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How is the legion

I haven't heard anyone talk about them for a while now. Are they performing well, so you enjoy play as/agaisnt them. I'm a little curious. (I used to main legion)

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  • EntitledMyersMain
    EntitledMyersMain Member Posts: 832

    Bad.

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    He's not the worst, but that says more about Clown, Wraith, and Myers than it does about Legion.

  • EntitledMyersMain
    EntitledMyersMain Member Posts: 832

    Are you suggesting Myers is bad?

    BECAUSE I CAN NOT ALLOW THAT

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  • IIITweedleIII
    IIITweedleIII Member Posts: 1,013

    Those who rag against Legion just don't know how to be Legion.

    Same with any of them.

    In reality, it's the Player.

    It's just as if I rag on Nurse.

    because there are pro Nurse players.

    It's not Nurse, it's me playing as Nurse.

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    No, it's the killer.

    Legion has sub-par mobility, since his Frenzy can only be used for Map mobility if you find a convenient chain of survivors.

    Legion has sub-par chase, since the only way his Frenzy can ever become lethal is if the survivors do something so monumentally stupid as to make it lethal.

    His only redeeming quality is that he can quickly get multiple injuries in a short amount of time, but even that can be rendered impossible if the survivors just spread out.

    Comparing him to Nurse is flawed. Nurse has a skill ceiling high enough that it had may as well not be there.

    Legion's power doesn't take a lot of skill to use, and there's nothing you can use your own skill to develop on that killer beyond normal M1 gameplay, which every killer can do.

  • ZCerebrate
    ZCerebrate Member Posts: 641


    I would agree with Clown, Meyers to an extent due to the existence of Ghost Face but Meyers has "fun" elements through addons like Tombstones and and Mirror EW One that I can forgive him too. Wraith has a higher potential than Legion with the right perks and addons (he's basically trash without Windstorm as a bare minimum, silent bell or Sight addon being the other options). Legion is very 1 dimensional but he is strong enough for the same reason at a 115% M1 killer who can instant down (due to keeping people injured) and perfect tracking through even lockers couldn't possibly be unplayable.

    Not recommended for tournament play because actual coordination beyond what an average SWF can pull off can completely counter and make Legion nearly unplayable by splitting up and pressuring gens with Dead Hards/DS/Unbreakables stacked up. Legion is a very low skill floor killer with most of your skills shining from map/game knowledge and fundamentals as a killer.

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  • Tactless_Ninja
    Tactless_Ninja Member Posts: 1,791

    There are no bad killers. Just standards they can't live up to because SWF broke people's wills.

  • StibbityStabbity
    StibbityStabbity Member Posts: 1,839

    Dunno. I don't have to work NEARLY as hard to get hooks/kills on Bouncy Boi as I do on Legion. Legion has their ups, but I feel like Bouncy is a bit more concrete in his ability to down Survivors. Might not wound several in one use of his ability, but being able to use his ability to secure a Dying state gives him some edge.

    I still like Legion, still get 4ks, but I feel like I have to work a lot harder for them. The BP Legion earns, however, is pretty great.

  • EnderloganYT
    EnderloganYT Member Posts: 621

    imma have to disagree with you on Myers, he's at least a solid B while Legions like a C.

  • blackjack5130
    blackjack5130 Member Posts: 7

    most players will say hes bad but from my personal experience he got me to my first rank 1 id say hes pretty good killer not too weak not too strong and done right you can apply immense pressure. overall id say hes a 7/10 as of now i can get consistent 3-4ks on him so hes alright

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  • All killers are viable (except clown maybe) I just base it on how much fun I think I will have with them

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    Legion is a high D, low C.

    Myers is F with Wraith. There are a lot of reasons I don't respect him, but if I load into a match against Myers, it's basically a free win if they don't pull out a Tombstone piece or get Hawkins.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Legion is okay. They are a little stronger than most people give them credit for (name one other m1 killer that gets pallets out of the way that quickly), but their add-ons are pretty trash and they get destroyed by basic gen tactics.

  • Zeon_99
    Zeon_99 Member Posts: 463

    The Legion are about mid tier. Injuring multiple people in a span of a few seconds, having constant pressure, and uncounterable tracking is very underrated.

  • Xbob42
    Xbob42 Member Posts: 1,117
    edited September 2020

    I just finally bought all the rest of the DLC today since it was on sale, and gave Legion a few spins. They seem like they could be fun, but the power takes a trillion years to come back, which is weird, because while it's not a terrible power, it seems excessive how long it takes given its relative power. You literally can't down anyone with it. While something like Oni might take more prep work, once you've got the entire team injured you often have enough orbs everywhere to use your power several times in a row, especially if they commit to gens while injured. And that gives you a turbo sprint with mega curving, one-shot downs, instant pallet smashes, and a multi-hit down that can bring down multiple people like Bubba, if you get them close enough together. Oh, and you can use your lethal attack even when not in a sprint, as well as normal M1ing so you're in no way inhibited by your power, only better.

