BHVR opened Pandora's Box, so now what happens to Slinger?

I think the most obvious buff would be to make him a 115% killer but at the same time it'd also be really bad for him. It sounds weird but if you nerf his power and give him a movement speed, yeah it makes him better and able to actually loop survivors but at the same time all you're doing is just downgrading his power into a mere hinderence more than anything else. Deathslinger, just like Huntress have a huge reliance on their powers which isn't a bad thing at all. I'd be willing to wager those are the reasons why people really like them after all with Deathslinger you're a man with a gun so of course you wanna shoot a nice giant hole into survivors. Nerfing his power in a way where it just adds more draws only gives him even less of a reason to use it and just turns him into a normal m1 killer, killing his indentity. Personally if people wanna go down the route of slowing down his aiming spam that's fine but I think they should look to buffing the lethality of his gun in turn. Like making the chain snapping being able to down survivors. You can balance Deathslingers weapon in a way that it'll have a huge risk in using it but it can have huge rewards in downing the player too.

Honestly, I just want them to improve his add-ons more than anything. Apart from reload speed, they're genuinely some of the most underwhelming (and boring) add-ons for any one killer in the game.

Even Clown has better ones. And he's the Clown!

I wouldn't mind if he had a PH style change. In return if he got that something like his range and chain duration would probably have to be increased, or depending on how much the zoning hurts him, 115% MS.

They can't because they are not remotely the same.

I main Slinger but regularly play PH too. Pyramid head negates all maneuvering in jungle gyms an loops as his M2 passes through walls. Take the pallet scenario: if you're injured and vault a pallet, Slinger can shoot you but only apply deep wound as he can't physically m1 you. PH could put you in a dying state even if he waits til you turn by leading you a bit and fires through a wall.

Slinger punishes people for making mistakes in dead zones. And from what I've seen, most people get the saltiest when you shoot them tbagging the exit gate and they die.

PH just had to follow your pattern to punish you in any situation.

Since toxic morons said so. It's not like your able to play the game the way you want, that would be 'sillly'

Let's not forget the fact there's a lot more needing fixed than deathslingers power that as the devs said, "Is like an fps" ie you can insta shot and is the point of said power. As someone who plays both killer and survivor equally, the problem is that survivors decide not to adapt and whine killers into the ground instead. You're a killer you should have all of the power and every game should be an actual struggle. So in all technicality, I think there's quite a few survivor oriented things that need to be nerfed.

42 ping so good to know I've faced nothing but potatoes despite me being rank 1. Good to know.

You 100% can and should change his zoning. As with PH's changes, this nerf would of course be accompanied with other buffs. The problem isn't his strength; it's his ability to zone. So, the solution isn't to nerf him.

I like the idea of moving him onto the 115%/32m TR model and giving him a longer chain in exchange for much increased ADS time, but there are plenty of routes they could take to tweak him.

She is in a dead zone in this particular clip, but that doesn't change anything tbh. Let's imagine there was a pallet right where she got downed. If she hadn't juked, she would have had kept enough distance to easily make the pallet. However, she would have been a sitting duck for the Deathslinger. The second he aims down sight once or twice and sees that she doesn't dodge in the slightest he can just shoot her in the back for an easy down. If this isn't your first chase with the survivor and they haven't dodged all match you don't even need to bother baiting a dodge. You can just shoot.

You can apply this same situation to most tiles in the game. If the survivor happens to be in a reasonably strong, reasonably round loop the Deathslinger can't shoot over, sure, they can run him like they could a Huntress in that same situation and he's going to have a bad time. Most tiles aren't like that, though, and his TR is miniscule with M&A and because it spins up more slowly/quietly than the default TR, so you really don't get to pick where you engage him. Most of the time tiles like that are nowhere close and you're pushed right into the classic lose/lose.

Legion is a good comparison, actually. They are my least favorite killer in the game, narrowly in front of Deathslinger and Pyramid Head, because they essentially get free deep wounds on the first survivor they see when their Frenzy is ready, and then they jet off to go chase someone else. That's no fun for the survivor, because they basically can't do anything about getting hit and then just need to sit there holding M1, but Legion is still weak because they don't have much to help them land a second hit.

I think Legion needs a full rework to their power so that it's no longer based on free deep wounds, while also making them more deadly. I think Deathslinger also needs the PH treatment. Like PH, Deathslinger's strength isn't really the issue. He's actually a lot weaker than PH and could benefit from some buffs. The issue is just the lack of counterplay in the chase. I don't want to have to hope the killer is bad or that I'm standing in a perfect tile when he shows up. I want to be able to make skillful plays to extend chases and also give the killer ample opportunity to make skillful plays to shorten chases.

Regardless of the subject, your entire argument is 'I think it's fine the way it is because I like how it plays and I've gotten used to it. We shouldn't change him because my enjoyment is all that matters.'

Like I'm sorry but the game isn't going to cater to you because you don't want things to change. I'm sure the people who loved the old insta heals didn't want them to change because they got used to abusing that power, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have changed because it would hurt their feelings and how they got used to using them. It was objectively the right thing to do and it's a shame it took as long as it did to implement the change.

You have to look at things objectively because the goal isn't to be subjective to protect your feelings. The goal is to find a middle ground where a majority of people are happy because there will always be that one guy who doesn't agree, so you can't please them all. In this case most people agree SOMETHING needs to change with hin and this isn't even just about him, this goes for anything that needs to be tweaked or outright reworked. It isn't about solely you.

'You just keep running cuz he slower' and get shot. You seemed to miss the whole point of you dodge, you lose distance, but if you keep going, you just get shot. It's really that simple.

Yeah, let's pretend he wasn't going to catch up to her there regardless and bloodlusting doesn't exist.

'Or drop the pallet' forgetting there wasn't one in the scenario given. And even if there was it would depend on what pallet because there are umpteen pallets that, if he shoots you over them, he can just slide on around and hold you in place to get a hit anyway. Which tends to be a lot of pallets he's able to do that with.

I'm pretty sure they're just baiting, lol. Before their ban they were one of the most well known survivor players on here. Now all of a sudden they've turned into an avid killer supporter.

This is stupid. I feel like the point of this whole post is to nerf yet another killer and make him close to impossible to play like with the nurse nerf where people have to now blink perfectly without a single mistake or you lose. Nerfing his m2 will mean that a lot more is riding on that single shot and not only that you won't have the ability to get quick shots in. These posts just prove to me that every time a killer gets nerfed the survivor masses pick a new target...