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What you think of Plague

Hello, what you think ?


Infection are annoying for the survivors, i think it's like the mechanic of Pig, lose time survivor..

Comments

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    She needs some minor tweaks. Her purge travels a little too slow to be any good outside of very, very short range, and her guaranteed fountain needs to be centralised instead of in the corner of the map. If the hit validation fixes her robbed purges, she'll be one of the better killers.

  • tactic
    tactic Member Posts: 356

    she's a lot of fun to play, even though her vomit angle is currently bugged.

    I wouldn't say she's weak but she could be stronger (and possibly have counterplay that isn't just "don't cleanse")

  • Withered8
    Withered8 Member Posts: 1,255

    I enjoy her, I usually cleanse now as its funner vsing a plague with their power. If survivors dont cleanse though i wouldnt say it nescaserily weakens her. She's still got an insta down, stridor a million and can always grab her free fountain if she ever needs. Monitor can be very dirty with her.

  • Jill10230
    Jill10230 Member Posts: 475

    I wonder how long the infection lasts on the objects, and how long addons are added?

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 6,865

    She is pretty weak... and her cosmetics are very not horror.

    She needs a nun cosmetic.

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001

    She is a great snowballer, other than that Idk what to say, she is fun, she is strong but a mistake like going for a fountain can make you lose.

    I just hate the new animation so much that I currently can't play her.

  • 28_stabs
    28_stabs Member Posts: 1,470

    Good killer. If you dont like her design, dont play her tho.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,028

    She is good, I find her kinda boring to play tho.

  • Jill10230
    Jill10230 Member Posts: 475

    A bit risky for the survivor... So she makes a killer capable of putting pressure on them.


    I wonder how long the infection lasts on the objects, and how long addons are added?

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    Powerful.

    Don't cleanse, visual and auditory clues thanks to being sick, not to mention being '' exposed'' the whole time

    Cleanse, get ready to die.

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    Spray and pray, just spray and pray and it works most of the time.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    First, no it doesn't. Not even in the open. Secondly, the fact that her power, no matter what you do or how you play, only works "most of the time" is her core issue. Even ignoring the robs, survivors really do have the option to just avoid her purge, all they need is a maze tile and, for the most, you're an m1 killer just because you're only options are looping it as a 110 killer with very slow projectiles or as a 115 killer with a hefty windup and slow projectiles.

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    Wait... she is a 115% killer... Also because of how her projectile arc works you can often hit survivors that are behind walls...

    Were you trying to hit survivors while looking at them and not at the sky?

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Because carpet bombing tiles doesn't work against good survivors. It's a noobstomp technique, like Hit-And-Run stealth killers

  • Desh
    Desh Member Posts: 1,118

    You run into 2 types of groups as Plague. People who choose not to cleanse and people who cleanse the second they get infected. And that majorly affects what your build is going to be for her. Since I'm at Rank 1, I expect people not to cleanse. So I run perks like Thana / DL / Blood Echo / optional 4th perk to either force Gen slow down or force them to cleanse to allow me to switch to corrupt purge.

    Problem is I just played her yesterday. Before that, I haven't played her since they changed how her projectile is. So the arc through me for a loop for the first few throws.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Also, when you hold her purge at max you move at about 110 speed

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    When used correctly it does...

    Also... did you just said that hit & run as stealth killers is only a noob stomper... It's like... one of the best strategies, if people heal then they get hit via nurses, if they dont they get hit on gens... You only need to avoid the trap of overfocusing on hit and run and never focusing on a single chase, its hard because you have to know all the tiles well.

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    Ok... if you are holding her purge then you really don't know how to play her...

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Okay, you need to go against more good teams. Both of those tactics only work against bad survivors. Against a Plague with corrupt purge, good survivors hug the walls and you cannot hit them over, because even if to get a perfect angle they can move out of the way. It may seem like a skillful stratagey from the Plagues end... But it's not effective.

    And Hit-And-Run is only good IF the survivors decide to heal. When good survivors see Sloppy on a stealth killer, they are just going to do gens and you're done for. Injured against a stealth killer? That's not as scary as people think, given that you can see all of them coming and/or they waste far too much time getting a good angle (or, more likely, trying and failing too due to no fault of the killers) and you and your team get that much more gen time. Spread out, do gens, play safe, killer is screwed. Not so effective.

    Plague, Ghostface. Two of my absolute favourite killers. I know their tricks, their weaknesses, their bugs and their tactics. I know tiles, I know how to play them as those two. I know the stalking angles, the purge angles, the delightfully sneaky hits you can get, and above all else I know how to avoid them thanks to people doing it to me.

    Oh, and by the way, hit and run is considered one of the easiest tactics there is, and for good reason. No mechanical skill, limited tactical skill ceiling. It's why I started playing Stalky Ghostface in the first place.

  • Teethgrinder83
    Teethgrinder83 Member Posts: 99

    I think she's fun to play but I don't play her loads (which is why I'm terrible with her lol), I do wish that cancelling your purge didn't slow you down so much though, or at least it feels like she's slowed down a lot

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    First of all hint and run is easy to learn but hard to master. You need to properly fake leaving the survivors, mix your paths, know on which tiles chase and when to force a pallet drop or even get a second hit quick enough.

