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So I’ve gotta lay low on Xbox

Right now I get around 15 or so angry messages every 10 games. The number is increasing.  People are beginning to recognize me and I was even almost profile raided by a salty streamer. 


Gotta lay low y'all. This is an interesting situation.  

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  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    I just disabled the option that let's people message me on Xbox lol. 
    I have too many friends to have bar luxury lmao. 
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    I just disabled the option that let's people message me on Xbox lol. 
    I have too many friends to have bar luxury lmao. 
    What I meant was only friends can message me now. Anyone not on the friends list doesn't get the option. Though I do sometimes wonder how much of that good salt am I missing out on lol. 
    I’ve got a lot of screesnhots if you’d like a preview. 
  • Blood_Coil_Viper
    Blood_Coil_Viper Member Posts: 199
    I just disabled the option that let's people message me on Xbox lol. 
    I have too many friends to have bar luxury lmao. 
    What I meant was only friends can message me now. Anyone not on the friends list doesn't get the option. Though I do sometimes wonder how much of that good salt am I missing out on lol. 
    I’ve got a lot of screesnhots if you’d like a preview. 
    Nah I see enough of it on Livestreams lol. 
  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    I think I might have played against you, I recognise darkwolf if thats similar to the name you have on xbox. I never message in anger. It's a shame a pretty large chunk of players think their opinion matters, they are worthless for they are meat on a hook.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I get a few friend requests every so often from both sides that after bashing me in post game chat want to add me to do it more lol.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256
    edited October 2018

    I've never gotten an angry message on DbD, but I don't think I have a wall to post on my Steam account. Someone did ######### about me on one of my game reviews instead. hue

    I get a lot of angry whispers on Heroes of the Storm, though.

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  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    I had someone call me garbage after I downed him nodded at him for being toxic. Funny, he's the one who fell for every mindgame in the book and couldn't 360 lol.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Isn't Xbox also still plagued by the issue of: If you get reported a lot, no matter if they're legit reports or not, you get suspended.

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  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    That's what you get for not using a PC!

  • Boss said:

    Isn't Xbox also still plagued by the issue of: If you get reported a lot, no matter if they're legit reports or not, you get suspended.

    That used to be a big issue but thanks to Overwatch, they fixed it. You used to be able to report someone you were in a game with and if enough did it, your rep would go to “Avoid Me” and it would affect your matchmaking in other games. GTA for example would only let you play with people who also had Avoid Me rep. So a bunch of salty survivors could report you for any reason and you’d be screwed in other games (but not DbD funny enough). My rep took a nosedive the day I bought DbD and I couldn’t even play some games because it wouldn’t match me with anyone.

    So now they still take those reports and they still affect your rep, but the rep doesn’t affect matchmaking now. 

    But yeah people are incredibly salty. Just a couple days ago someone on Xbox got mad that I patrolled his hook to close and he got farmed and he informed me that he’s a military veteran with two tours under his belt and has killed people and that he was going to find me and add me to his list LOL.

    What streamer was salty with you? They all get super salty and accuse you of sniping their stream, it’s adorable.
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532

    That's what you get for not using a PC!

    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 
  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    I remember back in the good ole' days of having a bad reputation because of DbD.

    Having a bad rep meant you were a good killer.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Make your profile message settings private, that's what I did.

  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    Console definitely has cheaters but they are mainly lag switching, I had a killer down  someone in front of me and I ran to use a insta heal but he was frozen in the pick up animation and then all of a sudden teleported to a hook and hooked the guy and same match they guy machine gun hit someone twice with the hag and wasn’t running unrelenting or anything to recover from swings
  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    @Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    I don't think its so much believing that it doesn't happen, it just appears that it doesn't seem to happen as often, or at least doesn't get reported / recorded as often as it does on pc.

    Honest question since I'm genuinely interested and tragically non tech minded, is it a lot easier to cheat via pc than on console? Is that why it seems abundant on pc and not so much on console?

  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611

    @Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    I don't think its so much believing that it doesn't happen, it just appears that it doesn't seem to happen as often, or at least doesn't get reported / recorded as often as it does on pc.

