What are the most SERIOUS ISSUES with DBD?
I have played 2 years on PS4 as a survivor. I'm devotion 26, Rank 1 every season. I have a solid understanding of the issues survivors have to face, both as solo and in swf. But I wanted to narrow down the ones, for both survivor and killer, that are truly ruining the game. If you're a killer and have a list, please contribute. Here's my list for survivor:
- Matchmaking - results in frequent terrible games because teammates are awful
- No remedy for DCs - people should be allowed to DC but at least come up with a system where everyone else doesn't get screwed. Immediately end the game with safety pips for everyone at a minimum. I had a game yesterday where 2 survivors DC'd immediately, within the first 2 seconds of the match. The killer showed no empathy and just slaughtered us.
- OP Killers and Killer builds - Spirit is oppressive and it's insane that survivors have had to tolerate this for so long. Various builds with 2 super strong add ons + ebony mori + indoor map. Killers are able to run insane builds where even a strong SWF doesn't have a chance. Expecting survivors to just suck it up and play an oppressive, unwinnable game is insulting.
- Getting hit after a pallet stun - This shouldn't happen yet happens every game multiple times. Use your dual hit registration to decide that if a stun occurred then a hit didn't occur.
- Camping and tunnelling - A camping killer will get at least 2ks and often 3 or 4, especially vs a team of solos. The Executioner cage system should replace hooks altogether. Camping games are garbage.
- BBQ and NOED - They've been in the game so long it seems people have given up fighting against them but they both need to be nerfed. They are way too strong. It's one of the big reasons highly mobile killers are so oppressive and why good survivors lose games to noob or mediocre killers. Just 'getting in closets' and breaking all 5 totems every game simply isn't practical. I mind game the BBQ using UE but with very limited success.
- Lunges - These need to be toned down a smidge. Kind of ridiculous that i cant fast vault a window if I'm at a slightly off angle yet I can be healing near a pallet, see the killer 15 feet away on the other side of a wall, yet get hit by a lunge that turns 180 degrees around the wall from 15 feet away. Either nerf the steering ability to do 180s, or decrease the distance or speed. Something.
- The various neverending technical issues - Just yesterday had a game where all my HUD elements were missing. No skill checks. Couldn't see teammate indicators, etc. Med kits still heal to 99.9%. I still run into closets near windows instead of vaulting windows because they are the same type of interaction.
- Honorable Mention: Doctor and Indoor Maps - Especially bad when together but both these things separately are mostly awful to play against. Midwich still sucks hard. Hawkins and The Game still suck hard. Doctor is zero fun to play against. I'll hazard a guess that the 2 killers with the most DCs are Spirit and Doctor. The point here is to focus on experiences that should be fun for both sides.
That's my .02. I find that the prevalence of these issues cause the most frustration and sense of imbalance and unfairness with this game. For those killers considering responding, if you could respond with a constructive, mature reply instead of rude and pointless insults it would be appreciated.
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Performance.
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Matchmaking, hands down. DBD is incredibly punishing for new and casual players. For years the community has asked BHVR for a training mode, but year after year the devs continue to say that it's not a priority. And so the rank disparity between player levels can average ten or more levels higher than they should be.
I played a survivor match last night where thanks to SWF matchmaking our team of 7, 5, 4, and 16 was matched against a new rank 15 killer with nothing more than three level one perks to his name. Needless to say we all escaped, and the poor guy only managed one hook.
Bugs and glitches can be annoying, but the matchmaking makes DBD completely unplayable.
I was playing solo btw.
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I play for almost 2 years every single day and I'm devotion 13, is it even possible to be at devotion 26 after 2 years?
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I’ve been playing for about 16 months and I’m devotion 7. I’d love to see some better match making. I’m a rank 11 nurse main and most of my matches consist of red ranks. As the evening goes by they get even crazier. Last match yesterday was a red two purples and a yellow. All the bugs that come and go every patch get me. Like come on guys. Nurse deadzone on Midwich has been there since silent hill launch and still there today just to name a few.
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Matchmaking is the most urgent, but the survivor objective is the biggest core issue.
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Id have to say map design is the biggest issue rn.
EDIT: nvm i'm a dum dum and didn't see that you said you play survivor. Still man, BBQ isn't that big of an issue.
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One can dream as a console player to not get screwed by bloodlust for the 100000th time
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Preach!
Preach loudly so my Xbox can hear ya and finally know it is not alone!!!
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Yeah, no. This guy's pretty clearly a newer player trying to make himself seem more experienced. OhTofu has been playing this game since launch as his literal job, and he's devotion 19. There is no way this guy is devotion 26, and even less of a way he's devotion 26 and thinks that BBQ is overpowered.
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- Entitled players on both sides who want the game to cater to them.
- Rankings and Matchmaking. Ranking up should be more difficult and matchmaking should never let a non-red rank Killer go against red rank Survivors. In a SWF, matchmaking should match the group based on the highest rank in the group.
- Optimization and game performance. They really need to rewrite the game from the ground up, but I understand that the cost of doing so wouldn’t make sense to them.
- No end game. Would be nice if there was some rewards to work up to. Prestiging used to be it for me, but It’s just not enough. Maybe sell some nice cosmetics in the store for an obscene amount of blood points and shards?
- DS, Keys and Moris all need to be changed.
- Something needs to be implemented to prevent camping while 5 gens are still up during solo play with a group of potatoes. I don’t know what it is without possibly breaking the game, but it gets so frustrating when it happens. Granted, matchmaking would help with this.
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Daninahurry is devotion 26 with 11,000 hours. He tends to do long streams though. Unless someone is streaming 8 hours a day and having the game as their fulltime job....I highly doubt it too.
