick move if you purposely facecamp just to make sure every chance they got is gone. It's not saying you can't do it, you most certainly can, but man even I wouldn't be a dick enough to do that.

The killer doesn't have to respect #########. He is there to kill the survivors that are trying to survive. Just because you got lucky and pulled your self off the hook doesn't mean you get away scot free. The killer is suppose to kill you just remember that big component to the game that clearly flew over your head..

. "It's not saying you can't do it, you most certainly can,"

LOL I literally said that

My point was it's just a dick move if you really just stand there making sure they're completely #########. I'm not saying you can't do it, what kind of made up rule is that?

Stop being so defensive.....

It's probably a very old meme because I see several known streamers do that. Honestly I find it silly. Respect my 96% and go back on the hook!

@Wolf74 Those aren't so much survivor rules as they are personal rules imposed on themselves by killers who like to be kind. Any survivor who expects most of those is being unreasonable, because they're asking the killer to not play the game properly in essence. Although the first two of those are really unsportsmanlike and in my experience are only employed by killers who aren't good at the game or get triggered easily, the others are things no rational survivor would have a problem with. Sure the 4% thing sucks when you actually get it and then get put back on the hook, but if a killer does any of the last 5 things on that list I consider it a bonus of him being nice, not something I am entitled to.

@Fibijean said:
@Wolf74 Those aren't so much survivor rules as they are personal rules imposed on themselves by killers who like to be kind. Any survivor who expects most of those is being unreasonable, because they're asking the killer to not play the game properly in essence. Although the first two of those are really unsportsmanlike and in my experience are only employed by killers who aren't good at the game or get triggered easily, the others are things no rational survivor would have a problem with. Sure the 4% thing sucks when you actually get it and then get put back on the hook, but if a killer does any of the last 5 things on that list I consider it a bonus of him being nice, not something I am entitled to.

i'm not good at the game. not on any scale really.... but i do i consider myself a kind killer. i play as fairly as i possibly can. i'm not motivated by points and rank. i just play to have a good time. the important thing to remember (for me anyway) is that the survivors are ppl having a good time too. i'm not gonna purposely take the fun outta the game just because i have that option.... i know eventually i'll be good at the game. but in the meantime, theres no reason to be a sweaty tryhard.... you have look past the ranking and the bloodpoints. theres is a vast difference between ppl who play to win and ppl who play like winners.... so even if i get wrecked, i know i played like a winner....

@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
Wolf74 said:

Survivor came up with some weird "code of conduct" how killer should play.

-Don't camp

-Don't tunnel

-Let the last one escape

-Respect kobe (4%)

-Don't use Noed

-Don't use Insidious

-Don't use the basement

Nowadays they are just social tools to use peer pressure to shame killer player into playing stupid and giving easy wins.

Also don’t use Franklins 
And don’t patrol gens
Hey don’t protect your hex totems
Why aren’t my flashlights working? Oh you’re using Lightborn, how dare you!

Hell, I’ve had survivors complain that I pick them up facing walls so their friends can’t blind me lol.

Why is everyone forgetting stuff? You forgot:

If a survivor burns a Blood Party Streamer you aren't allowed to kill them
You have to let survivors hit you with a pallet, no faking hits
If you kill all 4 people you're a noob so don't kill anyone
If you don't kill anyone you're a noob so kill all 4
If you don't camp then in after game chat they're allowed to say "BRUH U SHULDVE CAMPEDED"
Make sure not to knock someone down and leave them there, you must pick them up the second you knock them down no matter how many toxic flashlight survivors they have

@deadwolfwalking said:

@Fibijean said:
@Wolf74 Those aren't so much survivor rules as they are personal rules imposed on themselves by killers who like to be kind. Any survivor who expects most of those is being unreasonable, because they're asking the killer to not play the game properly in essence. Although the first two of those are really unsportsmanlike and in my experience are only employed by killers who aren't good at the game or get triggered easily, the others are things no rational survivor would have a problem with. Sure the 4% thing sucks when you actually get it and then get put back on the hook, but if a killer does any of the last 5 things on that list I consider it a bonus of him being nice, not something I am entitled to.

i'm not good at the game. not on any scale really.... but i do i consider myself a kind killer. i play as fairly as i possibly can. i'm not motivated by points and rank. i just play to have a good time. the important thing to remember (for me anyway) is that the survivors are ppl having a good time too. i'm not gonna purposely take the fun outta the game just because i have that option.... i know eventually i'll be good at the game. but in the meantime, theres no reason to be a sweaty tryhard.... you have look past the ranking and the bloodpoints. theres is a vast difference between ppl who play to win and ppl who play like winners.... so even if i get wrecked, i know i played like a winner....

