Why do PC killers 9 times out of 10 run NOED?
Like I'm lost. When I go up against a killer running noed it 9/10 usually a pc killer and I don't understand. I'm not trying to through shade since I am a console player, I'm just curious
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Out of all the PC Killer's I've played against, two have had NOED. I think I've played at least 50 matches against PC Killer's.
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How have you narrowed it down to just PC players?
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If they have the globe it doesn't necessarily mean they're on PC. They could be any platform you aren't on.
If anything I see console killers usually running it a lot. Purely anecdotal though.
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This is
probablyactually the worst, most baseless generalization in the entire recorded and un-recorded history of all generalizations that have ever been made since the beginning of conscious thought.19 -
Because it can be OP if your bad at killer like me. It can turn your 1k into a 3k-4k especially if you bring blood warden
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Same reason 9 out of 10 survivors run exhaustion perks/DS. It's a backup plan in case things go south.
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So...
Firstly, there's nothing wrong with running Noed.
Secondly, assuming you are not on PC, you can't actually tell which system your killer is on... just whether they're on the same one as you.
Thirdly, Noed is hands down the strongest perk in the basic killer set. If you are against a newbie killer, 7 out of 10 times they'll be running it because they haven't got anything better. And 2 out of 10 of those who aren't are Huntresses that realize instadowns on M1 isn't great on her. Buuuut you'll occationally see Huntress with it anyway.
Fourthly, the basic killer set outside of Whispers, Sloppy, and Noed is... basically all garbage. The Killer base set hasn't got any kind of power combos like the Survivors have like We'll Make It and Kindred or Spinechill and Resilience. If your killer also happens to be running a killer with bad teachables (waves at Wraith) well... yeah he's gonna have Noed. Because he practically doesn't have another decent option.
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As a PC player who can actually see whether or not someone is on PC, I can confirm that console killers run NOED far more than PC killers. However, I don't actually think this is the case, that's just what my trials tend to show.
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Can people just stop with "platform XY does this and this" ?
For console gamers the global icon includes other consoles.
For PC gamers the global icon includes other PC gamers using STADIA and Windows Store.
Therefore neither console gamers nor PC gamers can even tell whether they faced a console or PC gamer.
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Because both PC and Console survivors have 2 things in common:
- They tend to ignore "doing bones" regardless of how many times they've been burned by NOED.
- They never hold back on their builds or strategies.
If it's a fair mechanic in the game that proves effective against survivors who use every advantage they have without even a thought to how it affects the killers fun... Why not use it? In some aspects, it's one of the few perks that allows killers to level the playing field against survivors and what they bring in, in others, its just a nasty surprise for them that's otherwise avoidable. Either way, there's nothing wrong with using a legal game mechanic to your advantage, no matter what side you play. If you are encountering it 9 times out of 10, there's nothing wrong with you adjusting your own builds and strategies to compensate for it's eventuality or outright counter it. Truth be told, good killers don't actually need it until they are matched with survivors that are equal to or greater in skill than them, at which point the killers miss having it. However despite this, it's far from a "crutch" perk, as a true "crutch" wouldn't be so easily avoidable.
Still people complain about it because of the eternal argument: "Do Bones!" vs. "Ain't nobody got time for that!", So unless survivors actually start "doing bones" on the regular to counter it, Killers will keep using it to punish them "for being lazy". Despite how frustrating it can be, It's as much a legal mechanic of the game as anything the survivors bring in, so I never begrudge a killer for using it if they feel they have to.
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What rank? I rarely see it in red ranks and it's usually used by either extremely lacklustre killers or people with a mori (desperate to get the 4K, probably). The meta tends to be Ruin/Undying, which leads to all totems being cleansed most of the time.
As for the 'doing bones' remark, if we had a counter somewhere it'd be less of a hassle in SoloQ. For SWF it's ez pz, one dude dedicated to the task with a map and a perk. But, once again, it's an argument that only truly matters in a match that should already favour a killer if they don't suck. Unfortunately, if they end up needing NOED vs solos, they tend to not be all that good, which is why people get annoyed I suppose.
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If a killer has NOED that means for the entire game they're running three perks. When I ran it, it was because I was new to the game. Once I had enough perks, I replaced it with something I could actually use for the entire match. Another reason killers may run it is to counter 3 v 1 saves during the end game. Once you see NOED on the screen, survivors are more likely to rethink any heroics during the end game. That's why I recommend Soul Guard. Killers usually slug with NOED because they're in a rush to protect the totem, any hooked survivors and clearing the exit gates. This gives you ample time to get back up (this time with endurance) and cause more chaos.
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Almost every time I encounter it when I play Survivor is on a crossplay killer. Every once in a while it'll be PC but if there's NOED or a Mori for me it's almost guaranteed I'm facing a crossplay killer.