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Easily the biggest issue is a lack of counterplay. DS/UB is clearly the biggest offender, because they are perks and can always be present and so must always be played around and that alone will lose games even if they ARENT present, but there's also Killers with no in-chase counterplay (Nurse, Slinger, Pyramid Head, Spirit), and a certain perk with that just acts as Bad Killer Insurance with no reasonable counterplay, since "do bones" gets the whole team killed while leaving 1 person to die gets 3 escapes. Not exactly fair.
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My biggest complaints with the game are:
Bugs and performance - speaks for itself
Really inept teammates as a solo - speaks for itself. Just add comms already. Make it so the killer can hear as well.
The fact that games are either won too easily or lost too easily. I feel like as killer I'm going to get rekt 2 out of every 3 matches (in red ranks) and then 2 pip in the 3rd game. So I stay in red ranks even though it's really not a lot of fun. Very rarely do I have a 2k game.
And obviously the terrible grind. Too many worthless perks/add-ons. Not enough BP.
I'm sure I could get into more details. But these are the main reasons I'm barely playing at the moment. It's just lost a lot of the fun factor.
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I feel like there isn't enough killer sided issues in this list, not that there needs to be more its a 1v4 game of course.
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Read the post
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1: Match making is terrible. It should be fixed but the devs are more concerned with quicker que times over fairness. The entire ranking system needs to be overhauled. We got reds who can't even loop a pallet and we got veterans with 2k+ hours in brown ranks because they took a long break from the game. We need a real ranking system besides playtime that month.
2: There needs to be a DC penalty. I feel unless someone is legit cheating NO ONE should be allowed to DC. I don't care if you hate fighting a spirit or a Freddy. I paid money for this game too as well as the other 3 people in the match. If I want to play as spirit then damn it I'm going to play spirit. Just because you don't like facing that killer does not give you the right to quit and ruin the game for 4 other people. That would be like a killer quitting every match when he see's a key. You are not the only person in the match. Other people want to have fun besides you.
3: Some killers have OP builds but a lot of the killers can't compete against a good swf. A lot of the weaker killers need to be buffed.
4: Same can be said for survivors. Some builds waste too much of the killer's time. DS+UB+Adren for example. Survivors have a wide range of good to okay perks but they are greatly over shadowed by the 4-6 meta perks. Both sides have a lot of crappy perks I would never consider using outside of a meme build.
5: Map sizes are an issue for killers with low mobility.
6: Keys+Moris
7: solo survivor absolutely sucks. Randoms are terrible but I don't know how you could improve that without making swf even stronger.
8: We need a clear definition of what is considered a Win and a Loss.
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My bad, only read title and list.
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Im just gonna go and take a stab in the dark and say that the OP is a survivor main.
The biggest problem with DbD is the Maps, the 2nd is people playing both survivor and killer not admitting their mistakes. 3rd is every technical issue in the game that makes me wonder if I am playing DbD or Marvels Avengers
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edit: this was a rant i removed because it was dumb and pointless.
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It just seem that the way devs counter op perks, killers, etc is with more of the same on the opposing side.
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- i dont play against spirit until they nerf her every game i see her its stridor with speed and recovery addons there is no counter play , Z E R O to it so answering to you with your logic : i paid money for this game and i want to have fun in it and fair balanced interactive gameplay and counterplay with mindgames instead of humilating beatings with laying on ground for whole match with no chance
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better ranking system. there shouldnt be red ranks that cant lead chases, dont know loops and dont touch gens.
Balance swf, insanely strong especially a full group of good players.
Performance improvements
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Zero counter play? Kinda like a swf with 4 DS, UBs, Adrens and keys. Not much counters that but I still play it. I dont like it but I face it and move on. I dont whine for nerfs and refuse to play because I dont like it.
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nerf bbq but no nerf for ds/dead hard/iron will? You've never played killer, right?
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What was the BBq nerf, anyway?
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Console optimization. SWF-solo gap. Gen speed.
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I really didn't expect my game time to be under dispute.... lol... but, I'll clarify. I'm devotion 26 spread over multiple accounts. I had a devotion 15 account i started with then lost that PS4 account. I now have a devotion 7 new account, my girlfriend's devotion 3 account, and an alt devotion 1 account. I play an average of 8 hours a day, more on weekends. All it shows is that I have way too much free time on my hands. I'm not making it up. There's no need to.
Also, I already said, I'm a survivor. This is a survivor perspective. Killers are more than welcome to add theirs.
As for why I think BBQ is an issue - it's prevalence. It's in like 75%+ of builds because it's very strong. It affects most games and multiple times a game. Maybe increase the range survivors have to be outside of or at least take off the bonus double bloodpoints to make it almost impossible not to run.
Oh... and someone used my number of posts on here as a fact check against my playtime? lol... some people NEVER post on these forums. That mean they must never play? That's just poor logic. I mostly stay away from these forums because it's hard to get intelligent discussion. But sometimes an issue bugs me and I want to throw it out there. Anyhow... later...
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In no particular order...
1) Hackers. Seems to be more and more everyday.
2) Bad maps. Some still have overpowered window loops, are too big, or too many hold W zones and god pallets
3) Moris and keys
4) Bugs and audio issues
5) More and more crazy perks added creating situations with no counterplay
6) Ranking/matchmaking. Putting a total mismatch of players together.
7) Every kind of slowdown for the killer whether its ruin/undying or thana just means slower gens or more gen regression = more holding m1 on a generator. Surely there must be something else they could add.
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Camping and tunneling, which devs are refusing to address. If it wasn't for these two, survivors would not abuse metaperks, which in respond are answered with killer meta. In the end it's either one side is satisfied, or the other one, leading to toxicity to releave some steam.
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