@Fibijean said:
@Wolf74 I am a killer player and a survivor player. I play killer to have fun, not for ranks or points, which I suppose is where the difference comes in. Camping and tunneling are unsportsmanlike, because they're not giving everyone a fair go, and it's deliberately making the game unfun for other people. You might say that the balance issues don't give everyone a "fair go", but that's not within our control. What I can control is whether I play the game fairly, doing my best to ensure that it's fun for me and for everyone else. I do that when I play as survivor as well. In short, I am 100% on board with everything @deadwolfwalking said. Yes, everything on that list is a legitimate strategy. Yes, it sucks that some survivors rage when killers aren't doing anything wrong and give the rest of us a bad name. And yes, the killers are just "doing their job". But if you're the sort of person who doesn't just care about yourself, there are more important things than "doing your job", like being a good sport so that everyone can enjoy the game together, fostering a dynamic of friendly competition rather than aggression and hostility.

With these two. Sure, 'winning' is fun. But ruining the chance the other party has, even if they aren't the nicest people, isn't really 'fun'.
I prefer giving everyone a chance. They fail, they failed.
They make it work, they made it work.
One good way to balance Flashlights would be either making it so only one flashlight can come before the start of the trial, or let killers have passive adapting powers (5 flashlights at max)

@Wolf74 I consider camping and tunneling something bad killers do to try to get a win. I don't believe the game was designed for one player to get screwed and be out of the game in less than 2 minutes just because he was seen first. That being said, if a killer is against a good survivor team he will ensure his own loss and low blood point total if the survivors sit on gens instead of crouching around the hooked survivor. The main problem is that it's unlikely anyone will pip in this situation (unless the survivors all get caught and go out the same way). Camping and tunneling are fun for no one. Hooking, unhooking, healing, running, stalking and mind games are fun for everyone. I'm not asking any killer to allow survivors to win, I just want them to play the game the way it was meant and designed to be played. If camping and tunneling were things that were meant to happen...you'd get huge bonuses for doing them. What you actually get instead is a safe pip if your lucky, a pitiful amount of blood points, and everyone had a boring game...including the killer.

@SaltyKiller You'd have my attention if you said, "Get rid of Decisive Strike". I'd be all for that. Giving us one anecdotal story about something that happened to you one time is sad. You literally want them to change the entire game because of something that happened to you once? Get a grip man.

I like all this salt from killer mains, who claim survivors are entitled by bringing up all these "rules" they made, but failed to mention killers do the same. Killers are like:

• Don't bring a flashlight
• If you flashlight save, you are getting camped, so never do it
• Never pallet save
• Don't use instant-healts
• Don't use Self-care, Borrowed Time, Decisive Strike or Sprint Burst
• Don't pallet loop
• Don't 360
• Don't rush gens

And more. Just so you know, I play both killer and survivor, but entitlement goes both ways. I suggest you take a good look in the mirror before starting to point at who you think is entitled. Survivors do not owe you anything either.

Toxicity exists on both sides and as long as everybody on one side does it, the other will as well. For every game where you tunnel, camp, etc there will be a game where all survivors run SB, DS, BT and SC, all with BNPs. Simply put, two can play the toxic game, neither side is entitled to anything.

@SaltyKiller said:

@Swiftblade131 said:
Feel free, to add to this document of survivor rules

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1voGlXvx2WIRi5iJIKOWcQIrAM4nBO30M_1OB0Ry_X50/edit?usp=sharing

So that us killers know when we are in the wrong and went to adjust ourselves to make sure, that your fun and comfort levels are at a peak 100%

I'll save you the trouble and all of their rules can be summed up in one image:

Lul, but where is the fun in that?

@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
I had a game recently on the corn fields where a guy was hooked, I was chasing the last person down, and he Kobe’d off. They had only a smidgen of one gen left to do, so before I could even pick the person up I’d downed, he completed it, and got Adrenaline to get back to fully healed. 

So instead of picking the person up, I went towards the gen that popped. I eventually caught him, downed him, and hooked him again. They all died, 4 player SWF, and after the match they invite me to an XBL party and proceed to ######### on me for not “respecting the 4%”. 

Depending on how a game is going, if I see someone 4%, I might not chase them. But to what end are you supposed to reward survivors for being lucky? He didn’t get tunneled, he even got back to full health. Am I supposed to let him heal and escape?

I’ve played over 1,000 hours, mostly killer, and there are a lot of just plain stupid unwritten rules survivors have, but this one is the most bizarre to me.

Literally 2 words, "Entitled Survivors" just ignore them and kill that's the killers job.

It's not a thing. A survivor should attempt to kobe at the right time so to not get smacked right after the unhook.

@danvain
Balance by using a perk doesn't solve the core problem.
Say there a 5 core problems. You only have 4 perk slots.
See the issue? Which is........ a core problem......badm tis....sorry had to.....or rather....Baddham tis is dumb

Sounds like another unwritten rule by Survivors. I have no respect if you managed to pull yourself off the hook, however I HAVE respect for the survivor who pulls himself off the hook and lives to tell the tale.