I need killer main advice
So when killer games are good, compared to when survivor games are good, I enjoy killer more, but killer can be really hurtful to play. Of course there's the obvious sweaty swf, tbaggers and people that clicky clicky but normally I just facecamp them because they deserve it lol.
So my main killer is pig, I'm great as her. My favourite piggy build is ruin, surveillance, save the best for last and sloppy butcher. I love my slow down with pig because of slow healing with sloppy and the bear traps, and sometimes even the time it takes to find ruin if someone wants to find the totem.
I ranked up as Pig, then had a huge crave for playing Huntress but the games were horrible because I've never played her before. People were calling me boosted and kept saying 'gg ez', but it's not my fault because of course I haven't played as her before. The mmr system does nothing because I'm constantly being put with red rank survivors, while I try to adapt to avoiding their pallet and window baits it's still difficult to do well.
I decided to not play killer much and avoid ranking up so I could derank a few times from rank reset, I deranked to rank 13 and thought this would be a good place to start as huntress and get better but I still went against red rank survivors. What should I do?
My Huntress build is corrupt intervention, barbecue and chilli, pop goes the weasel and huntress lullaby, I don't really like lullaby but don't have many other perks on Huntress. I used to play discordance on her but the audio cues used to annoy me while I was in a chase.
Edit: I play on Xbox One and I turned off crossplay
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I love when people see red rank or 3k hours and expect that you put all of these 3k hours into the same character or reached red rank by only playing that one...
Just think to yourself "that guy is totally oblivious and judges on lacking information" and go ahead. Teaching them is a waste of time as they won't learn anyway, they prefer to rant and yell instead of listen or think.
Yes, with current ranking, learning new killers can be pretty horrible, I notice that with each new chapter when going for the killer adept :P But I'm afraid you either have to wait until MMR is working (because as I understood, they take stats anyway right now and that will push you higher when it is eventually activated) or you just push through and expect some losses to begin with.
On Huntress specifically I cannot give any advice, I hate playing her XD But for example just for training, you can use Bitter Murmur to train some ranged shots, the king's discipline of Huntress :P Also BBQ combined with Iron Maiden is good, to counter the basic counter to BBQ and she has great value from the faster locker opening as well (it also decreases the hatchet refill animation by 50%). To maximise her snowball potential (although people might hate you then ;) ) the Infectious Fright + Deerstalker combo might work well.
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Step1: buy ps4
Step2: buy game
Step3: turn off crossplay
step4: profit
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had basically the same experience right down to most of your huntress loadout.
a couple things: nurse's calling is one of if not the best perk to run on huntress it helps you figure out hit boxes which is probably why you are losing in the first place. bbq can be amazing on huntress but only if u can hit your shots if not and your fine on bp you might need to pick something else maybe bitter murmur or rancor? you don't really need more than one gen slowdown perk ever pick pop or corrupt not both.
if you dont accept that you will derank due to lack of experiance you're going to have a bad time maybe switch between your best killers your mediocre and you worst and go back again or just try one game a day or something so you dont feel as bad about losing 20 games in a row due to mismatched skill
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I don't mind deranking as killer (apart from the sound of 'entity displeased') it's more the messages and people thinking they're god tier players or calling me bad when of course I'm gonna be bad because I recently only started to play Huntress. Sadly I don't have nurses as a teachable, I'm very reluctant to put points into nurse since I'm probably never gonna play her but I know I need to get her teachables eventually. I use bbq so I know where to go to use my pop and to find my next survivor
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I don't like huntress on console. DBD does not have the excessive aim assist that most other FPS games on console have, so you will need to be really precise with the controller. Same with Nurse, Clown, and Deathslinger. To beat good players, all will require extremely quick shots aimed through windows while you are moving around loops; something very hard to do without the ability to easily moonwalk.
As a 110 killer and with a huge lullaby radius, she gives some of the most warning in the game to survivors to find a hiding spot. I usually run whispers on her because people love to hide from her. I don't like pop on her, it's not bad but she doesn't really have the mobility to be a generator controller. BBQ is also mediocre, she doesn't have the mobility to run chase to chase and unless you are going for cross map hatchets it's not that helpful in the grand scheme of things.
I just go for a more murder oriented playstyle with her. Get a hook, attempt to get a slug, and then try to snowball because you can't really unhook in her face. Of course, im not anywhere close to a huntress main but I do play a ton of killer and those are my thoughts on her.
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I'm huntress main. Can't say i'm a good huntress because I still can miss all 5 hatchets sometimes. But I can give some advice.
