Is it ok to openly DC in front of an audience?
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I've seen a few content creators openly DC (or openly admitting to DC) in front of an audience, however, I haven't seen anyone say to their audience directly to start DCing though.
I know talking about content creators is a really touchy subject but this is just something that seems so irregular to me. It just seems a really bad thing to do even if you aren't promoting it because people will do what content creators do.
(obv don't name and shame k thanks)
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Its not ok to disconnect unless you are bugged or in an emergency
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It’s not ok but we know many do it, even the ones that will admit that players shouldn’t do it.
Lets be honest. The game regularly induces frustration that clouds our judgement and sense of reason.
As long as it’s not a blatantly promoted or encouraged behaviour, that’s kind of all I care about.
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To this day outside of I think 2 dropped internet DCs, I have never disconnected from a single match in DBD.
But getting Haddonfield offerings two times in a row while playing Blight and the first thing I see is OoO... That got me pretty close. I didn't do it because I don't want to start doing it for every little thing that doesn't go my way, but at some point I can see why so many do when there's no penalty. But don't do it at the start of the match on the first M1. I've seen plenty of survivors get hooked first and escape just fine. I know it feels like "I'm found the first time EVERY SINGLE MATCH" when you're playing solo queue sometimes, but that doesn't mean much by the end of the game.
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I don't get how blight on Haddonfield could be that bad, since he counters the "hold w tech", which is why most players have that map.
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The buildings and, surprisingly, the extremely long fences can be an issue. If someone's out in the middle of the street, they're dead easy. Ugh, and all the damned bushes that go on too long. The long fences can be easy hits if the survivor goes in and you're charging, but so many have a damn window or a way through at just the right length in many chases to somehow make it even more annoying than on a basic M1 killer.
That said, it's not like a tremendously difficult map, it's just full of a lot of really annoying little things, and if the survivors are good and know how to deal with Blight, it's gonna be a real slog, let alone how easy it is to lose Blight over waist-high walls.
I'm generally less irritated to go to Lery's as Blight, and some of the entryways in that place basically make your power work double-time in the survivor's favor.
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I'd say it depends. In most cases I'd say DCs should be penalized but, for example, yesterday I watched a well known Killer main streamer disconnect from a match because one of the Survivors disconnected after being hooked and another one was AFK, so he felt the match was going to be unfair on the Survivors.
In my opinion this was a kind gesture from him, but I wish the game could implement a way to vote a surrender and allow all the remaining players to decide wether the match should continue or not, like a safe way to exit a game without harming those who were playing by the rules.
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Yeah there is nothing wrong with it, whether is was for comedic effect or just because it was a boring game there is nothing wrong with it.
To DC is in the choice of the streamer, it could look stupid on your end or funny/understandable.
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I think the more interesting question than general acceptability is the official response: would/do they actually punish people who even flagrantly DC in front of their audience?
If not, well, I think that answers the other question more more honestly than any theoretical posturing.
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It depends. Their job is literally to provide content, so being stuck in a farming match or similar situation?
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I wouldn’t bother answering the question guys. Even the slightest comment about disconnects gets you banned on here. Anything against the game rules gets you banned on here.
Though if you break game rules on stream it seems you get to keep fog whisperer status so one rule for thee and another rule for me it seems.
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It's never "okay" per say.
That being said, there are situations where I don't blame people. Like, you spawn in on Hawkins. It's Freddy with Corrupt, Undying, Ruin and Thana...with dual slowdown addons.
For me? That's a hard pass. I'll tank the 5 minute penalty. Knowing completely that it's punishable.
DBD is and always has been carried by streamers. BHVR isn't going to bite the hand that quite literally feeds them.
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Thing about streamers is there ain't no union and there's always more of them trying to make it big.
Taking down a handful of big'uns only sends a message to the other ones to straighten up, while more compliant ones will rise to take place of the others and eventually amass the same following or bigger.
