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Sole Survivor

Nero
Nero Member Posts: 43

Guys tell me does the PTB version of Sole survivor counters BBQ ? in some way ? what happens when 1 survivor is dead and killer hooks another survivor and Im 40 meters away..can killer see me ? or do I have to be 68m away for the killer to see me...I mean why cant they just make this perk to counter BBQ indirectly or directly..and the first token aura reading range should be reduce by 28m in order to counter nurses calling...What do you guys think?

Answers

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    First
    As more of your friends fall to the Killer, you become shrouded in isolation and the Killer's Aura-reading abilities towards you are disrupted.

    Your Aura cannot be read by the Killer within a maximum range of 20/24/28 metres for each killed or sacrificed Survivor.
    (ptb version)
    So yes 1 token does counter Nurse's.
    And BBQ is countered if you have 2 tokens... slightly. You can extra 16 meters from the range of bbq

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Nero said:

    Guys tell me does the PTB version of Sole survivor counters BBQ ? in some way ? what happens when 1 survivor is dead and killer hooks another survivor and Im 40 meters away..can killer see me ? or do I have to be 68m away for the killer to see me...I mean why cant they just make this perk to counter BBQ indirectly or directly..and the first token aura reading range should be reduce by 28m in order to counter nurses calling...What do you guys think?

    It countered bbq since the change went to meters
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    it counters those perks now as it grows, ptb made it show you when it blocks a perk but it blocks bbq now
  • Nero
    Nero Member Posts: 43
    edited October 2018

    @Milo said:
    First
    As more of your friends fall to the Killer, you become shrouded in isolation and the Killer's Aura-reading abilities towards you are disrupted.

    Your Aura cannot be read by the Killer within a maximum range of 20/24/28 metres for each killed or sacrificed Survivor.
    (ptb version)
    So yes 1 token does counter Nurse's.
    And BBQ is countered if you have 2 tokens... slightly. You can extra 16 meters from the range of bbq

    but why it cant work like this..if I have 1 token of Sole survivor and Killer hooks the survivor and sees auras 40m away and he should be seeing me at range of 40+24=64m away because of 1 token of sole survivor..Because killer is seeing auras 40m away..Devs make this change...it will help counter BBq

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Nero said:

    @Milo said:
    First
    As more of your friends fall to the Killer, you become shrouded in isolation and the Killer's Aura-reading abilities towards you are disrupted.

    Your Aura cannot be read by the Killer within a maximum range of 20/24/28 metres for each killed or sacrificed Survivor.
    (ptb version)
    So yes 1 token does counter Nurse's.
    And BBQ is countered if you have 2 tokens... slightly. You can extra 16 meters from the range of bbq

    but why it cant work like this..if I have 1 token of Sole survivor and Killer hooks the survivor and sees auras 40m away and he should be seeing me at range of 40+24=64m away because of 1 token of sole survivor..Because killer is seeing auras 40m away..Devs make this change...it will help counter BBq

    It gets stronger as more people die, that's the answer. Not supposed to be super strong with 1 death. And that adds range and is weird. You gotta be 40+ meters to get ready by bbq, you have options. You'll be fine, bbq has answers and checks. 
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Okay so is the center of the BBQ & Chilli the min. range (the hook) or the max range (40m)? The range from 0-40m is aura reading but think of it being supressed for the 40 meters.

    And you have 2 options to counter BBQ:
    -Stand behind a gen
    -get into 40m radius

    @Nero

  • Nero
    Nero Member Posts: 43

    This perk is still weak though not useful...It would be useful if it counter bbq a little easier that way against killers like nurse and billy even spirit who have high mobility it will be better to use

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    The true problem with this perk is that there isn't enough Aura reads for killers (or good enough perks for killers to use) to counter it with death of your fellow survivors.

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Nero said:

    This perk is still weak though not useful...It would be useful if it counter bbq a little easier that way against killers like nurse and billy even spirit who have high mobility it will be better to use

    Oh well, against three killers lol. I see what you mean but it is good where it is. 
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Does anyone know if it affects Freddys aura reading? 
  • Nero
    Nero Member Posts: 43

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    Does anyone know if it affects Freddys aura reading? 