    Honest question since I'm genuinely interested and tragically non tech minded, is it a lot easier to cheat via pc than on console? Is that why it seems abundant on pc and not so much on console?

    It’s easier for pc to modify game files than console this is why you see speed hacking etc on pc but the only thing you can really get away with on console is lag switching, I’ve never saw any other type of hacker on console though I’m sure it’s possible just probably time consuming 
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Right now I get around 15 or so angry messages every 10 games. The number is increasing.  People are beginning to recognize me and I was even almost profile raided by a salty streamer. 

    Gotta lay low y'all. This is an interesting situation.  

    Sweaty Leatherface Bastard. How dare you killer survivors.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @lyric said:

    Console definitely has cheaters but they are mainly lag switching, I had a killer down  someone in front of me and I ran to use a insta heal but he was frozen in the pick up animation and then all of a sudden teleported to a hook and hooked the guy and same match they guy machine gun hit someone twice with the hag and wasn’t running unrelenting or anything to recover from swings

    Was that the match you and @Vietfox were playing the other night before you joined me and Jenna?

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    fcc2014 said:

    @lyric said:

    Console definitely has cheaters but they are mainly lag switching, I had a killer down  someone in front of me and I ran to use a insta heal but he was frozen in the pick up animation and then all of a sudden teleported to a hook and hooked the guy and same match they guy machine gun hit someone twice with the hag and wasn’t running unrelenting or anything to recover from swings

    Was that the match you and @Vietfox were playing the other night before you joined me and Jenna?

    @fcc2014
    Not sure, i got blurry memories from that night
  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    How would they cheat on console? I am genuinely curious and don't really know how they'd go about it. Obviously on PC it's easy. I mean, don't give a description on how to do it on console..but, you know..."basically speaking".

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited October 2018

    @SoylentPixie said:

    @Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    I don't think its so much believing that it doesn't happen, it just appears that it doesn't seem to happen as often, or at least doesn't get reported / recorded as often as it does on pc.

    Honest question since I'm genuinely interested and tragically non tech minded, is it a lot easier to cheat via pc than on console? Is that why it seems abundant on pc and not so much on console?

    Consoles are just PCs with downgraded hardware. If you can do it on PC, you can do it on console, especially now that Microsoft has decided to use basically the same OS on its consoles that it sells to PC users.
    Piracy is still a thing, cheating is still a thing, and so on. Game companies and console manufacturers would like you to believe those don't happen on consoles because it's cheaper (and therefore more profitable) for publishers to publish games on consoles and it's more profitable for console manufacturers when you need to buy an entirely new rig every few years, as opposed to PC, where development costs go up due to different hardware and user costs go down because you can just upgrade the one part that's bottlenecking your system.

    Think about it: How, exactly, are consoles so different from PCs?

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I’ll take salt over dealing with hackers and cheaters any day of the damn week. 

    On console, you get both, same as on PC.

    How did so many people buy the "consoles don't have hackers and cheaters" propaganda?

    The Xbox one’s hardware is next to impossible to hack because of built in anti-cheat software and The Xbox Live service itself checking for hardware signals. I have yet to see a single hacker and I put at least 40 hours a week into gaming. 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    The Xbox one’s hardware is next to impossible to hack because of built in anti-cheat software and The Xbox Live service itself checking for hardware signals. I have yet to see a single hacker and I put at least 40 hours a week into gaming. 

    You mean like how PC games have built-in anti-cheat software? Also, you do understand that hacking is not a hardware thing, right? Lastly, all software has vulnerabilities, because programmers make mistakes. Whoever says that their software/hardware/whatever is uncrackable will probably also try to sell you a spear that can pierce any shield and a shield that can withstand any spear.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    The Xbox one’s hardware is next to impossible to hack because of built in anti-cheat software and The Xbox Live service itself checking for hardware signals. I have yet to see a single hacker and I put at least 40 hours a week into gaming. 

    You mean like how PC games have built-in anti-cheat software? Also, you do understand that hacking is not a hardware thing, right? Lastly, all software has vulnerabilities, because programmers make mistakes. Whoever says that their software/hardware/whatever is uncrackable will probably also try to sell you a spear that can pierce any shield and a shield that can withstand any spear.

