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Btw, Spirit can have basic attack from their ability but Blight cannot or basic attack is illogical
Devs, would you kindly make us all a favour and explain the though process behind making an attack which:
- Has the exact range as normal m1
- Is used by pressing m1
- Is not referred as "special" attack in the very description of Blight's power
- Has the exact same animation as normal attack
not a basic attack?
While Spirit can perform a basic attack with a boost out of her phasing and Nurse is just vibing with using attack only after her ability and gaining benefits as basic attack?
And, please, don't say that landing a hit from Haunting or Blink is harder than landing a hit from lethal rush, we all know that is a lie.
Blight is already lackluster, it won't hurt allowing him to make basic attacks out of lethal rush.
I said that before and I will keep saying it:
basic attack system is disgusting, illogical, stillborn mechanic and it must be gone or entirely reworked because it is ruining the game
@Peanits @Almo @McLean please, I demand answers. I am sure you possess the information that you are allowed to sure to tell all us why Blight does not have an access to basic attack in his lethal rush.
p.s. "basic attack mechanic serves purpose of simplifying game" - the most hypocritical and shameful thing anybody could say. This mechanic has a lot of illogical exceptions like Blight or Spirit and it must be gone. Stop using it as an excuse to make killers worse.
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The spirit can't see people while using her ability, the blight can. they aren't comparable.
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I know this is sort of off topic, but I honestly hate the "basic attack" requirement almost anywhere its put. It creates an unnecessary power disparity, since some killers use basic attacks way more than others, and overall, having more restrictions just simply isn't fun.
I'd suggest allowing all 3 you mentioned (Spirit, Nurse, and Blight) to have their abilities count as basic attacks.
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So what? And survivor can't see spirit and blight can.
You entirely missed the point.
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what baffles me even more, that this "basic attack" bs was created only to explain why legion cannot oneshot exposed survivors and then they just can't not to put that idiotic mechanic everywhere and it makes zero sense in means of "balance" since spirit and nurse have basic attacks already and they are the strongest.
Why not basic attack work the following:
If killer uses his main weapon it is basic attack
If killer uses secondary weapon/projectiles it is not basic attack.
As for Legion - his attack in frenzy acts like legion hits survivors under endurance, so he cannot down them no matter what, plain and simple.
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So a spirit has less of a chance to hit someone out of their ability because she has to find the person or know where they are, the blight wouldn't have to do this.
You entirely missed the point.
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yeah i honestly dont understand why they do it
there are so many perks i would like to try on most killers but they are simply out of options because of that basic attack requirement
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So you are implying that hitting survivors as Spirit is harder than hitting them with Blight, which is why spirit is allowed to basic attack and blight is not?
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Also WHY CAN'T HE BREAK PALLETS WITH HIS SLAM?!!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?1/1/111111/!?!!
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Edit - I did misunderstand, I thought you meant you wanted to M1 off the first boost idk.
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Understandable, have a nice day, I apologise for being rude then.
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His post slam attack isn't a Basic Attack?
It's the same damn animation, Spirit's Attack is called "Grudge" and it's still considered a basic attack.
Yeah, you have a point here, makes no sense.
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I mean it kinda makes sense though his power is more similar to legion then anything so in that standard I don’t feel like they will change it but it would be nice to have that use for things like Sloppy, STBFL, or his own perk Dragon’s Grip
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Legion has full control and can vault pallets&windows.
Blight is forced to choose very specific paths to make hits and he is also heavily restricted in lunge&steering. There's no adequate reason he shouldn't have basic attack. Devs just can't stop with "I paid money to make basic attack, I will put this requirement everywhere" bullshit
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I mean he moves insanely fast and can hit player that would be insane if it had the ability to have the Cooldown lowered by Save or insta downs due to perks though you got to admit that atleast. Not hating on it just saying he could get abused with it being a basic attack and I think that is what they are worried about.
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Spirit can do all that and she has basic attack.
If Blight cannot have basic attack, then it must be taken from Spirit and Nurse aswell.
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I’m not saying it’s not dumb they have it on some and not others just saying why I feel like they have it that way. Feel like they should either remove all powers from being basic attacks or make all powers that use the basic attack key activate as one.
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His power is lethal rush . Is that a basic attack to you ? Thats like saying huntress hatchets are badic attacks rotfl xD
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I can assure you, as a Blight player, I can't see ######### without the aura add-on, it's a forest of ankles and grass and I'm just putting the pedal to the metal and praying there's someone dumb enough to be in my way!
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Deathslinger gets to slap a survivor with a basic attack after using his power. Blight does not. Both of them use the same animations for their respective basic and "in-power" attacks, but only Deathslinger's counts as a basic attack. It's dumb.
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Oh, that's so smart conclusion, thanks, but would you bother explaining why spirit and nurse have basic attack despite the fact they are using special abilities to position themselves?
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yeah, why they can't be consistent and make ANY attack which follows up a power not a basic attack. Not like I want that, but that could at least make sense, as current basic attack system is flawed.
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The only thing blight needs is flick. Thats it. His power is relatively strong, but too hard to learn if the survivor can dodge it without trying. And it is referred to as a special attack, at least on ps4.
