Controversial: If survivors "tunnel gens" is it fair for the killer to tunnel survivors?

Again, where are these tools to stop tunneling? That is what my reply to you was about.

If The Killer wants to tunnel, he will succeed. Even if everyone stopped to help, which would come at a great cost to the objective. Those perks don't deny, they delay the inevitable. The Killer is not entitled to a Hook until he actually hooks. And that's a win according to you, not everyone agrees especially the fourth Survivor. Some people will play as one.

That's true about The Killer's investment in that chase but it's a chase he chose to engage in. The distinction is that after someone is rescued and you avoid interacting with them for X seconds doesn't regress your previous chase and hook progress with that specific Survivor. On the other hand, if a generator is regressing, a Survivor has to return to protect it from further regression. Tunneling Survivors would obviously be mandatory if after so much time, hook states are restored.

Played 3 games as killer last night, in all matches I was harshly mismatched in regards to ranks.

Game 1 as Trapper on Red Forest, played clean, no tunneling or defending hooked players. 1 sacrificed and 3 escaped.

Game 2 as GF on Ormond. Played clean, no tunneling or defending hooked players. 2 sacrifices and 2 escaped

Game 3 as spirit on Torment creek. Tunnel slugged three times and defended 1 player on hook, hooked slugged player on same hook shortly after hooked player was rescued, rinse and repeat. 4 sacrifices and 3 gens left 🤣🤣

That's why killers tunnel and camp/defend. Its super effective. I play both sides and I get angry when I get camped and/or tunnelled but i accept that its a clever tactic.

You confuse knowing synonyms to quoting definitions of a word, I did the former not the latter. The point still stands, there is no perk that stops tunneling only perks that can extend the tunnel. And I don't see you explaining the perks and how they accomplish what you say. The fact that you're resorting to attacking me, rather than focusing on the discussion tells me everything I need to know.

sure i say tunnel them out by any means necessary!

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If you are intentionally ignoring every other survivor to the point that they will stand in front of you and you won’t even swing at them because you want the other survivor that bad, yes, you are tunneling.

Play how you want, you don't need to justify playing any specific way. There's no rule that says you can't tunnel or camp and there's no rule that says a survivor has to heal or not do a gen in your face. These are all just risk vs reward choices you make in the game. If they pay off then great, if not then that was the risk you took.

you know tho perk are not 100% like Ds is right noed may not be used and with pop you have to work for it by getting hooks,what survivor have to do use DS lose a chase and get hooked that not just ds if ub and bt are used as well.

See I don't understand killers playing like that-I'm a killer main, I've rarely played survivor since I bought dbd in Feb (I probably should play survivor more just to get my gameplay better) and doing what you said that person did sounds so boring-I don't care if I lose all 4 survivors so long as I'm running about trying my best and hoping everyobe is having fun. Unfortunately that sometimes makes it look like I'm a prime target from t bagging and flashlight clicking etc....its a shame there isn't more respect in game

I agree to some extent, so long as tunneling doesn't come with an opportunity cost. Allowing yourself to be bodyblocked by other survivors, or forgoing 1-2 easy stabs in the mid game to try and chase down your RL Obsession, can lead to bad games. If folks are willing to take the hit, you just gotta give it to them sometimes: if the other 3 survivors are gen-planted while your doing a 2 minute grabass chase with Meg, you're not going to have a good game.

And that's all secondary to the fact tunneling, if unprovoked, just feels meanspirited and unsportsmanlike... which isn't fun for me when I'm killer. I'm OK losing a game vs. skilled survivors than playing like that. Now, someone decides dropping a pallot is worthy of a tbag - that's my RL Mori. "So you have chosen death." I still don't do tunnel even then when its not tactically sound, but if given a choice, I go for the Bagger.

If you immediately jump on a gen off the hook without healing, I assume you're ready to continue playing the game and I'll tunnel you out. If you can do your objective, then I can do mine. Fair is fair.

That being said, I'm not going out of my way to tunnel solo survivors who by and large have no idea how to handle it or manage hook states between 4 survivors. It takes a bit of coordination to handle a dedicated tunneler.

Why do you think that losing a gen which takes 2s to finish is toxic and should be counterable? The gen is finished because survivors made it 99% done not because the one tunneling the gen is toxic. Bring Ruin and Undying and give pressure properly, bring mori if you think you meet swf with 4 toolboxes.

If you are talking about the situation when you don't have Pop or Ruin and survivors want to tunnel an almost-finished machine, a buff of overcharge can work, maybe increase the penalty to 7/8/9%. A perk against gen rush which does not require hook or hex is needed, but should not be stronger than Pop or Ruin.

As a killer, I would say that camping except during End Game is toxic while tunneling is not. Killers taking the risk of BT, DS, and DH makes tunneling fair to the game imo. Here are some exceptions: Leatherface getting back to Kindred range every 5s and Wraith standing by the shack and hit everyone approaching without chasing even if no one else approached, these noobs are camping instead of tunneling.

In the end, yes I am a survivor main. At the same time, I am a r4 killer, Dr and Myers main, and I really find some killer mains are not able to empathize.