What do you think the eventual death of dbd will be caused by?
Every game has a death eventually. So what do you think will do in dbd? Could it be that the games problems aren't fixed quickly enough and people decide enough is enough? Or maybe people get bored of the asymmetrical horror genre. A new game could come by and swipe dbd fans away. Dbd might just fade out like any other game. Etc.
(I just want to know your guy's ideas for why dbd will eventually fall just like any other game, so don't start clowning (pun intended) on the devs. I hear that the mods can smell negativity a mile away.)
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I think we all know the answer to this question to be honest
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When the devs stop supporting it. I don’t think any other game can provide an experience just like DbD.
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I honesly think this game has still much to offer, 3-5 years still. but the life span of the game could be increased with an operation health of sorts.
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Unless another game like it comes out this game ain't dying for at least another 4-5 years.
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Who knows maybe some fanatanicts will either mod the game like tf2. Or lfd2 and bring it back but I dbout it
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Thier corporate greed will be the straw that breaks the camels back
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Well the usual. A slight slow death hitting the game at some point. Probably taking months maybe even several years for the playerbase to die down and BHVR supporting it less and less as well until they close the servers. And the game will be unplayable for those who are left.
I don't think something specific will cause it. Quality wise the game is slightly rather in downfull than upwards lately.
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Its probably gonna be one of two things.
- A multitude of gamebreaking bugs are introduced that don't get fixed in time for the game to live.
- The devs stop officially supporting DBD altogether, whether or not its for a sequel or shear laziness.
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Honestly... Old age.
We all complain about bugs, dev decisions etc... Yet here we are, playing enough to take the time to complain. This game will live a long time.
Us players on the other hand lol.
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The most important issue is the clear lack of communication with the devs and the community. Imagine how well off DBD would be if the devs actually communicated with the community and took notes on valid criticism that they have managed to ignore about every single time.
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I hope outlast trials take the horror gaming community by storm, game look sick and I am honestly hyped for it. If it has similar but more balanced mechanics like perks, items, tools I can actually see it grow
Either it or another game will kill DBD or the playerbase will just give up on it cause the devs dont actually listen on feed
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I think they will randomly bring in some new feature that inbalances the game in the favour of one side, and then refuse to acknowledge it, and refuse to fix it.
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Lack of players. 🤪
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The way the devs are supporting the game will probably kill it. At a certain point there's just too many killers, perks and stuff that will cripple the game in terms of balance and create too many barriers to entry. Then there are all the bugs that just keep multiplying. They can't keep stacking stuff on top of a bad foundation and expect things not to collapse at some point.
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The Devs not listening to the community and their greed
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Greed and laziness. The same problems that plague the Eternal Blight event.
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death by 1000 cuts as the devs make arbitrary changes to the game while ignoring glaring issues. We're already starting to see it, with the advent of a new dlc plus halloween, DBD has seen its largest numerical exodus of players over the last 30 days.
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I honestly think the devs themselves will be the cause of the game's death.
I love Dead by Daylight, but BHVR... not so much. I believe a few of them really do care about this game. Cote, McLean, Not_Queen all seem to legitimately care about the game (to me, at least), but the lack of real communication with the community and blatant greed (this is a 20 dollar game that releases 7-8 dollar DLC every 3 months with paid cosmetics that, more often than not, cost between 5-10 dollars as well as a paid battle pass, and this event is just pure greed on all fronts, there is no sugarcoating it) will kill the servers, though I don't think the game itself will ever truly die. It survived for a while on Peer-to-Peer and there's always KYF if you want to play with friends.
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Besides the basic greed and devs ignorance, if that doesn't cause the death of this game, than I believe that the death of the killer community will be the death of this game!
Granted the survivor community is bigger than the killer community, but killer is still too damn stressful to play!
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I’m honestly hoping a large company decided that they like the concept of DbD and competes with it. It doesn’t even have to be horror, they can just make it a game of tag and hide and seek. It would be nice if Epic or the newly founded company made up of old Blizzard developers were to do so.
It would be nice to not have to worry about spaghetti code and have the developers actually give back to the player base.
