What is a thing we all agree on?

That the Clown is sexy?

Adjust Killer Hitbox to match Survivor Hitbbox

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Nerf Nurse / Spirit / Hag / Spirit / Freddy / PH

a trade i would always make :D

no.

No matter how much bs this game puts us through we'll probably still keep playing.

Disagree with 2 somewhat and 4 extremely. It makes no sense to individually buff almost every killer even if you think the game balance is skewed towards survivors. If almost every killer were actually that weak killer as a whole should be buffed.

My take is that we should nerf Nurse, Spirit, Hag, and Freddy along with a buff to the killer side in general. Same result, way less work, and way more time for other needed improvements :)

As for the keys / moris discussion, I think moris are just in a different league than keys. I see Moris as the single most OP thing in the game, while keys are strong but borderline fine.

• Killers can prep for keys in the lobby (unless someone's switching them in at 0:06, but people almost never do that in my experience), but survivors can't prep for moris.
• Keys take up an item slot, meaning you have to forego items with much more utility for most of the match to bring one. Meanwhile, Moris are in the offering slot where most everything else has almost no tangible impact on the match.
• There are many counters to keys: Franklin's, Moris, tunneling and/or camping, pressuring gens so the hatch never spawns and slugging for the 4k, etc. There are no real counters to Moris other than so thoroughly outplaying the killer that they never get a second down (or get it late enough that it doesn't matter).
• Moris are much easier to use that keys, available counters aside. Moris you just need to down a survivor twice. You should be able to kill at least one survivor early in almost every match you play if you want to. If you're not tunneling you're just being generous. Keys require surviving and keeping your key until the hatch spawns and finding the hatch before the killer can find and down you.
• Moris are much more common in bloodwebs than keys, especially for killers like Huntress that don't have the normal amount of ultra rare add-ons.
• Keys aren't useful in the majority of matches. If you're the last survivor and find the hatch, if you're able to open the exit gate, or if you die early the key isn't really useful.
• Last but certainly not least, Moris drastically alter the course of the match while keys generally don't make a difference until the very end. Moris just about guarantee a 4k or 3k + hatch if the skill of the killer and survivors are comparable. If you're using a key usually the main thing it changes is the amount of kills the killer gets at the end; the game progresses as normal up until the point where a key is used, so both sides get to have their fun as normal.

For all of these reasons, keys don't really bother me while playing killer. I wouldn't be sad if they got nerfed or reworked, but I also don't think they really need to be. 3k + hatch and 4k feel about the same to me. As survivor, though, Moris are definitely a wet blanket.

Sorry for the novel lol

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people would agree with changes that reduce the grind.

the game needs options for colorblind people

There needs to be another similar successful game that is actual competition for DBD to push the devs to really focus on fixing game health. Right now the game can have all the current issues because it's not like the players have another similar game they can go play instead.

Yeah. I'm still not so sure the game is as tilted against the killer side as many on the forum would say (the last stats we have say the opposite, for example), but if killers are underperforming then agreed.

The only bit of the rest that I'd respond to is the "If you bring a key you are almost guaranteed to escape if you manage to remain undetected for long enough or you´re the last survivor alive." The vast majority of games nowadays, if you bring a key, you get tunneled. Franklin's is extremely common too, especially if there's another key or map. If you manage to survive and keep your key until the hatch spawns while avoiding a killer that is specifically targeting you and likely running Franklin's, I see no particular issue with you being able to consume a very rare or ultra rare item to escape.

Just anecdotally, the majority of the time I bring a key, I don't get to use it. Either I get tunneled out of the game / Mori'd / Franklins'd before I get a chance or I use the gate / open hatch instead of needing the key. Every once in a while it's actually the difference between life and death, but that's a lot less common. Almost every time I bring a Mori, though, it's a 4k or 3k + hatch. I don't even like bringing Moris as killer for that reason; it feels like training wheels. I pretty much just save them for dailies.

All in 1 shampoo AND conditioner is an abomination 😭

Agree. He never skips leg day.

Camping KIllers Need to be curbed. i can agree with camping one person at the end of a match ( if you cant keep up with the survivors), but camping all 4 survivors is BS. "CAMPING LEADS TO D/C's", which in turn translates to less chances to hit and hang survivors for BP. Overzealous killers that try to hang everyone in the first 5 minutes of a match should be aware that they are losing BP. Longer matches gets everyone more BP, and lets face it, we all want BP. This isn't "US" against "Them", "WE" like to have fun and earn BP.

If your goal is to be an AZZHOLE, then continue to camp and survivors will continue to body block you and harrass you throughout the match.

The toxicity of this community is a raging wildfire, i've played alot of online games in my 54 years of life, and this is the most toxic game community i have ever seen.

(Killers need to relax a bit and enjoy the game, and survivors need to stop harassing killers just to piss them off, some of us don't harass killers and we get brutalized by upset killers.)

my 2 cents, agree or don't.

"let the trolling begin"