    I hope it does but didnt check so, in theory it should

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Does anyone know if it affects Freddys aura reading? 
    It affects all aura reading yes
  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    edited October 2018
    Does anyone know if it affects Freddys aura reading? 
    It affects all aura reading yes

    D A R N
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    It affects all aura reading yes

    How does it affect Freddy?

    He has infinite aura reading. I haven't played against anyone who uses Sole Survivor while playing as Freddy so I'm a bit curious about how it works.

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Mc_Harty said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    It affects all aura reading yes

    How does it affect Freddy?

    He has infinite aura reading. I haven't played against anyone who uses Sole Survivor while playing as Freddy so I'm a bit curious about how it works.

    Guess you arent aware of the sole survivor change. It's by percent but by meters. Sole survivor could always counter freddy. Sole survivor has been reworked earlier to nullify aura reading up to x meters, not by percent anymore. So if you are within x  meters you cannot be read by freddy. The wording of the perk is self explanatory, but some people aren't familiar with the rework wording. 
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    I mean it's not by percent but by meters. If you are within x meters of killer you cannot be read anymore
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Guess you arent aware of the sole survivor change. It's by percent but by meters. Sole survivor could always counter freddy. Sole survivor has been reworked earlier to nullify aura reading up to x meters, not by percent anymore. So if you are within x  meters you cannot be read by freddy. The wording of the perk is self explanatory, but some people aren't familiar with the rework wording. 

    No I'm aware of the changes, I just wasn't aware about how its useful against Freddy.

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Mc_Harty said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Guess you arent aware of the sole survivor change. It's by percent but by meters. Sole survivor could always counter freddy. Sole survivor has been reworked earlier to nullify aura reading up to x meters, not by percent anymore. So if you are within x  meters you cannot be read by freddy. The wording of the perk is self explanatory, but some people aren't familiar with the rework wording. 

    No I'm aware of the changes, I just wasn't aware about how its useful against Freddy.

    The wording tells you cause it's not by percent. Np yo
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Huh that's cool....

    "ANOTHER COUNTER TO FREDDY STOP HE'S ALREADY DEAD'

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited October 2018

    @Nero said:
    Guys tell me does the PTB version of Sole survivor counters BBQ ?

    Iirc the new PTB version works with multiples of 24, so at 1 token it doesn't have an effect since the minimum BBQ range is 40, at 2 tokens its range is 48m so you have 8 bonus meters to not be spotted. The 3rd token is obtained only after BBQ activated, so the 3rd token does nothing against BBQ.
    Essentially if you thought of using SS to counter BBQ, you shouldn't use it because it's not worth it.

  • Demonsouls1993
    Demonsouls1993 Member Posts: 261
    Nero said:

    Guys tell me does the PTB version of Sole survivor counters BBQ ? in some way ? what happens when 1 survivor is dead and killer hooks another survivor and Im 40 meters away..can killer see me ? or do I have to be 68m away for the killer to see me...I mean why cant they just make this perk to counter BBQ indirectly or directly..and the first token aura reading range should be reduce by 28m in order to counter nurses calling...What do you guys think?

    Here's an idea learn to count to 4 and go the other way here let me help u 1.....2.....3.......4 oh look how easy that was but for real lots not hard to counter BBQ git gud 
  • Nero
    Nero Member Posts: 43

    @Demonsouls1993 said:
    Nero said:

    Guys tell me does the PTB version of Sole survivor counters BBQ ? in some way ? what happens when 1 survivor is dead and killer hooks another survivor and Im 40 meters away..can killer see me ? or do I have to be 68m away for the killer to see me...I mean why cant they just make this perk to counter BBQ indirectly or directly..and the first token aura reading range should be reduce by 28m in order to counter nurses calling...What do you guys think?

    Here's an idea learn to count to 4 and go the other way here let me help u 1.....2.....3.......4 oh look how easy that was but for real lots not hard to counter BBQ git gud 

    are you stupid? how is that a counter against Billy or a nurse with range addons? they travel too fast you know