Epic gave out free V-bucks in fortnite that let me purchase their season pass and continue to earn them in order to purchase the next pass and they all had nice rewards (unlike the lackluster and empty rift). I also like how they constantly change things up with their environments and keep things interesting.
Blizzard just did really well with holiday events in general and over all cared about the community (Until it became ActiBlizzturd).
Maybe the competition would fuel Behavior to do better and offer more.
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I feel like the number of people who understand that this game:
-Is full of corporate greed
-Programmed by legitimately incompetent designers who CANNOT DO THEIR JOB
-Managed by a company who only exclusively listens to praise and responds to criticism either impossibly slowly or not at all
-Is one of the most unbalanced messes to grace the video game market since Brigitte
Is slowly rising. I think eventually enough people will realize this and the vacation of the playerbase will be massive enough for the game to die.
Which I honestly hope. I play this game almost every single day, but only because I'm addicted. I vehemently despise this game, I vehemently despise the community, and I vehemently despise the people in charge of making it all possible (except Mcote, poor guy had his prize game trashed by trash-tier coworkers). I don't enjoy it, and I haven't enjoyed it for a while. I don't think it deserves to be successful and I metaphorically beat myself up for supporting this piece of burning garbage. I sincerely hope it dies one day, or Mcote can have the good fortune of having his baby reborn and nurtured by a dev team who can actually develop a game.
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Well, all things have to come to an end one day. Personally, I believe that the most likely cause of Death of DBD will be a combination of a failure in balancing (maybe the soloq buff of 2023?) and the rise of a competitor.
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more killers that oppress way to much in chase than is needed
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When people realise this game is frying their next gen consoles
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Some of you act like these guys are malevolent. Here's a life tip: you do not need a video game (any video game). If you think the devs are incompetent, lazy, greedy, etc. then why would you still support them? Why are you on the forums every day? Talk about first world problems.
If Bhvr created a vaccine for COVID 19 and charged hundreds of dollars for it then I'd be with you calling them out. But they are selling a product that nobody will ever need. They have a game where, after purchasing it for $10-20, you don't have to spend one more dime on it and you can play it for thousands of hours. There are plenty of free cosmetics, every can play against every killer on every map, plenty of cosmetics and characters that you can earn with in game currency, and every single perk is eventually in the shrine.
Complaining about balance is one thing. I get there will be disagreements there. But being pissy because the big meanie developer doesn't give you enough free stuff you don't need? Grow up. Self reflect on your entitlement and find something in life that is actually worth this kind of "passion."
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When they actually get competition in this game genre
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Unless there's a new that comes out soon that is better than DbD the game will probably die when the devs stop supporting the game. Or maybe the growing corporate greed will put the nail in the coffin. Who knows. 🤷♂️
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The absolute shabang of greed this company is giving off, it's so blatant how greedy they are.
Imagine making this much paid content on a game that you need to pay for - and locking events behind a paywall wow that's ew
Absolute greed from BVHR - the absolute bumders
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They release DBD 2 and everyone moves to that , a DBD killer is made and everyone plays that instead, or in the most-likely case they release the last killer and the only updates we get are bug fixes. What will definitely kill the game is shutting down servers.
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Greed.
Perks locked behind real money, thinking dolly dress up is end game, giving cheap QOL fixes instead of addressing issues that have persisted for years...
BHVR. This is not a free game. You guys are being really greedy and not using your resources properly. Make the base game free if you're going to end up looking like Train Simulator 2020 with 1900$ worth of DLCs. I mean jesus mary and joseph its getting ridiculous.
If they get even 1 decent competitor, the game is going to take a dive into an empty pool and probably wont recover.
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There greed that has shown throughout 2020.
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-Bugs
-And that never anything changes. Neither the survivor objectives (gens), nor the killer playstyle (m1 with pallets and stuns)*.
It will be a slow death.
That said, I don't see it coming in the next years, if not another game comes up, that can really challenge dbd in form of the variety of killer and survivor characters.
