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Killer entitlement with the lobby cherry picking and dc's

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  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Tsulan said:
    Didn't know that...
    Thx for sharing 

    Keep in mind that the official wiki is that for a reason - it's the most complete and the best.

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    Eveline said:
    Nope. I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me to be the villain and it's kinda lonely.

    Didn't find it hard at all. When I played both of them I had more trouble getting to that rank as a survivor even tho I played survivor more. I love how people just assume things. Especially the same one that got offended by my posts and keep witch hunting trying to provoke me.
    Getting to Rank 1 as Killer is much harder these days than it was in the past. Most of all for us on PS4, Survivors didn’t know what the hell they were doing. Now, they do. I always knew it was just a matter of time. Survivors on PS4 know the Loops, know the maps, know the Gen locations and totem spawns, have all the best perks. Game has changed for us on PS4 Eveline. I invite you to try Killer to Rank 1 again. 
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    SovererignKing said:
    Eveline said:
    Nope. I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me to be the villain and it's kinda lonely.

    Didn't find it hard at all. When I played both of them I had more trouble getting to that rank as a survivor even tho I played survivor more. I love how people just assume things. Especially the same one that got offended by my posts and keep witch hunting trying to provoke me.
    Getting to Rank 1 as Killer is much harder these days than it was in the past. Most of all for us on PS4, Survivors didn’t know what the hell they were doing. Now, they do. I always knew it was just a matter of time. Survivors on PS4 know the Loops, know the maps, know the Gen locations and totem spawns, have all the best perks. Game has changed for us on PS4 Eveline. I invite you to try Killer to Rank 1 again. 
    The influx of noobs from the feeplay is a big help to some killers. 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    Ok, if they are to scared to play Fair, then there's nothing you can do about it. 

    Wait did you really just write that, of course they're not trying to play fair they're trying to live. Isn't that the same logic killer mains use that you're not trying to play fair. that you're trying to kill the survivors and thus will do whatever you can o accomplish that.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Ok, if they are to scared to play Fair, then there's nothing you can do about it. 

    Wait did you really just write that, of course they're not trying to play fair they're trying to live. Isn't that the same logic killer mains use that you're not trying to play fair. that you're trying to kill the survivors and thus will do whatever you can o accomplish that.

    This game was never intended to be played using voice com. It's giving those survivors an unfair advantage over other survivors that don't use it.

    I understand that it's fun to play with your friends and that you get good laughs while doing so. That's why I think voice com should be a part of the game and that it should then be balanced around it.

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.
  • Justicar
    Justicar Member Posts: 319

    I have a few things that are pretty much auto-dodge:

    • Twitch Name? Dodge. I'm not your entertainment source.
    • 3 or 4 player SWF? No thank you, not dealing with that game-breaking nonsense.
    • More than one red-ping? Dealing with that isn't fun for anyone involved.

    Pretty much everything else is game on, though.

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @SovererignKing said:
    Eveline said:

    Nope. I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me to be the villain and it's kinda lonely.

    Didn't find it hard at all. When I played both of them I had more trouble getting to that rank as a survivor even tho I played survivor more. I love how people just assume things. Especially the same one that got offended by my posts and keep witch hunting trying to provoke me.

    Getting to Rank 1 as Killer is much harder these days than it was in the past. Most of all for us on PS4, Survivors didn’t know what the hell they were doing. Now, they do. I always knew it was just a matter of time. Survivors on PS4 know the Loops, know the maps, know the Gen locations and totem spawns, have all the best perks. Game has changed for us on PS4 Eveline. I invite you to try Killer to Rank 1 again. 

    Its not hard since piping is still very easy. but it is very frustrating because of the survivor / SWF you have to verse

    Wait half a year or maybe a year, then the survivors will really know how to loop :wink:

  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    So.. this thread talks about killer entitlement.. but survivors are the ones who DC because they missed DS or couldn't get Deliverance to work or disconnect because they got outplayed or disconnect to keep their items.. the list goes on.. Killers have to take what they can get while the survivors think they have the privilege to get everything they want.. 

    Yes... Been like this for a long time...

