Camping is legit
Doc is OP.
This game is currently survivor sided.
Dwight is cool.
Pigs traps are weak.
SWF is not fun to play against.
More people need to play Wraith.
Everyone hates the emblem system.
Claudette is bae.
Trappers mori is lazy.
Clowns mori is dumb and doesnt kill.
Shelter woods is very killer sided.
Bloodlust tier3 should one shot.
The term “cube” is dumb.
The Game is a terrible map for killers.
Insidious is hilarious.
BBQ, nurses calling and ruin are delicious.
Reporting does nothing.
Hag is weak.
Post hit collision removal for a couple seconds, shouldnt allow survivors to push the killer.
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A lot of that is known and agreeable.
There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
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@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
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@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
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Exactly. You cannot say Nurse is fine and then immediately say Doc is OP lmaoShadowchao121 said:@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
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@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Way to take it out of context and use a bad analogy. He's good at low tiers against even good survivors and as stated which you conveniently ignored the maps mentioned. There's been others who're higher ranked than me that've stated the same thing but i guess that doesn't fit the square peg into your round hole argument.
So again in low tiers with those addons and on those maps he's op compared to say most of the other killers. On Lery's, Gideons, and Haddonfield/ Springfield I'd much rather face Huntress, Hillbilly, Pig, The Shape, Nurse etc. While they're all really strong and good on those maps they're not super oppressive.
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@weirdkid5 said:
Shadowchao121 said:@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.
There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Exactly. You cannot say Nurse is fine and then immediately say Doc is OP lmao
Show me where i said in that post that nurse is fine again? If you're referring to the op that's different.
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Yea i'm referring to the OPpowerbats said:@weirdkid5 said:
Shadowchao121 said:@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.
There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Exactly. You cannot say Nurse is fine and then immediately say Doc is OP lmao
Show me where i said in that post that nurse is fine again? If you're referring to the op that's different.
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It's weird to say the Nurse is fine and then go on to say the Doctor is OP when he is without a doubt weaker than the Nurse.
The Clown mori could actually kill with the head stomping. Especially after they added the skull cracking sound.
Shelter Woods is Killer favoured? Clearly you haven't played Shelter Woods in a long time because they added a hefty amount of safe pallets to that map.
The Hag is strong but takes a high amount of skill to use.
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Doctor is op at rank 20 maybe.
In higher ranks it doesn't matter if the Doctor finds you or not, he will be looped until oblivion.Killer tier is very simple;
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We're very glad to have your opinions.
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@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Way to take it out of context and use a bad analogy. He's good at low tiers against even good survivors and as stated which you conveniently ignored the maps mentioned. There's been others who're higher ranked than me that've stated the same thing but i guess that doesn't fit the square peg into your round hole argument.
So again in low tiers with those addons and on those maps he's op compared to say most of the other killers. On Lery's, Gideons, and Haddonfield/ Springfield I'd much rather face Huntress, Hillbilly, Pig, The Shape, Nurse etc. While they're all really strong and good on those maps they're not super oppressive.
Man the defensiveness and ego behind that.
Out of context? When someone says "OP at low tier" that only means that he does well against new/bad players. This has nothing to do with his MAXIMUM potential as a Killer. It only means that new/bad players misunderstand how he works.
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@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Way to take it out of context and use a bad analogy. He's good at low tiers against even good survivors and as stated which you conveniently ignored the maps mentioned. There's been others who're higher ranked than me that've stated the same thing but i guess that doesn't fit the square peg into your round hole argument.
So again in low tiers with those addons and on those maps he's op compared to say most of the other killers. On Lery's, Gideons, and Haddonfield/ Springfield I'd much rather face Huntress, Hillbilly, Pig, The Shape, Nurse etc. While they're all really strong and good on those maps they're not super oppressive.
Man the defensiveness and ego behind that.
Out of context? When someone says "OP at low tier" that only means that he does well against new/bad players. This has nothing to do with his MAXIMUM potential as a Killer. It only means that new/bad players misunderstand how he works.
No ego and no defensiveness there you're reading way too much into that and projecting your own thoughts onto my post. Again you completely ignored my point about higher ranked and experienced players having issues with him as I already pointed out.
I understand how he works and on other maps how to play against him which isn't the point. You just keep using the excuse of new bad players to avoid the real issue which is he's a problem on certain maps and tiers.
If I never choose to do the dailies on survivors I don't play I'd be much higher ranked, the same is true for killers.On most maps he's fine and he requires a different play style and tactics, the same as any killer does. But again as pointed out above on others he's way more difficult. while every killer ahs maps they're good on he just blows away on those maps compared to other killers.
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@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
@powerbats said:
@Shadowchao121 said:
A lot of that is known and agreeable.There is one huge red flag in there
"Doc is OP" He's mid tier at best.
Doc is op at lower tiers and on certain maps, Gideons, Lery's and even Haddonfield/Springfield if using extended terror radius with extended electrode radius.