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It's the complete opposite for me. Console players run NOED, PC players don't
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I agree. Novice killers tend to use it more than the experienced killers. However, there are always exceptions. I mostly see NOED on trappers since they’re already at a disadvantage on most maps. Personally I’ve noticed that killers who don’t run any hex totems have a higher likelihood of equipping NOED. If the killer isn’t giving you a reason to cleanse totems, there might be a reason for that.
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I'm a pc killer that is not running noed :P.
Guess I need to run NOED
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It's a nice perk for practicing a new killer and maybe cheating a kill or two out of a game that doesn't go hour way.
Asking why killers run NOED is like asking why survivors run unbreakable.
Why pick yourself up? Just don't get downed.
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I actually haven't seen a single noed over the course of last 50-60 matches.
Not to mention this perk is just meh and definetely not something to be mad about.
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Cause you're low rank
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I can only assume it is because many survivors run on pc always some sort of second changes perk.
But if you dislike this perk, just do totems. As killer, I wish we had just something simple as this to take the second changes perks completely out of the match. Don't get this please as ranting. It is just a comparsion.
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Same with console killers NOED and rest are aura reading skills, baby killers overall... Tunnel after unhook and camp xD
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Dude, on high ranks unfortunately they run NOED too
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Here comes my drunk AF nurse with only NOEd
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Well, after 800 h I can say that killers only love slug and finish game faster as they can. That's why most of killers when bring ebony Mori kill after first hook and straight after unhook
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lies, I don't have tons of ebony moris
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Lies, cuz on my Doctor I have about 10 ebony and I don't use it
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I have ebony moris for days...
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Because PC Survivor dont cleanse totems?
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This. Same with people that complain about Adrenaline on survivors.
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The better question is, why aren't you cleansing totems if NOED is as prevalent as you claim?
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I run NOED a lot but only use it in matches where ive been beaten bad and havent gotten anyone yet. Usually it gets destroyed before i can use it anyways.
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because you are in low rank?
IDK
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To be fair, if you're playing solo queue your teammates don't last long enough in chases for you to do the totems. At least in red ranks. I run small game almost every game due to the ruin/undying meta and these guys will give you maybe a totem cleanse time worth of chase each from healthy lol.
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If they are low rank, it's because they are sick and tired of the BS matchmaking and actually want a chance to play the game.
If they are high rank, it could be multiple things:
- They use it as a crutch even tho it's a crutch made of paper instead of metal
- They are running an endgame build
- They had a bad game and they are pissed off
- They enjoy running NOED
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If you're xbox you get free indicators also only pc has certain names available
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At first it's not true, and secondly.... how do u know it?
*PC players can know if they are playing with / against console.. WHY?...
Because if they play with players who have the symbol, they are from Xbox/Play/Nintento... 100%
*But console players don't really know if they are playing against Pc...WHY?
Because, if for example im playing in Xbox, and i have 3 survivors with the symbol, I CAN'T KNOW IF THEY ARE FROM PC , PLAY OR NINTENDO.... If u are console player, u will never be able to know 100% if the people u are playing with are from Pc, Play or Nintendo.... u will just know if u are playing with ur own platform
Think a bit, before criticize a hole community without sense and open a no sense discussion ;)
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Because 9/10 times survivors don't bother cleansing totems that are right next to them in the open and their end game altruism causes them to give the killer a 4k.
I'm on console with crossplay off, NOED has been common on there since before crossplay was active and still is. It's used a ton in red/purple ranks too. NOED has been complained about by all platforms since before crossplay and by all ranks. Survivors on all platforms/ranks ignore totems and killers take advantage of it.
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Honestly, I see console killers using it a lot, too. It's worth remembering that anyone who hasnt spent 5000 hours getting every perk, the game loves to give you noed in the first 10 blood webs, as well as monstrous and unrelenting, so yeah... Noed is generally the best perk they have for quite a while during the levelling process.
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Mom said it was my turn to post an assumption on what platform someone uses today
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Just do bones™
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havent seen noed since ruin undying became meta
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totally agree XD
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again, totally agree XD
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You have no idea it's pc.
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to be fair though, crossplay for Windows store and Steam has been active for months, and I only ever saw it 3 or 4 times, if a PC player sees a globe it's 99% likely to be a console player.
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NOED is prevalent in low ranks for 2 main reasons:
- If you have no perks on that killer (NOED is available to all).
- It carries them after a brutal beating.
Winning is funner than losing.
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because it is a good perk.
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PC Player here, just passed 800 hours. I only throw on NOED once every 40-50 games, cause using it super often makes me predictable. The only time I consistently use it is a full Endgame build (Rancor, Remember Me, Blood Warden, and NOED).
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Play in higher ranks around 10~8 they don't use it often.
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Are we really going to pretend that Stadia and Windows Store gamers exist?
And even then only PC players can chat so if nobody responds in the endgame you know they are console
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