Patience. Most important thing you should learn as huntress is be patient when you wind up hatchet. Survivors often expect you throw hatchet right after wind up. Hold hatchet for couple of seconds longer and you notice survivor juking. Aim carefully and shot when you see his next move clearly. Fully charged hatchet is so fast is literally unavoidable for next 15 meters if you don't miss. Being patient at throwing hatchets is a key for being good huntress.
Meelee hatchets. Huntress is type of killer who rarely use her main weapon. Hatchets are more important than axe. When you hit someone with your main weapon, you get long ass fatigue. When you throw hatchet you are almost instantly ready to make another throw or hit. So when you get close to survivor and he trying to juke you under your feet, don't hit him with axe. Throw hatchet and finish him with axe. Don't worry if you miss. You have multiple hatchets to try again. Sometimes huntress doing crazy instadowns without any exposing tools.
Reloading. Huntress is slow killer, she is harmless without hatchets. If you have no hatchets and survivor reached safe loop - give up the chase and reload. Don't commit to long chase without hatchets. Trust me, you will waste more time chasing without hatchets than if you reload and find survivor again.
Perks. Huntress is more like m2 killer, so she doesn't benefit from m1 perks. Such as Sloppy Butcher, STBFL, NOED, etc. I'm personally using 4 detection perks. BBQ, Nurses calling, Discordance, Whispers. You can change some of that on slow down perks like pop or ruin. Whispers is best tracking perk. It doesn't really help to find exact location of survivor. But when whispers are not lit, you know that no one there. So you don't waste time looking for survivors in wrong places. It helps find survivors quickly at match start. And it helps to find last survivor after 3k.
Longshots. Good huntress can do crazy longshots on open maps. Survivors rarely expect ranged hatchet from other side of map. If you see someone's aura with BBQ or Bitter murmur, and you know there is no big obstacles on your way, give it a shot. Sometimes it works and this is probably best feel in the dbd. It also works when survivor break chase with you and running far away. If he doesn't look behind he don't expect you try to snipe him. Always pay attention to horison line. You can often notice clueless survivor who didn't see you yet. Also since lullaby is not directional you often can see survivors trying to hide on wrong side of obstacle.
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Yeah I have 1654 hours on dbd, but on xbox I made my profile quite private so people can't see my dbd stats unless they're my friend. It feels like I can't make any more progress on huntress, and I can't kill anyone above green rank survivors. I'm a red rank survivor so that helps because I know that red rank survivors bait a lot, so if a survivor tries to bait a window vault I'll throw to the side but sometimes I miss.
Also her hitboxes at close range really aren't helpful and I lost a game the other day because of it.
I was in Haddonfield and a Jake was injured, he threw down a pallet and I threw a hatchet but it went through him. That hatchet miss gave him and his friends time to run to hatch and jump out in my face, 3 of them did that and the other person left through the gate, I haven't played huntress since then 😂
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Yeah I was temporarily a clown main but games eventually became impossible to win with him.
I use my perks based off of Tru3Ta1ent, and I like to have gen pressure perks but I don't think any of them really work on huntress because getting to generators in time to use pop is difficult and ruin would basically be useless on her because she doesn't really push people off gens.
What perks would you recommend?
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This was really good advice, thank you. My biggest flaw as huntress is just tapping LT so I don't get charged hatchet throws, only because I want to avoid the habit of holding up a hatchet for ages because I feel like that's a habit I could easily fall into.
I used to use whispers on pig so I knew when to use her stealth ability but I become so forgetful with that perk, but I'll still try it on huntress
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Toxicity and frustration is unfortunately a part of the game, there is no better solution than turning off every chat function (don't know about Xbox messages, but you can turn off chat ingame on PC and in Steam) and getting used to tbagging and clicky clicky. At some time you will not bother about it anymore. It's mostly just people who want to take the aggro for their mates. See it as a test, don't let it discourage you and focus on your matchplan. Of course you can facecamp that guy or girl but personally, i wouldn't throw the match because i feel offended, or only in very extreme cases. Try to be above such things, your game experience will be much better if you just don't care anymore about the bullshit that is going on in this game and just do your thing :) i know it's easier to say than to do but it will get easier with time.
Matchmaking is a ######### and since they turned off the MMR it's as before. I don't know anything about Huntress, but i can give you the advice to watch some streamers and see how they are doing things, it helped me a lot. Watch otzdarvas videos about the add ons and perks, he also has a video for killers who have problems in red ranks. Basically, playing killer against good survivors is managing your time, your hooks, while you're chasing that Meg you have to think about what Feng and Ace are doing, how far that gen already is, kinda like that. Don't chase someone too long, change targets. Only some small tipps coming to mind right now.
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You can't do more.
Even if you play dbd on rank20 you will get your red ranks, sometimes. Have seen that by myself. On the other hand, I can understand that. I bet not many killers enjoy being in the red ranks. A short period being in the red ranks was for me already enough to say "never, ever again".