At lower tiers. As in he does good against bad survivors. That doesn't hold a birthday candle to the term "OP"
according to that argument, Freddy is "OP".
Way to take it out of context and use a bad analogy. He's good at low tiers against even good survivors and as stated which you conveniently ignored the maps mentioned. There's been others who're higher ranked than me that've stated the same thing but i guess that doesn't fit the square peg into your round hole argument.
So again in low tiers with those addons and on those maps he's op compared to say most of the other killers. On Lery's, Gideons, and Haddonfield/ Springfield I'd much rather face Huntress, Hillbilly, Pig, The Shape, Nurse etc. While they're all really strong and good on those maps they're not super oppressive.
Man the defensiveness and ego behind that.
Out of context? When someone says "OP at low tier" that only means that he does well against new/bad players. This has nothing to do with his MAXIMUM potential as a Killer. It only means that new/bad players misunderstand how he works.
No ego and no defensiveness there you're reading way too much into that and projecting your own thoughts onto my post. Again you completely ignored my point about higher ranked and experienced players having issues with him as I already pointed out.
I understand how he works and on other maps how to play against him which isn't the point. You just keep using the excuse of new bad players to avoid the real issue which is he's a problem on certain maps and tiers.
If I never choose to do the dailies on survivors I don't play I'd be much higher ranked, the same is true for killers.On most maps he's fine and he requires a different play style and tactics, the same as any killer does. But again as pointed out above on others he's way more difficult. while every killer ahs maps they're good on he just blows away on those maps compared to other killers.
He can be more difficult on certain maps but not OP by any means.
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The nurse is bugged
Doc is annoying but not strong
This game was always survivor sided.
Dwight is scared.
Pigs traps are useless unless used after all gens are done.
SWF is not fun to play against.
More people need to play Wraith.
nobody hates the emblem system, only those who dont understand it do
Claudette is too stealthy.
Trappers mori is lame.
Clowns mori is cool and does kill
Shelter woods is very killer sided.
Bloodlust should be removed
The term “cube” is a term.
The Game is a terrible map for killers.
Insidious is stupid and should be removed.
BBQ, nurses calling and ruin are needed.
Reporting does nothing.
Hag is weak.
Post hit collision removal for a couple seconds, shouldnt allow survivors to push the killer.
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I see theres some argument about the doctor.
I have 1700+ hours played.
I have all killers P3 50.
Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times.
You can evade a good nurse if played well.
You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one.
Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you?
This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing.
You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights.
If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker.
Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.0 -
@Shadowchao121 said:
He can be more difficult on certain maps but not OP by any means.
I can agree with that to the most point, just with the extended terror radius/electrode range he may'be seems op on those certain maps. I've been on both Lery's and Gideons with people ranked as high as 10ish or so in good groups all well geared/experienced and gottne nuked by a doctor using extended range and acing whole team in under 3-7 mins.
They just ran either down the middle or just outside the middle and got everyone nailed pretty quickly. The Gideons one was stupid because he spawned above 3 survivors in 1 corner of map and got all 3 to tier 3 in less than a minute. He got all 3 of them to stage one within 15 secs of map starting.
I don't want him nerfed just adjusted really really/balanced the same as all killers/survivors/perks but we all know how that goes
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lol did that one person above try to defend the garbage emblem system?
its not that complex. people dont like it, not because they dont understand it, but because its ridiculous.
The emblem system goes beyond simple “altruistic” or “bold” etc. Its their attempt to fix what wasnt broken, and the result is yet another ranking system that means nothing. Theres still plenty of bad players at rank1. Theres still plenty of pros at rank20.
Honestly its not rocket science. They simply need to give point incentives to play at better ranks.
For instance. Im pretty good, but for the last few months Ive stayed intentionally at rank 15-20 and i intentionally derank when gone lower. Because theres zero incentive not to. Theres less SWF and its easier to farm and get max tokens for wglf or bbq.
The rank system has been a joke since launch, and the emblem system did nothing to change that.0 -
@Lowbei said:
I see theres some argument about the doctor.I have 1700+ hours played.
I have all killers P3 50.
Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times.
You can evade a good nurse if played well.
You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one.
Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you?
This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing.
You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights.
If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker.
Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.
Thinking that Doctor is better than Nurse kinda busts your claim anyway. Either you're a really good Doctor, or a bad Nurse.
It's simple. Anyone can be good with any Killer. Some are better at certain ones rather than others. It's all about potential.
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cocaine must be one hell of a drug because the doctor isnt OP
Most of your comments are correct tho. People dont use the wraith because hes still a weak killer. Devs just cater to the survivors more1 -
A really good anything is good. Its possible to escape a good nurse (not easily), but you will not escape a really good doctor. its simply not going to happen.Shadowchao121 said:@Lowbei said:
I see theres some argument about the doctor.I have 1700+ hours played.
I have all killers P3 50.
Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times.
You can evade a good nurse if played well.
You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one.
Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you?
This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing.
You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights.
If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker.
Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.
Thinking that Doctor is better than Nurse kinda busts your claim anyway. Either you're a really good Doctor, or a bad Nurse.
It's simple. Anyone can be good with any Killer. Some are better at certain ones rather than others. It's all about potential.
it looks to me like most people here are too new or low ranked to have played against a good doc, tho im sure they think they have.0 -
This was annoying to read.
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@Lowbei said:
I see theres some argument about the doctor.I have 1700+ hours played.
I have all killers P3 50.
Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times.
You can evade a good nurse if played well.
You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one.
Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you?
This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing.
You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights.
If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker.
Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.
I never mained Doctor, i main Nurse but i do have him P3 50, if this matters to you.
Before anything else, i belive you are far more experienced than i am with the Doctor but im also Rank 1 on both sides, currently, and in my opinion hes not even above average.
This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing."
This isn't 2016... This game now is about doing gens until the killer shows up, they will find you, no matter if its Doctor or not, after that you waste as much time as possible doing loops and running pallets until the others finish the gens.
With perks like "BBQ" these days you can pretty much figure where everyone is.Post edited by Setsune on0 -
shocking someone makes them unable to use items or interact with windows or pallets for 3 seconds. its not hard to time that.
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@Lowbei said:
The nurse is fine.Doc is OP.
This game is currently survivor sided.
Dwight is cool.
Pigs traps are weak.
SWF is not fun to play against.
More people need to play Wraith.
Everyone hates the emblem system.
Claudette is bae.
Trappers mori is lazy.
Clowns mori is dumb and doesnt kill.
Shelter woods is very killer sided.
Bloodlust tier3 should one shot.
The term “cube” is dumb.
The Game is a terrible map for killers.
Insidious is hilarious.
BBQ, nurses calling and ruin are delicious.
Reporting does nothing.
Hag is weak.
Post hit collision removal for a couple seconds, shouldnt allow survivors to push the killer.
Agreeing with everything except:
Emblem system is fine if the core game is balanced, sadly this is not the case atm
Shelter woods isnt killer sided, there is a reason it is called pallet woods
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@Lowbei said:
Shadowchao121 said:@Lowbei said:
I see theres some argument about the doctor.
I have 1700+ hours played. I have all killers P3 50. Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times. You can evade a good nurse if played well. You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one. Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you? This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing. You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights. If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker. Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers <3
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.
Thinking that Doctor is better than Nurse kinda busts your claim anyway. Either you're a really good Doctor, or a bad Nurse.
It's simple. Anyone can be good with any Killer. Some are better at certain ones rather than others. It's all about potential.
A really good anything is good. Its possible to escape a good nurse (not easily), but you will not escape a really good doctor. its simply not going to happen.
it looks to me like most people here are too new or low ranked to have played against a good doc, tho im sure they think they have.
I mean i only have 800 hours but that's still a lot for a video game...
Assuming everyone else is wrong cause of your hours? Cmon. They're just opinions. No need to be egotistical.
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there was no ego in my post.Shadowchao121 said:@Lowbei said:
Shadowchao121 said:@Lowbei said:
I see theres some argument about the doctor.
I have 1700+ hours played. I have all killers P3 50. Ive been rank1 on both sides dozens of times. You can evade a good nurse if played well. You cannot evade a good doctor. If you think you can, then you simply havent seen one. Ive mained doc at rank1. Have you? This is a game about hiding from the killer. You cannot hide from a good doctor. Your position is given away from the very beginning, and while its easy to snap out of it, it doesnt matter if hes chasing. You also cannot pallet loop a good doctor, since you cannot drop a pallet when shocked, nor use items like flashlights. If you lose them as a doc, you simply switch to treatment mode and patrol some gens. They will pop up. If they dont, and the gen is getting slowly done, then you know they are in a nearby locker. Thus, since you can neither pallet loop nor effectively hide from a doc, hes OP. I know because I almost always get a 4K, Im a survivor main, and doc isnt even my main killer, its Myers <3
Again, if you think doc isnt OP, then you simply havent played a good one, or were with SWF, which can overcome anything.
Thinking that Doctor is better than Nurse kinda busts your claim anyway. Either you're a really good Doctor, or a bad Nurse.
It's simple. Anyone can be good with any Killer. Some are better at certain ones rather than others. It's all about potential.
A really good anything is good. Its possible to escape a good nurse (not easily), but you will not escape a really good doctor. its simply not going to happen.
it looks to me like most people here are too new or low ranked to have played against a good doc, tho im sure they think they have.
I mean i only have 800 hours but that's still a lot for a video game...
Assuming everyone else is wrong cause of your hours? Cmon. They're just opinions. No need to be egotistical.
the irony is that the only reason you posted that, is because your ego took a hit when you realized that youve probably never played a good doc.0