    No one should be DC'ing at all except for emergencies. If you want to be selfish and DC because you don't like the map, offerings, Meg's hair, be prepared to pay for it later. I won't rescue people who I have seen do things like this. Let them die on the hook since they were useless in prior matches anyways. That goes for the stupid "Wah wah! I just missed my DS skillcheck! I need my mommy!" DCs that happen. Suck it up and play the match out. Not everything in life is fun, fair, or balanced. You might actually learn something other than how to feed your sad, little ego.

    Killers get their opportunity to lobby dodge, so them DC'ing is pretty stupid imo. I don't mind a dodge because I know how nasty it can get at higher Ranks. They do get their opportunity though pre-match, and I'd rather them do it there than waste my Offerings for whatever reason. I'll just queue up again and get my 5 second matchmaking. Solo queue makes for extremely quick match finding.

  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    @Mringasa I find the cause of this communities problems are the overwhelming amounts of toxic content creators.. all these fans of those people want to copy them and have every match play out how they want because that's how the streams/videos went.. I want what's best for this game but the community will be the death of it at this rate. 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    This game was never intended to be played using voice com. It's giving those survivors an unfair advantage over other survivors that don't use it.

    True but it's been here for a long time and the devs are trying to address it by buffing solo up to that level and then buffing killers.

    I understand that it's fun to play with your friends and that you get good laughs while doing so. That's why I think voice com should be a part of the game and that it should then be balanced around it.

    That won't work until they get dedicated servers since p2p combined with 1 crappy internet or Console makes it unviable.

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team even if it's not swf then turn around and say it was due to swf. The group could be 2 solos and 2 swf and yet it's swf 4 man ds/flashlight etc.

  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    @powerbats uh huh.. you keep telling yourself that kid.. This game is clearly survivor sided whether you like to admit that or not.. I've literally never DC'd from any match but the survivors I go against.. clearly they are the entitled ones.. your defence of them is depressing.. I won't be replying to this survivor main further now.. I've got more important things to do.. like watching grass grow.. that would be more interesting then this.. Bye now
  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    I think part of the problem is that Killers DC for the same stupid reasons that Survivors DC. They got outplayed. I know how horrible it is facing a 4-man SWF squad, but Killers do have the option pre-match to dodge it and move on to the next. It's one of the reasons I would love either an SWF indicator or a BP boost for the Killer. It would prevent a lot of the DCs, imo at least. It's just tough to know who is SWF and who isn't right now, unless you want to spend the time to check Profiles (If they aren't private) and figure it out. That is stupid imo because you shouldn't have to do that just to get a decent game.

    Both sides of the game DC for ridiculous reasons, and it boils down to them not being able to accept that they either lost the match or got outplayed. Survivors do DC a whole lot more though. Most of the Killer DCs I see are due to Map Offerings, very rare they'll DC towards the end of the match. Survivors will DC because they got downed, found first, DS skillcheck miss, bad flashlight save, misdropped pallet, "oh no, it might be a Mori" etc etc. If more people were willing to just suck it up and keep on with the match though, you might see less toxic behavior rather than more. Be good sports about it all, and remember that the next match is about 3 clicks away so it's not the end of the world.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068
    edited October 2018

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    @powerbats uh huh.. you keep telling yourself that kid.. This game is clearly survivor sided whether you like to admit that or not.. I've literally never DC'd from any match but the survivors I go against.. clearly they are the entitled ones.. your defence of them is depressing.. I won't be replying to this survivor main further now.. I've got more important things to do.. like watching grass grow.. that would be more interesting then this.. Bye now

    Ah yes more of the expected Ad Hominem and Straw Mans with Red Herrings thrown in for failed measure, now let me give you some facts.

    1. I'm not a kid and in fact amn a few weeks away from my 53rd birthday yet I'm still a kid at heart, I laugh, I still watch Bug's Bunny and Scooby Doo because they're funny.

    2. I've said on countless occasions the game is survivor sided and posted ideas on how to improve it, you read the same earlier. yet you still decided to ignore that just to throw out more insults.

    3. @SovererignKing posted it already but I'll say the same once again, there's entitled players on both sides. The fact you ignore it proves quite clearly who the entitled one is.

    4. I defend both sides when I see the need and also call out both sides as well. The fact you equate that with my defending dc's is hilarious. Someone calling out a side is defending the other for doing the same when I've never once said that.

