Hatch complaining.

The problem is the mentality of players in this game. This "I have to 4K" or "I have to survive" is just stupid. Yeah, of course you dont think that you will lose this game when you start it, it would be dumb to play or enjoy a game where you think all the time that you are losing, but thinking that you deserve to win (whatever a win is), is equally dumb.

From the Killers side it is sometimes brought up with "I am the Power Role" or "I am supposed to be the Power Role", which is again, not relevant at all, since it is a Multiplayer Onlinegame and this means that both sides should have (and have) the chance to win a game.

That being sad, the part "The worst Survivor gets the Hatch" is also nonsense. It could be easily possible that the guy who gets the Hatch is the one who did the most for the team. Yes, it could be someone who was hiding all game, but it also could be someone the Killer was not able to catch. At the very least, he avoided the Killer to get the Hatch.

And even IF that guy is the worst Survivor - what does it matter to the Killer? Do Killers feel some injustice and want to help the other Survivors (who got killed) by also killing the last one, who played badly? Like, if anyone should get pissed that this guy gets the Hatch, it should be the Survivors, but not the Killers concern.

If players would just see this game as a game and not as some competition, it is a party game, a casual game. No reason to make it competitive.

Something that is heavily RNG isn't a crutch. The killer got screwed by RNG. As you said, RNG can be a #########.

And no, my scenario is exactly the same scenario that you described, only for killers; the elusive survivor that completely earned his escape yet can't because the exit gates spawned within eyesight of each other.

This just in: Killers aren't entitled to a 4k and survivors aren't entitled to an escape.

It's funny to see you talking about the killer - like they're SUPPOSED to care about the survivors and what they think/want.

Ever since crossplay as killer I get nothing but gen rushed and tbagged.

Neither side is going to care about the other anymore apparently when it comes to the fun of the game.

Because no one tries to have fun anymore, they just want to win.

Personally I don't give a flying fudge about hatch, but I think people have right to complain.

Imagine running a god tier match as a survivor-good mind games, looped the killer got gens done quickly, made some hook saves then as you go to walk out you get hit by noed and camped and your team leaves. That's how hatch feels with a good killer game except noed can be countered , hatch is rng and that's why I hate it. As survivor vs oni, Billy or other mobile killer hatch is borderline useless and some maps feel like you can just memorize the 2 or 3 spots itll spawn. Lile half the ######### in this game its flawed and needs some work but good luck ever getting that* cough* decisive strike*cough *

Do you actually love it tho?

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"So I love how people complain about hatch."

"I love how just because a game goes in your favor you NEED that 4k."

"I dont got to like or favor anything to agree or disagree"

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K.

Well, you just keep doing your survivor main "I'm right and that's definitely right and it doesn't matter about my logic" thing buddy, seems to be working for ya 👍🙈🙏

If you have successfully hooked and sacrificed 3 survivors but have failed to consider and take into account the existence of the hatch then you deserve to lose the 4th survivor. I don’t care how well of a killer you were up to that point. The hatch is part of the game play. Instead of complaining about it, adapt and strategize. You aren’t owed anything.

I have three problems with hatch.

1. It appears before the last gen has popped or there's only one survivor. If it didn't appear until you were at 0 gens or 1 survivor, you couldn't find it early on either side and that would reduce hatch disconnects.
2. It opens immediately on a disconnect. Should be a timer, like the sacrifice animation. Even maybe the same animation as EGC collapse finish.
3. It should provide points to the killer as if they'd sacrificed the survivor. The survivor didn't complete their objectives, so they didn't win.

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I still can't tell if you love it when people complain about hatch but I think you don't actually love how killers like to fulfill their raison d'etre and get as close to 32k bp by getting 4 kills when a game goes in their favor.

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"when there are more than ONE thing you could be talking about", well there's always more than one thing anyone could be talking about really. Sometimes though, when you're posting on an internets forum and you hit that quote button thing and make reference to the first sentence of what someone else posted you're referring to that.

This is all getting too complicated, I'm going to go waste time not being able to get a "kill all 4 survivors" challenge done and think about how using a key to get through a hatch isn't somehow related to the hatch.

Hopefully you do actually love people complaining about the hatch and someone else will keep fulfilling that need for you 😬.

I don't typically have a problem with hatch more have a problem with with the gameplay styles it tends to cause.

1) slugging for the 4k I can fully agree it is not funny for the person being slugged to have to eat dirt for about 4 minutes whilst the killer tries to find the 4th Survivor.

2) Where's the last two immersed Claudette. This is when the last two survivors basically enter an immersed competition and do nothing hoping the other one dies. The killer is then forced to play an annoying game of searching every possible nook and cranny hoping a luckily bump into that stupid Claudette.

Both of these outcomes of Hatch are incredibly unfun for either party but the Hatch itself is not really a problem it just has very annoying symptoms

Unfortunately not even the hatch can guarantee you'll not de pip. Even if everyone DCs, so I wouldn't say it rewards bad survivors. Not to mention it punishes the killer for no reason, they should have it where it one person DCs, it should give you more score than it already does, that way if 3 DC and one gets the hatch, it guarantees a black pop, same should go for survivor too, I hate when people DC it screws up the rest of the players, killer included.

Where did I ever say that noed is a crutch?

Go on, I'm waiting.

Being able to close the hatch doesn't bother me near as much as the exit gates spawning so close together. In most cases when the hatch is closed, it's game over, because the gates are so easy to patrol. They should spawn on opposite sides of the map in order to give the survivor a chance to open the gate, instead of being almost certain death. I say this as both killer and survivor. A 4k should be earned by effort, and hard work, not given..

My only issue with hatch is keys. I think hatch is fine, by the time the killer gets a 3k or someone DC's to give hatch, you should pip at least 1 as a killer. So i don't give a damn. What I do give a damn about though, is the fact that I've gotten MULTIPLE games where 2 die, and the other 2 leave with a key. I think only one person should be able to leave through a key hatch, and the hatch should break when one person escapes with it. But thats just me.

I had a match where I was crushing the survivors. I downed the 3rd and the 4th was injured somewhere. I didn't feel like slugging for the 4k so I hooked the 3rd right away. Then BBQ shows the 4th person making a beeline to a spot and crouches. "I wonder what could be there?" Despite the hatch being so far away, I actually get there in time to close it as Nea is standing on top of it. She was pissed. Worst part is I had no idea the hatch was there. Had she used her brain and jumped into a locker to hide from BBQ, I wouldn't have found her. I bet they wanted to send me several angry messages but then they realized I am on PC and they are on console.