*I know, nurse does not care, but she is the only one. So we can see her as a design mistake, even she is one of the design "mistakes" that dbd needs more as anything else. Sad that creativity only comes in such a small extent and every other killer who had a chance to break this circle of m1 looping style got nerfed down :|.
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Bad events and poor dev communication seem like a great way to kill a game's community.
Especially when that community already had to endure poor balance and unchecked toxicity.
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Now this is a subject I don't paticularly like to talk about, because I don't want this game to die, I love it so much. But my guess if it did die, it would probably because of greed, and lack of communication. I just wish the devs actually took some grain of salt and listen to us. I hope this game has a long life because I met a very great community from this game, I'd hate to throw that all away because of the issues of the game. I hope they work on this, if not for the sake of the game then for us as players and people who enjoy this game.
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dude you just went on a rant off topic. thats threadjacking bro lmao. Yeah some of the folks here are being toxic to the devs. This isnt the case. This is an actual plausible thing that could happen and within a year. If BHVR gets an actual competitor for a game. They're going to sink.
Stop supporting? I already supported them since ive bought almost all the DLC, ive also bought multiple copies of the game to support the dev(given away on steamgifts). Look here. Yes this isn't a "necessary product". That is not the point but Neither is an iphone. But, If i bought stock in BHVR, I would be pissed off at the direction they're going. My opinion of BHVR has changed over time. Slowly downhill before a sharp drop and now its stabilizing a bit. so for me, Buying DLC is like buying stock I can't sell back.
"Eventually perks end up on the shrine".... Yeah, no. there are perks that have yet to ever come onto the shrine. Seriously? Inner Strength is a great example. It has never and is a widely wanted perk for locker builds. Locked behind real money. Released over a year ago. "but it eventually.." No they don't. They aren't random. They're picked by BHVR.
I'm entitled to an answer for their decisions. I dont care to get anything "free". Since most everything free cosmetic wise looks bad. So i'm not worried about it. I'm entitled to an answer about the direction they're taking their game since i've invested my actual money into it. This is not a game like Warframe that is a free, that i don't have to worry about spending money on in the event the dev takes a dive or just trashes the whole game. Especially now that they are on this buy "everything with real money kick". But i'm one of those people it doesnt effect but I also completely understand anyone and everyone's rant about them being greedy.
Realistically yes you can play for thousands of hours with the base game. Steam charts say different. Users average just 154 hours total play time on Steam before they stop playing. 154 hours isn't even long enough to unlock even half the survivors perks or the killers perks. Why is it so low if since everything is eventually free? Because its not and people eventually see that. They listen to the Fog Whisperers they're making mad. I hear it on every single one of their stream at least once down talking the dev because of their inability to fix bugs having lasted years. I would know. I've been bitching about getting perma stuck in scenery since 2016, and i have video reports up until last year when I finally gave up trying to report bugs. Since they don't hardly ever listen.
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I feel like the downfall of Dead By Daylight will be due to the fact that Behaviour will not listen to the player base who have been there since day one.
Look at how much issues they have with console alone. Console players have been crying out for optimisation for years and they said they were working on it but it never came and then it was just swept under the carpet. By doing this, you're already turning people off.
Then we have events like this one, where it was all hype just for a few charms, one hook, and one generator. If you look at what other games are doing for Halloween, the differences are astronomical.
I would strongly suggest they start listening to feedback or they will find themselves on a steady decline.
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That was more of an afterthought for Capcom. They didn’t really go all out with it. We need someone with deep pockets and passionate developers to really compete and base their whole game around the concept of 1vs4.
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- When Behaviour stops supporting it and we get bored
- When another dev team releases a slightly competitive, asymmetrical, cat and mouse chase game where both sides can level on each other to shorten/extend the chase, does something better than DBD, and releases while DBD is in another bad patch for 3 months (like Legion release).