    I understand that, but to allow hacking on an Xbox, you have to directly tamper with the console. You can’t just download modded saves anymore like you could on 360. It is very difficult to hack using Xbox one. I would have seen a hacker by now my account is 13 years old and the first and only time I saw a hacker was in 2013 just before the Xbox One came out. 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I understand that, but to allow hacking on an Xbox, you have to directly tamper with the console. You can’t just download modded saves anymore like you could on 360. It is very difficult to hack using Xbox one. I would have seen a hacker by now my account is 13 years old and the first and only time I saw a hacker was in 2013 just before the Xbox One came out. 

    You overestimate the number of hackers and the amount of work people are willing to put in to hacking consoles when PC has more known vulnerabilities.
    I still remember when people were sucking Apple's dick because "you can't get a virus on Mac". The fact is, they simply hadn't been created yet because people who did that sort of thing didn't consider it worth their time. It's the same on console - while it's definitely possible to hack consoles, and people have done so in the past and will continue to do so in the future, many don't consider it worth their time. Even taking into account the thrill they get from doing it, PC is simply more convenient for daily usage, not to mention the obvious hardware superiority.

  • only1biggs
    only1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    The Xbox one’s hardware is next to impossible to hack because of built in anti-cheat software and The Xbox Live service itself checking for hardware signals. I have yet to see a single hacker and I put at least 40 hours a week into gaming. 

    You mean like how PC games have built-in anti-cheat software? Also, you do understand that hacking is not a hardware thing, right? Lastly, all software has vulnerabilities, because programmers make mistakes. Whoever says that their software/hardware/whatever is uncrackable will probably also try to sell you a spear that can pierce any shield and a shield that can withstand any spear.

    I understand that, but to allow hacking on an Xbox, you have to directly tamper with the console. You can’t just download modded saves anymore like you could on 360. It is very difficult to hack using Xbox one. I would have seen a hacker by now my account is 13 years old and the first and only time I saw a hacker was in 2013 just before the Xbox One came out. 

    Yeah. On PC I see many, especially around free game weekends, but on console, I haven't seen any :/

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    Boss said:

    Isn't Xbox also still plagued by the issue of: If you get reported a lot, no matter if they're legit reports or not, you get suspended.

    That used to be a big issue but thanks to Overwatch, they fixed it. You used to be able to report someone you were in a game with and if enough did it, your rep would go to “Avoid Me” and it would affect your matchmaking in other games. GTA for example would only let you play with people who also had Avoid Me rep. So a bunch of salty survivors could report you for any reason and you’d be screwed in other games (but not DbD funny enough). My rep took a nosedive the day I bought DbD and I couldn’t even play some games because it wouldn’t match me with anyone.

    So now they still take those reports and they still affect your rep, but the rep doesn’t affect matchmaking now. 

    But yeah people are incredibly salty. Just a couple days ago someone on Xbox got mad that I patrolled his hook to close and he got farmed and he informed me that he’s a military veteran with two tours under his belt and has killed people and that he was going to find me and add me to his list LOL.

    What streamer was salty with you? They all get super salty and accuse you of sniping their stream, it’s adorable.

    No streamers got salty with me thus far.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Boss said:

    Isn't Xbox also still plagued by the issue of: If you get reported a lot, no matter if they're legit reports or not, you get suspended.

    No. The Xbox Live Enforcement Team is not automated. They look at who reported you, and search your recent players history to see if the person that reported you has actually played against or with you. If not, the report is immediately disregarded unless it is a party chat communication report. 

    They are very thorough. 
  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    Console cheating is almost non existent, only lagswitching.

    Not many people are willing to risk bricking their system and losing $300 or $400.

  • TheDarkLycan
    TheDarkLycan Member Posts: 435

    @Thetruth said:

    @Boss said:
    Isn't Xbox also still plagued by the issue of: If you get reported a lot, no matter if they're legit reports or not, you get suspended.

    No. Their enforcement team is pretty spot on a well as Sony's.

    not always. I said gg ez to a guy last week and got com banned so....

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    There should be a spot on the forum where you can post screenshots of death threats, death wishes and general mean spirited salt. 