As killer you can only have fun* if you avoid the red ranks. So stay away from it and just play a little less, or if you are in the mood - survivor. That is always chilling, because either the killer can't kill you, or one of the other 3 will do your job (that was not ment to be a rant towards survivors, it was just me saying how it is).
*With fun I mean to play a chill playstyle, to not use every dirty trick possible and to not have for you every freaking match a teabagging swf.
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I have been doing corrupt, whispers, bamboozle, and iron maiden. Iron maiden is more of a comfort pick so I can spam hatchets and could be switched for whatever else you want. I probably would not go into a game without either corrupt or discordance. You need one of the two to stop 2-3+ gens popping while you find and get your first down.
Really good huntress players don't need bamboozle to get fast hits at jungle gyms / shack but I don't feel like investing the time into learning how to get them (not a huntress main) so bamboozle keeps it simple for me.
I usually do exhaust hatchets because dead hard is super annoying and you may as well use them before they are nerfed.
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You lost me at facecamp!
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Yes,, hitboxes in general screw over both killer and survivor.
The other day I had an injured Claudette slow vault right infront of my face, I lunged at a perfect 90° angle to the wall towards her and ... my weapon just went through her and hit the wall. By the time I recovered Claudette was already finished vaulting and started to run away, I lunged again through the window, and hit her.
So if you get screwed over by hitboxes like that, just shrug it off. Its been part of the game for over 4 years now.
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Read my reasoning for it, and that's not the point of the post
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Yes haha I live for berus toxin
Discordance stresses me out and makes me feel hopeless every game, and I prefer corrupt because it stops 3 gens popping after I hook my first survivor 😂 I've never actually used bamboozle apart from when I did adept clown, so that could be interesting to try on huntress
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I read your reasoning, you cant defend toxicity with toxicity.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Golden rule.
Anywho, you want to get better with a new killer, do what many of us do.
Take the early L's and keep readying up. You will get better.
And dont let survivors tilt you. Hook the clicky tbaggers and go hunt down their friends. You won't get better face camping.
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Facecamping is a rarity because I normally lobby dodge if there are 4 survivors with flashlights or if I know they're a swf.
I think what I dislike about killer is that the first games are super easy because the survivors a quite new, don't know how to loop and getting a 4k is easy but then as I rank up the games are less rewarding and way more stressful. I wish I could just dodge the mean messages on xbox because I don't see why people feel the need to tell someone they're bad
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I disagree with that logic. I play at rank 1 with ~6000 hours and I facecamp on the regular. I camp, slug, and tunnel any time it is beneficial for me to do so. It is a zero sum game.
The survivors don't spawn on the hook, the hooks are earned. The game has been out for 4 years now and people still act like generators can't be finished within 5 minutes while survivors equip up to 16 extra lives.
I literally have games where I lose my first generator for a 10 second chase. I had it happen today. Spawn in, walk across the map, hit someone. They dumb tech me and I have enduring, so I just grab them (I love the dumb tech so much, free hooks) and by the time I bring them to a hook the first gen is done. I'm instantly in a defensive posture after that, because I know it's a gen rushing team (nothing wrong with that btw) and need to play accordingly.
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On xbox there used to be a feature to mute message requests so I wouldn't know if someone had messaged me until hours later and I probably wouldn't care what they had to say, but now they can't be muted anymore so on top of being a bad mood after a game I see the messages too.
I don't like giving toxic survivors their fun and bloodpoints and escapes, hence me facecamping them if I do encounter them because I struggle enough without the toxic survivors.
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Welp, matchmaking is pepega.
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I main Nurse so you can imagine the hate thrown around, but my best tip is to not let it get to you. Red ranks can be toxic, yes, but also the best players are generally in red ranks. Its good to go against them, even if you lose, because you learn more about good survivor play. I don't often get only 1k, but I usually need a warmup match to get back on Nurse's blinks, and today it was unfortunately a 3 stack with one running Object, and all survivors were solid. I lost the match pretty hard and the survivors were toxic and complaining about my build and calling me terrible, etc. It hurts and feels bad, but just take the blows and learn from what happened. Honestly, don't be afraid to turn off chat if it really gets to you. You'll very rarely be missing anything constructive.
But keep learning new killers, keep playing and experiencing more the game has to offer, and you'll be a better player for it, even if there are a bunch of losses on the way. Learn to punish toxic behavior, or ignore survivors that are being toxic if you feel they might actually get away from you. Focus on the weaker survivors (without camping, of course. Please, for the love of god don't facecamp no matter how crappy you're feeling.) and catch them out. Gen defense is a tricky thing to learn at the high ranks, so try and figure out strategies that work for you, or builds. Just remember there's no wrong build necessarily, but I wouldn't recommend NOED because it's essentially a perk to use when you expect to lose every gen.