    Legion doesn't have to collect their power, but it takes so long to come back so you run a little quicker, can vault, but can't see scratch marks or anything, can't down, and to actually capitalize on anything you have to stun yourself for several seconds and then get into a normal M1 chase.

    I'm not sure how you'd fix them to be better, either. Maybe keep the unlimited vaulting in frenzy, but have them earn up to 2 tokens for regular M1 hits, and vaulting outside of frenzy spends one? Or something like that. I haven't put in nearly enough hours to be able to come up with a real solution, but it's apparent the moment you've finished your first game that their design doesn't quite gel correctly. I don't think they need a massive power boost, because old Legion needs to stay dead for all eternity, just a little something to differentiate them while giving them a bit of an edge they currently lack.

  • Demogordon_Ramsay
    Demogordon_Ramsay Member Posts: 1,503

    His power is to look at his hands.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445

    Legion does either fantastic or terrible with minimal in between. Partially that's due to their play style. If Legion can keep the whole team off balance and scrambling to recover, that's when Legion will start getting downs and grinding down the survivors. If they can't, they lose hard and fast.

    Also Legion's power has a lot of parts to it. The vast number of blunders I've seen simply from Survivors not knowing how they work is honestly staggering. However if the Survivors do know how to handle Legion, Legion is going to have a bad time.

  • Xbob42
    Xbob42 Member Posts: 1,117

    You know, it's weird because I read Legion's power description and I don't think it mentioned not being able to down survivors in Frenzy at all, and of course survivors don't get any kind of notification or information outside of the occasional loading screen tip. The amount of crap you have to learn by playing as the killer yourself or watching streamers/Youtube videos is insane in this game. There needs to be more ways to convey information to players. I think half the potato players in the game just kind of boot up the game and play it the same way over and over, never really talking to anyone or learning more.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445

    You are right.

    However if they do a better job of teaching people how powers work, I'd miss chuckling when Survivors use Dead Hard when I am still in frenzy. Or when they try to immerse behind a tree after I've already given someone else deep wound. Or healthy Survivors pre throwing pallets in my face when my power is ready.

  • Caleaha
    Caleaha Member Posts: 90

    I got my first killer adept on Legion. You just need to know when to Frenzy and when not to. I find Iron Maiden useless, but I like discordance.

    I feel like Legion is a nice fast character. Though the shortness can be annoying on some maps.

  • xerav
    xerav Member Posts: 392
    edited September 2020

    Legion is fine.

    +His power is easy to use and wastes alot of time for survivor and gives you lots of information

    +You can farm tons of bloodpoints cuz your power helps you find surv and end chases and stall the game so even if you dont get many hooks you will get many bloodpoints and do well in the pip system.

    -He sucks at downing survivor (you will have to down survivor without the help of your power).

    So overall he is great Killer to farm bloodpoints just not a good Killer for downing survivors fast.

  • Lentoro
    Lentoro Member Posts: 213

    Not bad but DEFINITELY not good.

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426

    Weak :)

    Legion and Clown are pretty much considered the two weakest killers in the game afaik.

    Its not up to you how well you do for the most part. Either the survivors group and let you use your power (which is weak btw) or they don't and you're just an M1 killer.

  • EnderloganYT
    EnderloganYT Member Posts: 621

    how is Myers an F? he has the potential to one shot entire teams with relative ease

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    Yes, he can oneshot the entire survivor team in one use of his ability.

    So could old Bubba.

    In reality, you're probably only going to get one down per use of EW3, and you can only use EW3 a maximum of seven times (not that you'll have time to do that).

    EW3 isn't a very good ability, but what makes him F tier is that he has to drag around the 50 lb ball and chain that is EW1 for the first two generators of time.

  • Talmeer
    Talmeer Member Posts: 1,520
    edited September 2020

    The only negative thing that has to be said about the Legion is, that the devs have suck out every fun part of the Legion and just let the boring stuff survive the rework patch (+increasing the boring stuff).

    He is a medicore killer, that should drown in 0-2 kills matches by now. Luckily for him, the survivors in dbd are usually not the best, outside of swfs, or experienced solo survs. So... he can still be a threat thanks to his solid m1 gameplay and the survivor st... rhm... "special way of playing".

    That maybe changes if the devs finaly set up a mm where only the best rank up. If that ever happens I predict that the most Legions will hang in the green or purple ranks around, besides the obvious 1 of 100 Legion guys who can still manage to stay at the red ranks.

    So not really a comparison to Billy, Spirit, Freddy and so on.

  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,530

    Legion can be ok but it's up to the Survivors whether you win or not, you can't overcome a coordinated group no matter how well you play.