    But number one rule... DONT USE THE FECKING SLOPPY, ITS NOT WORTH IT! If you are using it then you are bad at hit and run and you have a long way to master it, so it will work against weak but it won't work against good teams.


    When it comes to plague, if they hug the wall, then they don't gain distance, so you should get hit or a proper range to puke soon. Her problem isnt chasing but that she is typical 115% killer who slowly walk towards gens.

    Ive could really say more specific info about certain wall tiles, like what to do on LT wall, what to do on LI with pallet... but im not interested in arguing with someone, who holds their puke... which is number one on what NOT to do.

  • BubbaMain64
    BubbaMain64 Member Posts: 546

    I've been playing her a lot recently and she's really fun. I think she needs tweak like fountains being more centralized and remove the auto corrupt purge mechanic when all fountains are used. Also faster projectile speeds and remove the slowdown after vomiting.

  • Kyxlect
    Kyxlect Member Posts: 230

    From a casual standpoint I like her. She's unique in it that she spreads disease. When I first started playing her I enjoyed vomiting on people a little too much. It was so funny though!

    I can't really comment from a serious perspective because I haven't gotten around to playing her enough.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    She's pretty rough to play as.

    Against good survivors the 1 hit down doesn't mean much as you're extremely tall, large TR, and have nothing to help you in loops. There are enough pallets and windows to last 5 gens. Especially seeing as you're getting gen rushed because they aren't wasting time with healing or totems.

    If they cleanse then you're slightly better, however people over react about how good her corrupt purge is. It's a slow channel, with a slow travel time and high arc. Meaning it's still quite easy to loop a Plague that has it. It only really becomes devastating out in the open. Which as I said before, she's got a large TR so how is she catching you off guard in the open anyway? People also completely underestimate how punishing it is to have to pick up the pools. Many are way out of the way making you waste a lot of time. You also are rarely having one in front of you mid chase, so you're typically giving the entire team a long heads up that you picked it up.

    Honestly she could be fixed by some quality of life improvements.

    -Get rid of the slowdown after puke cancel

    -Make puking on a gen with either puke count as a kick to start regression. (She's already extremely gen rushed because of no healing or totems so this gives her a little saved time)

    -Give her a 2m reduced TR per survivor fully infected. Makes her a little more scary if everyone refuses to heal without giving her anything "anti-fun" like gen slow down.

    -Lower the minimum amount she has to channel for some puke to come out, even if it's a very little amount she releases. (requires you to have better aim as it's a smaller amount anyway)

    These are all not extremely big changes, so most of them are more quality of life stuff, but I think they would make her a bit more enjoyable to play.

  • bgbomb
    bgbomb Member Posts: 434

    totally useless.

    You need as much set up time as MM forever tier3.

    but they can just drink a water in 3 sec then all you work turn in to nothing.

    and even more they would get a free health state by doing that.

    and the red puke is a joke.

    the flying speed is too slow.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    My random internet person, you clearly have no idea how to play Plague. Perhaps you should consider putting in a few hundred hours to learn her ins and outs instead of relying on lazy and ineffective tactics. And... Oh, wait, hugging walls is the way people normally run tiles and it actually makes them more distance die to hitbox sizes? Who would have thought? Golly gosh gee.

    "Number one thing not to do..." Yeah, sure bud. You know better than me, mister Spray'N'Pray.

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744
    edited August 2020

    In my honest opinion the one mistake they made with her on the ptb was adding this to her kit this was a silly and unneeded change i remember playing her on ptb and then boom they added this in because i guess people felt she was to "strong" boy how they were wrong kinda wish they would revert this if clown and freddy and run around using their power with no punishment plague should be able to do the same tbh.


    "Slightly reduced The Plague movement Speed while fully charged and holding Vile Purge and Corrupt Purge. "


    Time is a big thing in dead by daylight and the distance a survivor gets off this alone is problematic enough to make plague a very weak killer compared to the higher tier killers removing the slowdown would help her a lot.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652

    Survivors control her too much imo

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183

    Well... if you hug a wall on one loop instead of running to the next one, when you can, usually make you loose distance.

    And still spray and pray is just easier than pixel accurate aiming like on deathslinger, not to mention that it makes dh useless against you.

    And... holding puke is bad, just like holding the hatchet on the huntress, aiming with deathslinger or holding sweep with demo.

    And trust me, i know how to play her on any map except larys where roofs are so low, that your puke range is just terrible.

    And maybe PH map because i don't really see this map (thank you rng for that)

  • Jill10230
    Jill10230 Member Posts: 475

    I played it, I changed it right away. I can't do it, they don't give a damn about the infection.🤣

  • KingFrost
    KingFrost Member Posts: 3,014

    I hate when other survivors cleanse against her when I spend the entire game not cleansing, then I get hit by the vile purge cause they cleansed.