    5. You're doing exactly what i called you out for, deflection when you can't argue a point combined with insults then a full scale surrender and dodge. You've obviously got more important things to do than deal with facts and truth.

    6.Then the final surrender comes in after another failed attempt at dodging, if and when you want to have an actual debate I'll be here.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Ever been smacked on the hook repeatedly for no damn reason? Ever been slugged and the Wraith just walks behind you ringing his bell over and over, letting you Bleed our for two minutes nodding his head? Blocked in a corner and shocked repeatedly by a Doc for the whole match? 
  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642
    Mringasa said:

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    So.. this thread talks about killer entitlement.. but survivors are the ones who DC because they missed DS or couldn't get Deliverance to work or disconnect because they got outplayed or disconnect to keep their items.. the list goes on.. Killers have to take what they can get while the survivors think they have the privilege to get everything they want.. 

    Yes... Been like this for a long time...

    No one should be DC'ing at all except for emergencies. If you want to be selfish and DC because you don't like the map, offerings, Meg's hair, be prepared to pay for it later. I won't rescue people who I have seen do things like this. Let them die on the hook since they were useless in prior matches anyways. That goes for the stupid "Wah wah! I just missed my DS skillcheck! I need my mommy!" DCs that happen. Suck it up and play the match out. Not everything in life is fun, fair, or balanced. You might actually learn something other than how to feed your sad, little ego.

    Killers get their opportunity to lobby dodge, so them DC'ing is pretty stupid imo. I don't mind a dodge because I know how nasty it can get at higher Ranks. They do get their opportunity though pre-match, and I'd rather them do it there than waste my Offerings for whatever reason. I'll just queue up again and get my 5 second matchmaking. Solo queue makes for extremely quick match finding.

    Pay later?
    The devs even support derank in via dcig,  why are you surprised that people dc then :lol:
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @powerbats said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Camp, and sit there and smack them, pick them up and drop them repeatedly and never hook them. you could also say a rank 1 killer that's intentionally depipped to 15 to terrorize noobs qualifies.

    Camping is legal gameplay and not bullying.
    Even smacking them on the hook is BM and the only thing that I would see the same as tbagging for killer, but ingame it doesn't benefit the killer -because it makes unhooks in his face possible- and it does not prolong the game in any way.
    Pick up and drop isn't bullying either, because the survivor will get free at some point.
    Never hooking is slugging and that's also a legal tactic. You can't take a game hostage by slugging, because they bleed out and the killer is robbing himself of points. I know a lot of people hate getting slugged, but you know what, I also hate getting smacked with a machete, but that is actually the game.
    Intentional depipping is done by just LEAVING the match and not playing it at all. Is that fair for those that waste their offerings? No, but it isn't bullying in my book.

    The only real bullying that I could make up is farming the last survivor if no hatch is available or taking the game hostage by bodyblocking (real hostage, like 1/2 hr and more, not just 2 min).

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642
    SovererignKing said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Ever been smacked on the hook repeatedly for no damn reason? Ever been slugged and the Wraith just walks behind you ringing his bell over and over, letting you Bleed our for two minutes nodding his head? Blocked in a corner and shocked repeatedly by a Doc for the whole match? 
    When someone hits me on the hook, I simply go afk and come back later.  I'm not gonna be safed anyway 

    The other things? No never happened to me
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @SovererignKing said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Ever been smacked on the hook repeatedly for no damn reason? Ever been slugged and the Wraith just walks behind you ringing his bell over and over, letting you Bleed our for two minutes nodding his head? Blocked in a corner and shocked repeatedly by a Doc for the whole match? 

    Actually no, never. Most likely I do not play toxic.

    But still I already mentioned above that plays like that are like tbagging (hooksmacks, bell ringing, etc).
    But camping and slugging in itself are not "bullying"
    All those playstyles might harass a single player of that team, but for the team overall it is a free win.
    "Bullying" the killer is toying with them to show how that he can't do anything about it and wasting the killers time.
    Killer can't really do that without downright giving a free win to the rest of the team.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Wolf74 said:

    Camping is legal gameplay and not bullying.
    Even smacking them on the hook is BM and the only thing that I would see the same as tbagging for killer, but ingame it doesn't benefit the killer -because it makes unhooks in his face possible- and it does not prolong the game in any way.