  • IshinSolarc
    IshinSolarc Member Posts: 114

    Legion really depends on the way you play, you can play by delaying generators or forcing heals. I like to play by delaying generators and apply pressure throughout the map having wounded survivors.

    Legion is definitely not a bad killer, he got good mobility and is able to take 1 health state of each survivor without issues. The rest is about being a good killer(outplay survivors in loops, mind game them, have really good game sense.) and knowing how to use the Feral Frenzy in the right moments.

  • EnderloganYT
    EnderloganYT Member Posts: 621

    if you are

    A. only getting a single down per EW3 use

    and B. not getting out of EW1 before 2 gens or not making use of the stealth gained from EW1

    you are playing Myers wrong

    I am like the most mediocre of players and even I can get at least 2 downs in EW3 and can easily get out of EW1 by the time the 1st gens done.

    he's a fairly powerful killer, he just take a bit of time to learn (not a lot of time like nurse, but a bit)

  • Godot
    Godot Member Posts: 806

    I just had a couple Myers games and obliterated everyone. He's not a bad killer, I assure you that. Same goes to Wraith. Wraith is my 2nd favorite Killer out there. Lmao.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Legion is an average “good enough” killer. They have great tracking and can stall the game by injuring survivors efficiently, but they have trouble sealing the deal with downs afterward since their ability can’t down anyone directly (aside from the corner case of someone accidentally forgetting to mend). Their abiity does give them some extra map mobility but it isn’t quite as good between chases as Blight’s or Billy’s (they move almost twice as fast with minimal cooldown between uses and a shorter stun after using it.)

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Imo Legion sits comfortably in the middle of power level of all the killers

    As long as you are good at chasing they can win most matches

  • Godot
    Godot Member Posts: 806

    Legion is just fine.

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    If you are able to get multiple downs in EW3, you are either:

    A: Have some great add-ons.

    B: Fighting bad survivors.

    Tier 3 Myers has 60 seconds to get downs. Considering that just forcing a pallet break and holding W will buy you 20 seconds, it's very easy to loop a Myers for the entire duration of EW3. The only workaround for that is for Myers to 99 his EW3 and pop it when he has a guaranteed hit, and that's the only reason I even say he should be getting one down per EW3 against decent survivors.

    When you also remember that anyone with half a brain knows that they should be spreading out across the map (especially against a Myers), the fantasy of bringing Infectious Fright to down an entire team in one EW3 ends up being just that; a fantasy

    And that's just EW3 being a mediocre effect. EW1 is absolutely crippling. It takes 6 seconds of stalking to get out of tier 1 at point blank, but it falls off so much with distance (down to literally 1% speed at max range...) that there's no way of stalking quickly if the survivors are aware of their surroundings. When you add on how Myers is vulnerable to Spine Chill and very visually obvious (6 foot 5 with a stark white mask), you'd be lucky to get a quarter of your stalk before the survivor runs away, starting the process of following and slowly chipping at your charge bar (and since stalking is buggy/terrible, it will be slow) until you finally get to be a killer when you tier up.

    If you're not only getting 2+ downs per EW3, but you're also being allowed to get out of EW1 before 1-2 gens have been completed, that just makes it completely solid in my mind that the survivors you're running into are idiots.

  • Axe
    Axe Member Posts: 1,060

    Not good, Not bad. Not weak but not strong either, Legion is vibin in a pretty gray area atm. Its fun playing as them unless you get a large map or a SWF/good team that split up

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    You can like them all you want, they're still dogshit.

  • BunnyTheHutt
    BunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,773
  • Godot
    Godot Member Posts: 806

    Maybe the Killers aren't the ones that are bad here..................................?

  • 2LuvRias
    2LuvRias Member Posts: 352

    He's fine...

  • Ramxenoc445
    Ramxenoc445 Member Posts: 1,358

    disagree. PLaying blight has been nothing but good and fun. Playing legion i have to try hard if i decide to not run the slow builds and even then i have to get it going before they pop three gens its not really all that fun legion is garbo. i love em but they garbo

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  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,530

    I can post 4Ks as well but that doesn't make Legion a "fine" killer.

    Here you go, 4K on Red Forest, rank 2, 3, 5, 5, toolkits, flashlight, DS, Sprint Burst. It would have only taken a tiny bit of coordination for them to finish that last gen and all escape. Legion is average.


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  • Ramxenoc445
    Ramxenoc445 Member Posts: 1,358

    Well i havent much trouble with blight outside of not having perks to help so i get gen rushed but with legion i've always been sure my problem with legion is that i don't use frenzy enough but i also don't wanna put people through all that mending because its garbage to deal with. I try to respect the survivors but usually ends up with me hating playing the legion despite getting a 4k or getting looped and losing with 1k maybe. Legion isn't fun to play most times .

  • Kumnut768
    Kumnut768 Member Posts: 789

    boring

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