    Maybe some shaming would help people be nicer.
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Orion said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    I understand that, but to allow hacking on an Xbox, you have to directly tamper with the console. You can’t just download modded saves anymore like you could on 360. It is very difficult to hack using Xbox one. I would have seen a hacker by now my account is 13 years old and the first and only time I saw a hacker was in 2013 just before the Xbox One came out. 

    You overestimate the number of hackers and the amount of work people are willing to put in to hacking consoles when PC has more known vulnerabilities.
    I still remember when people were sucking Apple's dick because "you can't get a virus on Mac". The fact is, they simply hadn't been created yet because people who did that sort of thing didn't consider it worth their time. It's the same on console - while it's definitely possible to hack consoles, and people have done so in the past and will continue to do so in the future, many don't consider it worth their time. Even taking into account the thrill they get from doing it, PC is simply more convenient for daily usage, not to mention the obvious hardware superiority.

    I will agree with you this time Orion it is almost non existent on console for the exact reasons you said. It is easier to exploit the game on pc.

  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    .. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    fcc2014 said:

    @lyric said:

    Console definitely has cheaters but they are mainly lag switching, I had a killer down  someone in front of me and I ran to use a insta heal but he was frozen in the pick up animation and then all of a sudden teleported to a hook and hooked the guy and same match they guy machine gun hit someone twice with the hag and wasn’t running unrelenting or anything to recover from swings

    Was that the match you and @Vietfox were playing the other night before you joined me and Jenna?

    No this was like a couple days before I first played with all of you I still have the match recorded but I never posted it in the forums because I didn’t want to be called for naming and shaming
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    .. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
    If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets. 
  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187

    who the ######### are you?

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Radiant said:

    who the [BAD WORD] are you?

    The ######### is your deal, kiddo? 
  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    .. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
    If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets. 
    Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree with you. But don't get banned or warned, I'm pretty sure theres going to be at least one person whose going to say something to a mod. It might be ^ this guy above me
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    edited October 2018
    .. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
    If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets. 
    Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree with you. But don't get banned or warned, I'm pretty sure theres going to be at least one person whose going to say something to a mod. It might be ^ this guy above me
    It’s fine. Not like the forums have been used for good in the last 6 months anyways. It’s just fighting now.  The mods turn a blind eye to toxicity, not saying I’m trying to be toxic, all I am doing is providing an example of someone being an #########, never said to raid them or anything.  Just showing the very unnoticed issue that discourages everyone from playing killer. 
  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    .. Not to be a dick... But isn't this technically name amd shame now?
    If a streamer is willing to be toxic like that on stream, and message me, she deserves everything she gets. 
    Don't get me wrong, I don't really disagree with you. But don't get banned or warned, I'm pretty sure theres going to be at least one person whose going to say something to a mod. It might be ^ this guy above me
    It’s fine. Not like the forums have been used for good in the last 6 months anyways. It’s just fighting now.  The mods turn a blind eye to toxicity, not saying I’m trying to be toxic, all I am doing is providing an example of someone being an #########, never said to raid them or anything.  Just showing the very unnoticed issue that discourages everyone from playing killer. 

    Amen. Tbh I haven't seen toxicity that bad in a good couple of months, you should consider yourself lucky to still get some hilarious salt stories 😁
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    As @Orion said, it's not that consoles can't be hacked it's that the effort isn't worth the cost of doing so and those determined will find a way. As with Pc and now Macs it's always a software side issue and the hardware ones are rare,

    The hardware ones are more prevalent through routers or the sneaky firmware ones that're super difficult to detect and remove. Once consoles become much bigger and more prevalent and the rewards of hacking them are there they'll see an influx of it.

  • Nos37
    Nos37 Member Posts: 4,142

    @only1biggs said:
    How would they cheat on console? I am genuinely curious and don't really know how they'd go about it. Obviously on PC it's easy. I mean, don't give a description on how to do it on console..but, you know..."basically speaking".

    I've had friends on Xbox stop playing PUBG because players with an Xbox One S (or better) could use a specially-formatted external hard drive to pull off things in-game they shouldn't be able to (beyond lag-switching).

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