    Actually those are both incorrect since certain killers can move themselves inside the characters models making unhooks impossible.

    So it does prolong the game because survivors will try and get that person off the hook.

    Pick up and drop isn't bullying either, because the survivor will get free at some point.

    Actually that's also incorrect since i had a game where the killer repeatedly did this for over 15 minutes and would enver hook me. They eventually just let me bleed out and I've had other killers do it to where i'm 1 second from bleeding out after that and then hook me.

    Never hooking is slugging and that's also a legal tactic. You can't take a game hostage by slugging, because they bleed out and the killer is robbing himself of points. I know a lot of people hate getting slugged, but you know what, I also hate getting smacked with a machete, but that is actually the game.
    Intentional depipping is done by just LEAVING the match and not playing it at all. Is that fair for those that waste their offerings? No, but it isn't bullying in my book.

    Slugging is fine, but slugging and then picking up and repeating the process over and over to drag the game out like my point above is holding the game hostage.

    The only real bullying that I could make up is farming the last survivor if no hatch is available or taking the game hostage by bodyblocking (real hostage, like 1/2 hr and more, not just 2 min).

    As I stated above in addition to your reasons those are also valid.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Nothing I said is "incorrect".
    Even if he is exploiting to "facecamp", it does not prolong the game, the guy on the hook is dead in 2 min and versus a dedicated camper any save attemtps are stupid no matter what, so that is the survivors fault.
    And if some killer picks you up and keeps dropping you for 15 min that's a BUG.
    Even if the killer tries to slug all it is NOT bullying. It is a legal tactic. Unpleasent to be on the recieving end, but not bullying.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Wolf74 said:
    Nothing I said is "incorrect".
    Even if he is exploiting to "facecamp", it does not prolong the game, the guy on the hook is dead in 2 min and versus a dedicated camper any save attemtps are stupid no matter what, so that is the survivors fault.
    And if some killer picks you up and keeps dropping you for 15 min that's a BUG.
    Even if the killer tries to slug all it is NOT bullying. It is a legal tactic. Unpleasent to be on the recieving end, but not bullying.

    I should've clarified what they were doing is carrying me and then dropping me hoping I'd wiggle which I did and got more bonus points. The killer thought they were pissing em off by doing this but I was laughing the entire time.

    They knew i'd killed their DH totem so they wanted to in their own words make me suffer but I got a ton of bonus BP that way.

    The other one that kept doing it also wanted me to suffer but wasn't slugging since in both cases I was the last survivor. I was dead on hook automatically so they were in fact holding the game hostage no different than when survivors do what killer complain about.

    The 2nd killer was hoping i'd dc and lose all my bp and post game even said so.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @powerbats said:

    I should've clarified what they were doing is carrying me and then dropping me hoping I'd wiggle which I did and got more bonus points. The killer thought they were pissing em off by doing this but I was laughing the entire time.

    They knew i'd killed their DH totem so they wanted to in their own words make me suffer but I got a ton of bonus BP that way.

    The other one that kept doing it also wanted me to suffer but wasn't slugging since in both cases I was the last survivor. I was dead on hook automatically so they were in fact holding the game hostage no different than when survivors do what killer complain about.

    The 2nd killer was hoping i'd dc and lose all my bp and post game even said so.

    Thanks for supporting my point.
    Nothing they did benefited them or made you suffer. Nothing they did was holding the game hostage.

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642
    powerbats said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    Camping is legal gameplay and not bullying.
    Even smacking them on the hook is BM and the only thing that I would see the same as tbagging for killer, but ingame it doesn't benefit the killer -because it makes unhooks in his face possible- and it does not prolong the game in any way.

    Actually those are both incorrect since certain killers can move themselves inside the characters models making unhooks impossible.

    So it does prolong the game because survivors will try and get that person off the hook.

    Pick up and drop isn't bullying either, because the survivor will get free at some point.

    Actually that's also incorrect since i had a game where the killer repeatedly did this for over 15 minutes and would enver hook me. They eventually just let me bleed out and I've had other killers do it to where i'm 1 second from bleeding out after that and then hook me.

