You almost always have to tunnel to beat SWF

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I'm red rank survivor and killer and after 1000+ hours of gameplay it seems the only way to play against SWF is to tunnel your way into 3v1

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  • Kleer_mi1k
    Kleer_mi1k Member Posts: 46
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    Soon enough you wont have to. Supposedly they will be releasing a killer perk that disables all survivor perks!

  • Envious1
    Envious1 Member Posts: 18
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    No you don't. That's actually a terrible idea because you're allowing the others to do gens. If they're not doing gens then they're being overly altruistic. SWF are hard to deal with but tunneling will just lead to a depip or a black pip. Also imagine the salt they would have.

  • DeRdpOoL78
    DeRdpOoL78 Member Posts: 17
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    Well I'm a survivor main and when I play with a SWF the only time we lose is if one person gets tunneled out early

  • Kleer_mi1k
    Kleer_mi1k Member Posts: 46
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    Honestly I think a good addition would be adding a second killer into the matches. Might help out lobby times also

  • CaptainCastle
    CaptainCastle Member Posts: 536
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    This is kind of misleading. Yeah if the survivor can run you for a while sure, but if there's no ds and the unhooked person is a pretty easy down (dead zones or unskilled) it's worth losing an extra gens worth of pressure to make it a 3v1.


    If you're working through BT DS and excellent looping you're better off finding an easy target but that's just killer 101 not a proof against the strength of tunneling.

  • Envious1
    Envious1 Member Posts: 18
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    The problem is DS is used in most/all SWF by at least 1 person. Loosing multiple gens (1-3) for one person makes the game a loss (unless you count a black pip as a win).

    Working through DS and BT + excellent loopers is extremely challenging. Most squads have a weak link. You have a 1/4 chance in finding that weak link in the SWF THEn deal with overly altruistic survivors (Body Blocking, taking hits, etc).

    Tunneling 1 person for multiple gens is never good. You want to down as many survivors in between/ before gens are popped. You don't want to sacrifice 1 person then have the other 3 escape.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814
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    If by "tunnel" you mean "don't play mercifully," AKA what most people seem to think is tunnelling, then yes. If you mean "get tunnel vision in one survivor and kill them no matter what," then no. That's how you lose.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,651
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    Agreed. 100% agreed.

    Tunneling one survivor all game means you apply 0 pressure to 3 survivors on the map, meaning generators can be completed in 200 seconds (80 seconds for 3 gens to pop at start, ~45 for another, and 80 for the final, 40 seconds travel time). The best way to win against SWFs is to just play hard. No need to tunnel and facecamp and all that bullshit, just play like you want to win. Split pressure, get them off of gens, use your perks to the best advantage (make sure you actually kick gens with Pop, make sure you actually get survivors off gens with ruin, don't chase into your Corrupt area, don't tunnel the obsession with stbfl, etc).

    After 1.9k+ hours and coming up 3 years of playing this game, that's how you best SWF teams.