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Nurse bc every killer has to have one, and she wouldn't otherwise bc shes 96% speed. Spirit bc its easier to do honestly lol
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Nurse wouldn't be able to hit survivors without basic attacks, and not every killer should be at that SSSS+ tier level. Don't compare a perfectly fine killer to an unbalanced one like spirit.
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I don't think it should be base kit, as I slam off pallets a lot. It definitely shouldn't be iridescent, though. They should switch the aura reading one to iridescent, and the pallet slam to green.
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So what? Nurse can still M1 survivors, it's just slightly harder to do. She also has addons to increase her movement speed.
Like I said, either devs should be consistent and make any attack coming from or after using powers like Nurse's not basic or admit that basic attack system is flawed and return one step back and use logic to consider attacks basic/not basic and not a flip of a coin.
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You can hear them and they dont know where you are. Shes easy to hit with. Blight, however, you can't hit if the survivor jukes at all, because you have no flick.
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Demogorgon got braking pallets as basekit as an addition to the ability which allows him to literally instantly damage any survivor within 12 meters range of him.
There's nothing wrong in allowing blight to break pallets with slam. If people are so afraid of Blight being OP because of that, he could break pallets only with lethal rush.
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She has one add-on like that that and it nerfs her. It is one of her worst add-ons. I'm a nurse main, and I think of her power as traversal. Thats why its a basic attack, because its a traversal power. Blinks have nothing to do with an attack.
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Blight's lunge while rushing does not function the same as a normal M1 lunge, to my understanding. Spirit's lunge while phasing still does.
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Read the post first. I said that since I use pallets to slam off of, I don't want this because it would make him harder to play. I think he would be weaker with that addon base kit.
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And Blight's power is for traversal no more or less than Nurse's power. He also has much harder times hitting survivors with his power in chases, so once again, no reason he shouldn't be able to have basic attack from lethal rush, if nurse has basic attack from blinks.
Your point makes zero sense.
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Nurse is the hardest killer. Remember its only day 3. All he needs is flick.
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Blights power isn't meant for loops either. Its in between them.
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Blight loses any momentum from lethal rush and performs his attack as if he made a normal m1 with 4.6 speed and not his 9.2 speed or else. The only difference from normal lunge is handicapping 15 degrees limit and that's it. His lunge from ability is basically weaker than his normal lunge.
Spirit on the other hand gets an extra lunge speed&distance when performing it out of phasing. Her lunge out of ability is stronger than her normal lunge.
Yet Spirit has basic attack and Blight doesn't. Stop acting like this makes sense, that's just sad.
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Your point doesn't make sense either. Just because one killer has something doesnt mean another should.
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So what? Tell me why is this a reason he cannot have basic attack from lethal rush, while Nurse can?
If you say anything like "tHiS iS dIfFeReNt blah-blah" I will ignore you because I'm tired of the self-contradicting nonsense you say.
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The only difference from normal lunge is handicapping 15 degrees limit and that's it.
There's also the fact that you can't use the attack until you've fulfilled certain conditions (bounced off something at least once).
Spirit just keeps a speed boost for a brief moment after she phases back in.
This all makes sense to me. From my point of view, the only instance where the rules for what is considered a basic attack and what isn't don't really hold up is with Michael Myers, since his lunge distances change depending on what tier EW he is in.
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In that case this is exactly what it should be.
Blight, compared to any other similar killer with fast mobility power or chasing power which ignores basic attack rule (Spirit, Nurse, Deathslinger), is worse than any of them in every single aspect apart from maybe traversing the map slightly faster. In chases however he is significantly worse and more skill demanding than any of these three killers, yet he is suffering from basic attack rule.
It makes zero sense for him to have the restrictions which these killers are somehow free of.
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Nurses power is different. She has no special attack, as with one, her basic attack is worthless. As blight, you can m1 and then use your power, and get the basic attack perk to activate. You don't seem to realize that blink attacks can't be a thing, or else nurse wouldnt even be capable of using those perks. Blight is 115% speed. You can m1 then use your power with him, where on nurse you can't. Thats why its not a basic attack. You don't, and shouldn't use your power all the time. But nurse has to, so using her power has to be basic. Its so simple that I can't believe you don't see it.
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M1 then use your power. Simple. This would only be a valid argument if he was 110, which hes not.
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And...?
Once again, Blight has to fulfil a lot of conditions and deal with a lot of restriction to activate slightly worse m1 hit. Hitting survivors as Spirit is easier and has less restrictions.
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Rather than having Blight buffed this thread is just going to get nurse and spirit nerfed. You know that right?
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I'm not making a case over which is better or which is worse. I am only making a case over whether the rules of basic attack vs. non-basic attack is consistent or not.
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good luck, I'm not going to continue a conversation with a person who ignores anything that I say and keeps repeating the nonsense how "nurse is different".
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yeah. I'm sick of basic attack rule which has more exceptions than normal cases where it works.
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She is. You can't basic attack on her without blinking, and thats why its a basic attack. You are slower than survivors. You might not be able to comprehend that.
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You ignored everything I said and ran away from an argument you knew I won.
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By all possible regularities that could determine whether an attack is basic or not, Michael Myers should have not basic attack more than Blight. Yet we have what we have.
Basic attack system is ridiculous and makes zero sense.
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if you think that repeating one thing, ignoring everything that opponent says and saying "I've won" when your opponent gets sick of that bs is "winning an argument" in your opinion, then I feel really sorry for you.
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