So I gotta ask....
I'm am not one for camping but what do you do if you get two survivors in the basement with 5 gennys left?
I know, for points I could just leave.
However with ruin, surveillance, tinkerer, discordance , I know exactly what the other 2 are doing.
Long story, shortened, survivors got pissed cause I chose to take the ez dubs and punish bad play by allowing two survivors to go down right at basement stairs.
Just curious what others would do.
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Its your decision if you leave the basement or not.
It depends, if you wanna secure a win and stay, or you leave, risk your high pressure and maybe get more points after the game.
The thing you have to remind yourself is, you wont see those people again. Maybe if you immediately search for the next game, but there are around +30000 people playing this game every day. Survivors will forget who they went up against and wont care if you played like an ass or not. They may be tilted to you, but wont do something like hunt down your adress or something.
This is a Videogame, where you can decide what you wanna do, be it playing Spirit with stridor or Infinity Tombstone Myers.
The reason why you play this game is to have a fun time. So dont be afraid to ruin the fun of others, just dont care and do whats right for you.
Im still upset that people still think you have to follow the "rulebook of dbd", because they expect you to have limited options.
Shorted: just ######### on it, dont feel bad for playing like a dick. You paid for the full DBD experience, so you gotta use the full DBD experience!
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Thanks, that is so true.
I just recently tore up the handbook. I have for a long time played killer as close to the handbook as possible.
But now that I find myself edging back from a 50/50 player into a 60/40 killer I have noticed you get very little respect for playing "nice."
So why I will always try to play with good sportsmanship, I will be fully exploiting the opportunities that l see.
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I understand the point about playing too nicely and wanting to play to win. I still think that, if I had two people in the basement at the very start of the game (5 gens up), I would leave the basement. I'd feel like those two people should have a chance to do something besides hang on a hook. And, I'd say to myself, "If I lose, this is the moment I lost," and I'd be right, but I don't have it in me to be that ruthless.
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I leave.
Do what you want, i find just hanging around one of the most boring ways to play.
It obviously makes me weaker if they realize that and build upon it, but idc about that: I'm not staying.
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Honestly, I give them a Mulligan at that point.
I'll wander away and let them get unhooked and then give them a bit to heal up.
Part of it is trying to be sporting but most of it is that I'm not going to get a lot of points if I take two out that quickly.
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I mostly leave, except the survivors were really toxic, because then i just want to end the game fast.
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Getting two in the basement at 5 gens usually only happens against babies so I’d probably leave, since I probably won’t struggle too hard to catch them again. Everyone gets chance to play and get more points.
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You get more points if you leave and let them get unhooked. The long and the short of it is that if you do the math, your advancement in BP and emblems is better if you don't just one-hook them all. Chances are if you got two in the basement once, you will catch them again anyway. If it were me, and I know it isn't some SWF and there is no Generator pressure, I'd go one out and patrol. In fact, I'd go out of my way to make sure I clear a path for them.
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Thanks all for the replies.
My normal game play has always been to just leave.
But recently I have been ranking back up after a few resets so I have been a bit more ruthless.
I figured a quick pip would be nice.
Blood points don't motivate me anymore as I have plenty .
But I guess I could be a bit "nicer" next time.
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Yeah never really play like that, especially early.
But after watching some streamers I was like there really is no incentive to leave.
I didn't just stay in basement completely. When discordance hit I would chase them off and the return to the barn, was the corn map.
But was an ez 4k, got the pip , which is all I was playing for at the moment
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I'd just leave. Especially with that build.
I've also found that you can still play nice, but still play hard and you rank up rather quickly still.
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Yeah it is true.
I usually play at rank 1, but after a couple of resets, I have been trying to get good with survivor, I just wanted some quick pips.
Also in my time as survivor I have learned many killers will just take advantage of a situation like that , which greatly increases their odds of winning.
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I'd leave. I get wanting to win, but I get bored so very easily.
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At that point it depends how long do you want your game to be. If you want to end survivors fast for whatever reason, just camp the basement and ensure they die. They made huge mistakes to get into that position so you are free to punish them hard for it.