It's a symbiotic relationship where most all are just as reliant on DBD to figuratively feed them too. I don't watch any live streams, but I know some of the names thanks to other video content they've put out on the youtubes that I've tried to learn from and even subscribe to a few. But I sure don't give a ######### about those people beyond the content they produce that's already relevant to me. I imagine that's majorly true for most of the DBD players who follow DBD streamers too.
They matter collectively. Individually, they're as worthless as the rest of us plebs.
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While i do agree that streamers DCing are bassicly giving their audience the green light to do it too
I don't think streamers shouldn't be punished more because of a DC then other people.
The DC penalty just can't return soon enough. That time penalty was perfect for letting DCers cool down before jumping in another game
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The DC penalty shouldn't exist. The game isn't not even close to stable or balanced enough to justify one. The fact that not only does it exist, but it exists and multiples to hours and hours is nonsense. It should never surpass 15 minutes.
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Heavilly disagree.
In my close to 1000 hours in this game i got stuck on a generator twice and stuck in a pallet once. And i didn't have to DC then either cause i could just wait until the survivors did the gens. If you're really having it that you have to DC multiple times in a day because of gamebreaking bugs then i would suggest trying to validating integrity of the game files or reinstalling. I do this every patch, something is always missing, gets fixed and I close to never experience bugs so bad i have to DC.
Also disagree on the balance front. It's not perfectly balanced but as a assymetrical game it never will and it doesn't have to be. People just overexagerate everything in this game. Very little things are so unbalanced they break the game and the things that do end the game very fast. There is 0 reason to DC because of balance.
I had games ruined because of DC tenfolds more then games that were ruined by overpowered stuff or bugs. IMO DC penalties was the healthiest thing that ever happened to this game and i can't wait for it to be back.
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I have a feeling this post will bring me a couple jail buddies.
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I agree with this. I didn't even realize the DC penalties are gone at the moment but it would explain why I've been seeing more people DCing over the smallest things again. DC penalties overall are a very good thing, hope they bring it back soon.
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A certain popular streamer I know has DCed before, only because a killer hit them down. I'm not going to say who they are obviously, but it annoyed me to watch and I immediately left the stream.
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I was in a bad mood that day lol so it may have just contributed to it
Edit: also this person wouldn't stop bitching about moris, so I just left
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If I'd say "ok" one more time, they would ban me. :c
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I mean you could look from the other perspective, did it really touch the streamer that emotionally that the got downed?
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I've also seen another streamer get that emotional because the killer found him and he failed to find a totem in time lmfao
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Ok if they're solo and have died or obviously if it's an emergency or the game crashes
otherwise no.
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lol imagine looping and then dying in real life. that must suck bad
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This.
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you can report them, and then submit a ticket and link it to their VOD so they can see that this person is doing it consistently. It is only ok to use the out of match functionality if you are stuck in the geometry or the game can't end or an emergency comes up. no mater what people say.
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They shouldnt unless the game bugs, there is an insane amount of lag, there is a cheater in the game (friendly or foe) or an external cause like feeling sick or getting an unexpected visit etc.
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Honestly if it is because of a bug (gamebreaking one) or an emergency irl i say it is okay. Anything else no and I do not care for the rest of excuses and justifactions made for it. Yes there can be lots of frustration in this game but this is also the case in other games, when you dc because of that, you shouldn't be able to play any further for a set amount of time which increases with each dc.
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CC issue aside, the problem here is not the DC, the problem is the absence of penalties for a DC.
Even raging can be a valid reason to DC, but there need to be a penalty for the safeguard of others and yourself: if you rage you need a time to cool off, otherwise your mental status will just worsen and worsen, and the likelihood you'll DC the next game as well will become even higher.
Also I'm not saying that "DC due to raging is a valid reason" lightly, at all. But take for example the topic of the guy that spoke with his therapist about how DbD negatively influence his well being - you might argue that they shouldn't play in the first place, but what if everything was fine for them, but then something triggered a very negative response in them? Should they just endure the pain for the sake of the others? Obviously not - there's no game in real life where you have to play, but certainly if you decide to quit there will be consequences (disqualification, fines, bans...).