    Never hooking is slugging and that's also a legal tactic. You can't take a game hostage by slugging, because they bleed out and the killer is robbing himself of points. I know a lot of people hate getting slugged, but you know what, I also hate getting smacked with a machete, but that is actually the game.
    Intentional depipping is done by just LEAVING the match and not playing it at all. Is that fair for those that waste their offerings? No, but it isn't bullying in my book.

    Slugging is fine, but slugging and then picking up and repeating the process over and over to drag the game out like my point above is holding the game hostage.

    The only real bullying that I could make up is farming the last survivor if no hatch is available or taking the game hostage by bodyblocking (real hostage, like 1/2 hr and more, not just 2 min).

    As I stated above in addition to your reasons those are also valid.

    Show me a clip of that moving inside the hooked survivors. This should be impossible and has been fixed as far as I know.

    If the killer keeps dropping you, you gain wiggle progress and escape his grasp

    Slugging is not holding the game hostage because there is the bleed out timer ticking down.
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    Wolf74 said:

    @SovererignKing said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team

    Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Ever been smacked on the hook repeatedly for no damn reason? Ever been slugged and the Wraith just walks behind you ringing his bell over and over, letting you Bleed our for two minutes nodding his head? Blocked in a corner and shocked repeatedly by a Doc for the whole match? 

    Actually no, never. Most likely I do not play toxic.

    But still I already mentioned above that plays like that are like tbagging (hooksmacks, bell ringing, etc).
    But camping and slugging in itself are not "bullying"
    All those playstyles might harass a single player of that team, but for the team overall it is a free win.
    "Bullying" the killer is toying with them to show how that he can't do anything about it and wasting the killers time.
    Killer can't really do that without downright giving a free win to the rest of the team.

    You’re correct. Camping and and slugging are tactics. However the Wraith who slugged me, I was last alive for that match and on the floor. He just walked behind me ringing his bell until I was JUST about to die and then he picked me up and hooked me. How is that not bullying a Survivor? 
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @SovererignKing said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @SovererignKing said:

    Wolf74 said:

    @powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

People often forget that everyone who's playing is a human. Who also wants to have fun. Not get bullied by swf groups that hook farm or bully the killer.

    The same is true for survivors then, who wants to get bullied by an experienced killer that intentionally depips to terrorize newbs.

    You also have to remember that killers like to bully survivors and get mad when they get outplayed by a team



Serious question: How can a killer "bully" survivor?

    Ever been smacked on the hook repeatedly for no damn reason? Ever been slugged and the Wraith just walks behind you ringing his bell over and over, letting you Bleed our for two minutes nodding his head? Blocked in a corner and shocked repeatedly by a Doc for the whole match? 

    Actually no, never. Most likely I do not play toxic.

    But still I already mentioned above that plays like that are like tbagging (hooksmacks, bell ringing, etc).

    But camping and slugging in itself are not "bullying"

    All those playstyles might harass a single player of that team, but for the team overall it is a free win.

    "Bullying" the killer is toying with them to show how that he can't do anything about it and wasting the killers time.

    Killer can't really do that without downright giving a free win to the rest of the team.

    You’re correct. Camping and and slugging are tactics. However the Wraith who slugged me, I was last alive for that match and on the floor. He just walked behind me ringing his bell until I was JUST about to die and then he picked me up and hooked me. How is that not bullying a Survivor? 

    I already answered that.
    But again, it might be unpleasant , but it is only very temporary, since the bleedout timer will end it soon.
    Killer getting bullied can take ages.
    Ever encountered a flashlight squad that made hooks almost impossible?
    Or just the regular conga row of hook blocking?
    Killer can't do anything similar to a team… they can mock and BM the last survivor, but that's about it.
    As long as other survivor are alive, killer can't seriously bully the team without giving up the match.

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    edited October 2018
    @powerbats
    Don't bother. People are blind and one sided in this game and that is what makes it even more toxic. There is no good or bad side when it comes to what kind of people play this game and being toxic is a trait that both killers and survivors have in equal numbers.

    When I started, I felt sorry for all killers too and thought survivors were more toxic until I played for two months. 
  • CornChip
    CornChip Member Posts: 540

    Solving problems? Problem solved.