Or if you want longer game with more points, chases, etc you can leave and give a few free unhooks. I usually show a bit of mercy in not punishing all the mistakes they do as long as survivors aren't annoying me or doing too well in their objectives.
The choice is all yours which is one of the nice things about playing as killer, if you get into such spot you're the one who decides how you want your game to go.
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Those types of killers seem rather insecure or bloodthirsty to me.
It's also as @MadLordJack said above. There's winning, but there's also the fact that this is still a game. We play for fun, and for me at least, the hunt is way more thrilling than the kill.
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After reading many reasons to leave the basement, id say my reason to stay:
The reason I play killer is to be feel the power and control over the match (and for the bloodpoints as well)
But if there is an situation where you can use it to your advantage, id do it, because:
- Suvivors have to learn of their mistakes. If they got hit hard, they will remember it and learn how to avoid this next time. Do a different strategy or just do gens if its not possible to save a person of the basemement without the high risk of getting caught in action. I know this game is about risk as well, but sometimes you have to sacrafice something to still gain a bigger chance of success (be it higher bloodpoints/score or even an escape)
- I learned that showing mercy to survivors can be punishing in the late game, if something happens you didnt expect to happen. Your job as the killer is to get as many kills as possible (or just do it for the points if you dont care). But if you think mercy is the better choice, you have to remind yourself that the survivors wont see you as a real threat anymore, and attempt more stuff or even start to bully you, because they wanna do a payback for you even getting 2 people to the basement.
- If you gain high pressure and keep it, the survivors will respect you as a killer and will get too scared to attempt something, because they wanna survive as long as possible. Sure, there are many experienced players out there which care more about the survival of others than themselves, but if you do it right, you can beat those people again, and win really quick
Most of the people think its boring, which is normal, but for me its not, because there are still people which play killer just to have control over the game.
For example camping leatherface at the start of the match. They do it for the feeling of power, if they catch an really toxic survivor, or just wanna show the teammates that he can have control over the match. (Yeah there are really people out there who do that, I asked those people)
So yeah, like I said, this is my reason why I would stay at the basement.
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depends on what I'm trying to do.
just playing normally and no one is around? I leave. I rather have a longer game.
trying to do some challenge that requires killing in the basement or something else among those lines? I stay.
I'm not just gonna let someone walk besides to save the others... but I'm usually not rushing to win a match.
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Yeah, I did have to kill everyone in the match using the perk ruin .
So that did contribute to my decision.
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Thanks for your well thought out response.
I am often on the side of, "let's kill but be as nice as possible " mantra.
But after a year of debates on this forum. And a couple devotions as survivor, trying to get good there. I have learned that being a ruthless killer is not only acceptable, but perhaps common practice.
And as I get my rank back to rank 1, I kinda decided I was gonna try to take every opportunity presented to 4k.
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Unless i'm doing a though achievement/challenge, i'd definitely leave. Everyone (me included) get more points and a more eventful game if I leave in that case.
2 hooks state with 5 gens still to be done is a great boost towards victory anyway (since only 1 player would be staying on a gen), so it's already a great result imho. 👍️
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The common response to gens going to fast is just learn to apply more pressure. Now that someone has a situation that applies huge amounts of pressure and people advising them to give it up. It isn't fun for the other end, it isn't beneficial for the bloodpoints earned... There is such a double standard at play.
Once I see survivors give me slack when my game goes south fast for me, I might consider doing the same. Dont get me wrong, I always try to go for the saviors, play the game well, spread the pressure, improve my killer skills and get 10+ hooks a game, yet those times survivors present me with gifts and huge mistakes I will capitalize. I lose enough games as it is, never seen survivors hand me a way back into the game so why should killers do it?
The guide book for fun games that people try and uphold seems very one sided. The play 'nice' idea seems to only apply to killers, for survivors is just called strategy, playing well and killers should just get good.
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That is an extremely valid point.
And pretty much my reasoning when I decided to hang around the barn.
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