Proxy Camping. Is it a problem?
Hey all, I'm a player of both Survivor and Killer, but I definitely prefer to run as killer.
I find myself proxy Camping a lot these days because almost every lobby I go against will dive bomb hooked survivors moments after I start to walk away. I don't feel great while proxy Camping, but if I see someone trying to crouch around where I just hooked someone, I'm going to stay near the hook, unhooks aren't free, especially if you're trying to unhook in my face. Obviously borrowed time is a thing, but I find that usually 7 out of 10 times, there is no BT, just bad plays.
My question is, do you feel that proxy Camping is just as bad or worse as camping next to hook? Try to be civil in the responses please ☺️ We are all here to enjoy Dead by daylight 👍
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You do you. Myself, I will camp, tunnel, slug, or Mori if a specific match calls for it. If you feel you should stay in the general area of the hook, then you should. People spend entirely too much time worrying about what they should or shouldn't be doing. The only rules that matter (in my opinion) are:
- Don't cheat, either by hacks or with lag spikes.
- Don't disconnect; if you start a game, finish it.
- Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.
Everything else is up to you and YOU alone. If you are uncomfortable doing something, don't do it. But be aware that camping, tunneling, slugging, and the Mori are all valid tactics. Nobody should be giving you grief or shaming you for using them. And if there are Survivors here incoming, you cannot by definition be camping. If they don't let you leave, that is on them.
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It is only a problem for Solo since ranking and matchmaking keeps pairing up potatoes with everyone.
Its really difficult to play solo since Survivors generally want to help one another, but aren’t experienced enough to know what to do or what perks to run.
If facing a group of potatoes, please be nice and don’t do it while 5 gens are up.
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And this is quiet true. If you find yourself in a match were you completely outmatch and dominate newbie Players, take it easier on them. You don't have to give them wins, but you can let them get practice and you can max out hooks, and make sure they get rescues. It is good for them AND lets you make more points.
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It all depends on how the match goes.
Survivivors always coming back to the same gen/totem? Return the favor.
If not, you can just leave and play "nice".
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Well said...good points, all of them! Thanks for the insight in your play style, it sounds solid 👍
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Sometimes it’s hard not to linger around hooks. A lot of times I’ll spot a healthy survivor soon after hooking and I’ll start the chase but if they are bolting to a dead zone with no gens etc I see absolutely no benefit in committing to that chase and I’ll turn back to the hook. Often you can find yourself crossing paths another person going for the save and if you’re lucky they’re still injured.
Another situation could be that you have 2 people hooked basically right next to each other or one hooked and one slugged.. it makes perfect sense to patrol the area aggressively since at least one survivor is pressured to make a move into your territory.
A pet peeve of mine though is when I hook someone and immediately notice that someone left fresh scratch marks and then starts stealthing.. a bigger peeve though is a healthy survivor unhooking and then immediately going into hardcore stealth mode leaving the injured person at the mercy of the Killer.
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In regards to camping, another thing to remember is ultimately you probably do want them to get some of those people off the hook. You can can't run them down and put them back unless they get a rescue. If you one hook every Survivor you will not earn that many BP and you will lose a Pip.
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proxy camping when you KNOW there is another survivor there or the team has been super altruistic all match I don't see as a problem. The best strategy as a killer is to keep people off gens. if they are choosing to leave gens immediately and go for the save then you get more out of proxy camping than patrolling.
however if you have no evidence that someone will be along in a few seconds to get the unhook then you are better off patrolling gens. as @Moundshroud pointed out you don't want 1st hook deaths because it hurts your BP+Emblems and makes a very unfun game for the survivor side, but if that's the fastest way to get into a new chase then I say do it
This as a survivor main who abandons gens to go for immediate unhooks. I'm still learning :)
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it depends on the specific scenario sometimes its fine sometimes its unnecessary
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I appreciate your insight :) When I first started survivor I did the same thing. Now, I typically run kindred because I play solo. This gives me the information I need in order to decide if I'm going to unhook or stick to a gen.
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This, this I agree with 100%. I may sound scummy by saying this, but I will still down the freshly unhooked survivor, but I won't hook them again, I will begin searching for the healthy survivor that left the injured one at my mercy, at least giving the downed survivor a chance to be healed and also giving me value by wasting someone's time that could be on a gen.
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A better question would be:
"Unsafe hook-rescue, is it a problem?"
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What you just described is just camping. Proxy camping is camping using a proxy. This means a killer doesn't have to be near the hook at all as long as they have something near the hook doing the job for them. So think trapper trap or a hag trap. The killer isn't there but the trap is so it's camping by proxy.
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If there is no reason to leave the area I'm staying near. Otherwise please leave it ain't fun. Sometimes you get these hardcore proxy campers who also slug like their life depended on it. It's really boring.
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Depend...If the others survivors prefer finishing a generator instead of unhooking a teammate, sure i'm going to "punish" that by forcing a hook stage.
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I think to make a judgement on that is situationally dependant.
For example, after a hook if no one shows up on BBQ if I run it at that time, I´ll briefly do a sweep of the area and then proceed to check the closest 2-3 gens. Almost all of my Killers are 115% with no additional mobility, so crossing the map to -maybe- find someone there is a huge waste of time and not worth it.
I´m more than willing to abandon the hook in most scenarios, but there are limits to how generous you can expect a Killer to play.
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It's starting to feel like anything you do as a killer is "a problem" now.
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It comes down to skill and ethics IMO.
I play both surv and killer and as killer I don’t use cheap tactics to win because I know how shut it is for the survs. It’s a thing of either “they did it to me why shouldn’t I do it to other people “ or “they did it to me so I won’t do it because I know the pain”.
Try to be the second one.
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If the survivors give you no reason to leave the area, then don’t.
I tend to leave first hook to see if that’s the kind of behaviour the survivors exhibit. If that hook goes boom before I’ve even gotten the same distance away as my TR, then damn right I’ll proximity camp future hooks.
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YAY someone else who gets it.
I eye roll at how often posts on these forums mistakenly use proxy in place of proximity.
The only killers in the game that can camp by proxy are Hag, Trapper, Demo, potentially Freddy if the hook is near a gen, and to a lesser degree Huntress.
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I don't have a problem with proxy camping, but I think it is so amusing when people want to act like DS and Unbreakable are a problem, but suddenly Proxy Camping is 'ok'... because you used it to 'create pressure'.
When in fact all you were doing is allowing 3 gens to pop and someone to go into their final hook stage, which means you didn't create any pressure at all, you were simply trying to exploit a built-in mechanic.
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I always understood proxy Camping as patrolling near the hook but not directly face camping.
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If most people understood what I meant, the point is still getting across. You understood what I meant even though I apparently used the wrong word.
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