  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    Wolf74 said:

    @Eveline said:
    Why am I dodged then? I am always solo. Oh yeah because the killer suspects I may be an swf. Do you realise how ridiculous this is? 

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?
    Are they 3 SWF?
    Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?
    Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?
    Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?

    Are they 3 SWF?

    Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?

    Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?

    Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 

    erm… what?

  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?

    Are they 3 SWF?

    Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?

    Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?

    Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 

    erm… what?

    That was my thinking too 🤭
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

    Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?

Are they 3 SWF?

Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?

Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?

Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 

    erm… what?

    That was my thinking too 🤭

    Very funny... rolleyes

    I actually do not understand what you want to tell or ask me, but if you can't explain… nevermind.

  • slingshotsurvivor
    slingshotsurvivor Member Posts: 943
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

    Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team?

Are they 3 SWF?

Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights?

Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing?

Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 

    erm… what?

    That was my thinking too 🤭

    Very funny... rolleyes

    I actually do not understand what you want to tell or ask me, but if you can't explain… nevermind.

    All the things in your list are cosmetics or tools and those are the reasons for why killers lobby dodge? 
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Tsulan said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team? Are they 3 SWF? Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights? Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing? Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 



erm… what?

    That was my thinking too 🤭

    Very funny... rolleyes

    I actually do not understand what you want to tell or ask me, but if you can't explain… nevermind.

    All the things in your list are cosmetics or tools and those are the reasons for why killers lobby dodge? 

    Killers are on a really tight time frame and under constant pressure. Survivors don´t really feel pressured unless only 3 load in with 5 gens. (which btw, should be the normal game mode)
    So when survivors bring in toolboxes they significantly decrease the time it takes to finish the gens. Which is already to fast, considering that survivors can finish all 5 gens in 3 minutes (1 survivor being chased by the killer).
    Flashlights are rarely used for saving other survivors, but mainly to annoy the killer.
    Bright outfits usually mean survivors which want to get the attention of the killer to get chased. They know how to loop and bring crutches like DS and/or Insta heals.

    Pretty much everything said. Thanks Tsulan.^^

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

    Wolf74 said:

    @slingshotsurvivor said:

Wolf74 said:

    YOU are solo... but did you check the rest of your team? Are they 3 SWF? Did your team sport like 2+ toolboxes or flashlights? Did they have legacy clothing? Bright clothing? Toxic names? Twitch or YouTube tags in their name?

    So what you're saying is.. Because you played the game and used the tools it's not okay? 



erm… what?

    That was my thinking too 🤭

    Very funny... rolleyes

    I actually do not understand what you want to tell or ask me, but if you can't explain… nevermind.

    All the things in your list are cosmetics or tools and those are the reasons for why killers lobby dodge? 

    Killers are on a really tight time frame and under constant pressure. Survivors don´t really feel pressured unless only 3 load in with 5 gens. (which btw, should be the normal game mode)
    So when survivors bring in toolboxes they significantly decrease the time it takes to finish the gens. Which is already to fast, considering that survivors can finish all 5 gens in 3 minutes (1 survivor being chased by the killer).
    Flashlights are rarely used for saving other survivors, but mainly to annoy the killer.
    Bright outfits usually mean survivors which want to get the attention of the killer to get chased. They know how to loop and bring crutches like DS and/or Insta heals.

    Pretty much everything said. Thanks Tsulan.^^

    No problem ;)

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Tsulan said:

    No problem ;)

    A lot of people that do not play "enough" or "high ranking" matches, don't see it coming, but when I see a bright colored Claudette with a med kit or a flashlight, I KNOW she wants to be chased. The Medkit will be insta or the flashlight is used to click at me to get attention.
    If someone with a streamer tag is not ready up as a plain Dwight, I KNOW he will last second swap to P3 Claudette.
    When I see profiles with hidden friendslists, but public groups like DBD-survivor-teammate-finder or Ochido fan group, I just know what to expect.
    etc.
    etc.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Stalking the prey at the campfire is already part of the match.
    The killer is meant to be able to prepare for the hunt.
    Or just choose what prey to pick or not.
    If they are to well equipped, just come back another night to chase them (aka dodge).
    If survivor would play smart, they would not be the 3rd at the campfire picking a toolbox.