Until DC penalties are back, DC will grow and grow, to even bigger numbers than they were before, so... let's just hope penalties will be back :).
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I only see streamers DC if they get a crappy map (any of the garbage indoors maps) as killer. Entirely justified in my mind. Ifg I decide to break from the boring meta and play someone like Trapper and you give me Hawkins and then Lerys one after another I don't care how the survivors feel or if there are BP offerings up. I'm out of there.
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As long as it's for the memes and not to promote toxic/exploitative behaviors, it's all good.
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I agree the should go away with a action all together- It cost me plenty of times when 2 quit and you 2 are left on the map. The 100 💯 will lose. Unless you get decent killers!
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If there's a bug. Someone is hacking or the game is unplayable laggy.
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At this point who cares?
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Totally agree. No one should do it full stop. It's one of worst contributors to toxicity in the community and if you do dc you don't deserve to complain about toxicity when you yourself are part of the problem. Even if content do it but don't promote it, audiences will still copy their favourite hip and trendy content creator to be "cool" like them yknow.
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Perfectly put my friend. The game can feel deeply frustrating sometimes, no matter whose to blame it falls upon players to deal with it in a match in a way that is self conscious of their other players. Shame more people can't be like you.
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In resident evil resistance
You get a DC Penalty of 50% less points until you finish 1 quick match.
Literally wasn't my fault I fell asleep waiting on the queue.
Y'all already know world of warcraft will keep you out of a dungeon or raid for 15 minutes if you leave before killing a boss.
Trove will make you miss a fight if your slow to the boss room (lol)
In sea of thiefs you lose EVERYTHING if you quit to welfare warriors.
SOT has everything backwards. Private servers dont let you progress. You can't be a pirate in a pirate simulator game.
Finally more recently
Final fantasy crystal chronicles remastered
You don't keep ANYTHING unless you finish the dungeon. Tough.
(Online play only)
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Exactly. Although things can be annoying, you screw over your team by dcing. If you queue up for a match, stay in it.
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Short answer, no.
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No one DCs when a killers doing bad. That's what bothers me. I just eat it when I have a bad match and eagerly await the next one hopeing it will be a better match.
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Killing themselves early is something I see more than anything making it really hard on the rest of the team and honestly I just unsubscribe to them after they continue to show lack of willingness to promote healthy gameplay.
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DCs atm are making the game borderline unplayable. They kill matches outright.
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DC penalties can't come back fast enough. There were WAY less disconnects when the automated system was up.
And no, ragequitting is in the list of official actions that are considered Unsportsmanlike Conduct that can result in a temporary ban. That's the whole reason they implemented automated bans in the first place. It's still a bannable offense, it's just not being enforced at the moment because they don't have a way to report it. (Hypothetically they could have people send in ingame tickets but I'm guessing they got swamped with them before the automated system was in place so they don't accept them that way now. But who knows?)
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I report every DC that I know isn’t for a. Glitch. Frequent example: hunting someone quickly as a killer and soon I hook them they DC. I only play DBD as a killer, have for years. It got so bad from all the whiners that I had to switch my PS account to friends only could send me messages. I had soooo many mad players sore from them losing.
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I dont consider it okay to DC. Only times I DC is if the power goes out or my Wi-Fi does. I feel like it can hurt the other survivors especially if it happens early in a match.
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Please do not report DC's - we have our own systems for dealing with them, it just wastes the time for the support staff who have to read through the reports.
In answer to the question, unless there's actual emergencies irl or you are bugged in game, something along those lines. Those are the only times it's acceptable to DC - that's why we class it as Unsportsmanlike Behaviour when people DC.
In view of the topic and the fact that we do not promote DC'ing (or Unsportsmanlike Behaviour in general) on this forum, I will close this thread. As the answer has been given.
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