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I understand the struggle, as I am also a rank 1.
But, I don't facecamp. I don't go out of my way to tunnel, but if you run in front of me I am hitting you.
Honestly I just recently broke my spirit out of retirement. I wanted to see the new ruin,undying, tinkerer build. I haven't lost a game with her yet.
I know she is strong regardless. You can still lose two gennys very early. But then they just all die with 3 gens left instead of 5.
That is why I put discordance on over bbq even tho I miss my bloodpoints. Now I constantly know where everyone is.
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Killer is definitely the harder role. I swf and drink bourbon all night as survivor and just have fun.
As killer I play sober and can't lie, I am sweaty. But I will adjust to my competitors, if they suck, I chill a bit.
But the only way to get better is to keep fighting and trying.
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That almost doesn't count. You can play nice as nurse or spirit, freddy, oni, etc. The super strong killers can afford to do it. But I don't play them often, I usually find them too easy to play into solo Qs.
I play the M1 killers mainly, and it's just not possible to play nice with them against opponents of equal skill level. I put very little weight into stall perks because against a true genrush team they are not going to help you at all. The 20 seconds of regression from pop is hardly going to be worth the time to even walk to a gen and kick it. I'd rather run perks to end the chases as fast as possible, and help me power through BT/DS if needed.
I hate ruin undying. It is strong, but RNG. I still had games where both totems are dead in under a minute, and I never used it again after that.
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Like I said,I just broke her out of retirement.
I have been playing wraith recently and having fun.
But was kinda curious of how strong this would be on her.
Also with discordance and tinkerer. Even losing both hexes early, I still get a lot of notifications.
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I don't see why you would use tinkerer on spirit because even when she is undetectable they can still hear you phasing up to the generator. Unless you are just walking up to it but you may as well have monitor if you are going to do that.
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Don't forget the notifications at 70%.
It makes it easier to control gennys, also sneak up get first hit. Or grabs. Grabs with tinkerer have been amazing.
Then a quick phase to down them. And you just had a 5 second chase.
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I mean it's nice but I just don't find it optimal. It's the same reason I stopped running it on pyramid head. I've gotten grabs with pyramid head and it's hysterical but spine chill is meta enough I don't find it reliable.
I think the only person I have it on is leatherface (along with pop) because he just 1 shots you if he closes the gap and then you pop the gen for another tinkerer proc. And I know you can achieve the same result with ruin undying but I don't like leaving half my perks to RNG. Or having to dodge lobbies because there is a map.
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I can understand that. I just have so much time with Spirit I could play her without perks. I have mained her since she came out. And that is one of the reasons I put her on the bench, she is very strong and people will constantly DC against her.
But I may end up switching the build, will probably put her back on the bench soon. I am just having so much fun being so strong with her right now.
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The killers need individual ranks or some kind of prestige indicator. I'm lethal with trapper even at rank 10 atm, yet Id struggle at midranks with Huntress or even at rank 20 with Billy or Nurse.
Id recommend messaging any survivors that mailed you 'stick' by thanking them for there classy msg and inform them that it was your 1st/2nd game as X killer.
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As a fellow Xbox player, all I can say is that if you want to learn a new killer, either wait to de-rank or make a free smurf to practice.
I have 3 accounts!
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how can you make a free smurf? I don't want to buy the game and then the DLCs again because i need some perks. That's what holding me back.
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Uff if you are playing piggy, shes fun.. but in green ranks or not againts swf. I don't recommend you to play her in red and purple. I used to play her a lot until they nerfed her with the end game collapse.
Piggy is one few killers that really needs some buff and not many talk about. But because devs thinks shes ok, when clearly she isn't at all shes not getting a change and thats sad.
Sinceraly i would recommend you to play any other killer, shes in the lower lower tier list, if you don't want to get frustrated or get lots of escaped survivors more often that it should be play other killers.
If you are stubborn and still wants to play her at any cost. Well.. i can tell you that pig is very loopeable so equip her with perks that "reduce" that looping and gives you time like:
🔵 Bamboozle.. This is a must for pig.
🔵 Save the best for last to short the chases a bit.
🔵 Corrupt intervention with discordance can be useful as you will get some extra time for the match wich she desperately needs and you will get your first hits easy and sometimes even get a grab when exiting crouch mode.
🔵 Hanted ground is another good perk for her as she waste a lot of time in downing survivors. And it can cut a lot of that time if you get the benefit.
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Easy. Xbox profiles are free and once the game and DLC are in the console, it's there for everyone.
I'm the one that buys the games a day DLC, but I have two brothers I share them with.
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