#1 is the only realistic outcome, BHVR's grasp on the horror genre and its icons makes developing competition for this game high risk/low reward and BHVR knows this, that's why the game isn't treated very well/better paid devs aren't hired to take care of it
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Devs are milking the Unreal Engine 4.13 and trying to "overhaul" a game that keeps a lot of bugs from years ago. The game is being ridicusly enhanced with stuff that clearly is not working with the lack of professional knowledge about hardware optimization, without considering that BHVR sold this game to run with minimal specs that are not being supported right now and this "product" is still being sold with those minimal specs (on Steam). "jUsT BUy a nEw cOMpUTeR" some say, but that's not a solution in the adult world even when there are people with nice hardware being affected too. The map design could be upgraded and all the textures and effects could be released with a "HD Textures DLC" thing.
Unnecesary changes, ignoring the DbD community, lack of community pools or feedback, cosmetics over optimization, ignoring the cheating problem, that is how many games lost and lose playerbase.
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Game will die when BHVR stops supporting it.
For another company to compete with dbd, they would need at least better game play and their own roster of good original + licensed characters...
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"Eventual"?
Ragnarok has already begun. You cannot stop it.
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Says I'm thread jacking then responds with a thesis lol.
Buying DLC is nothing like buying stock. You buy DLC to play it, not profit off it. That makes zero sense. And if you've bought almost all the DLC despite believing that this game has gone sharply downhill, you have no one to blame but yourself. Accept some responsibility instead of acting like the world (or a dev) owes you anything than exactly what you paid for.
All perks will end up on the shrine, period. Not that it even matters all than much since each new character usually only has 1 perk that's really worth getting and 2 you could easily go without.
Stuff isn't free because you don't personally like what's free? Even if there wasn't a single free cosmetic it wouldn't matter because you don't need cosmetics to play the game.
Hundreds of hours for $10-20 seems like a good purchase to me. And yes, you can go on to play it for thousands. It doesn't matter what "most" people do.
Fog Whisperers are irrelevant to anything I said.
Yeah this has been such an awful experience for you since 2016 and yet you still buy almost all of the DLC and likely cosmetics. Cry me a river.
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Definitely gonna be REDACTED.
Oh yeah I’m not allowed to talk about that or I’ll get banned better censor it for our overlords 😬
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Nuclear apocalypse. Oh, not cause the game lasts that long, it's just coming to claim us all very soon when someone loses an election and literally goes scorched earth in one last act of petty impotence, anger and madness by cementing the fate of a world that long ago succumbed to self-parody and lingers drifting towards insanity in a state of pre-post-apocalypse.💣️
BABY DONT FEAR THE REAPER
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Realistically though... greed for sure. They've only got so much goodwill banked and they're squandering it on the silliest ######### lately, as if they're just entitled to customers and their money.
Once BHVR burn though that last little bit of influence-capital per person, the increasing array of competition will pull away even the die hard fans. They expect that addictive urge and sunk cost fallacies to always pull the customers back, but rebounds get lower and lower when the only thing they're left remembering is that lingering bad taste. Once that next viable obsession gets the slightest hook on that disgruntled customers, even that link is severed.
DBD will limp on for a damned long time turning a net profit, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that they're making an economic profit even now. I very much suspect they don't even see it, continuously mistaking sub-optimal failures for roaring success.
I honestly wonder if they've ever even consulted with an economist. It's not even that they're so relentlessly pursuing income that ends up being the problem for customers... it's that their approach seems so damn short-sided and counter intuitive. They've got to have either incredibly calculated pricing strategies based on projected models... or the exact opposite---they're winging it after glancing at sale stats and discovering "higher prices... more moneys! aha!" Either way, I can't say I've got a damn clue about their approach to customer outreach and responsiveness in an business model so dependent on facilitating that symbiotic relationship with customers for a long term ebb and flow. It's another thing that just seems taken for granted.
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Negligence and complacency.
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When the game will be a too many perks, too many killers, too many unbalanced features fest, it will die.
And look out the current game state, we are pretty close to this. Also, look at the forum today, there are many threads from unhappy players that don't understand the developpers choices and mutism.
So ye, if the devs still continue this way, it will die pretty soon.
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one of two things:
Evolve comes back. Or any other AAA asymmetrical with a budget and competent coders. Doesn't even have to be horror. Just needs to be a shinier toy than DBD.
Servers go down.
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Horrible matchmaking
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