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After clown gets buffed pig will be the weakest killer in the game and I’m sad
I think pig is my favorite killer unfortunately she’s just so weak it hurts to play her it seems the saw licensing holders are willing to work with bhvr so why haven’t we gotten a rework? Or buffs yet? And here’s a important question..when the pigs map gets reworked will we see her get changed ? At least a addon pass with a few buffs
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When I go against a pig, the pig wins 50% of the time. I think the pig is pretty solid. I might just be a crap player lol
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I love going up against pig lol when I see a pig I know it’s most likely going to be a easy game
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www.twitch.tv/scorpionz
enjoy realizing pig is better than you think
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Yes, if we ignore Plague, Wraith, Demogorgon....
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Nice joke
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The pig is pretty good, no terror radius when crouching is pretty solid
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I know who that is lol just bc you can win with someone dosnt mean there good.. i could almost 4K every game with old Freddy does that mean he’s good? Or trutalent can make any killer look strong does that mean there good? A YouTuber I watch won 50 games in a row with old bubba WITH speed limiter ...just bc you can get consistent 4K’s dosnt mean the killers good lol
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Demo is only considerd weak because no one plays him. Shred alone makes him better than half the cast.
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Don't worry. The Twins may take that prize. That said its a shame to see how many indirect nerfs pigs slowdown has had with the EGC.
It does seem like the majority of pigs I play against nowadays, while rare, are pretty good killers to start with so they do pretty decently as Pig.
I'd say she's a better stealth killer than Micheal and Wraith thats for sure.
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Wraith and Demo are actually pretty solid. They could use some tweaks but nothing major should happen to their basekits. Pig on the other hand... might need some more drastical changes.
People have been talking about some Pig changes for a while now so there's a chance she'll be next up in line.
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Woah!! Plague is top tier in my opinion, especially against players that cleanse 24/7
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The only thing she needs is to make It so that survivors cant leave the trial with a jigsaw box on their head. Which is not hard to do for the devs considering Victors power allows the Twins to have that advantage.
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She's a lot weaker in Red Ranks. Her power is a good concept but doesn't really encourage Survivors to cleanse. They may be Exposed but less risky than her machine gun of death.
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There's an unfortuanate truth in your statement. Good players won't cleanse unless they absolutely have too. Without Corrupt plague has no chase power, meaning she has to go get it. And if the survivors can juke you or just decide to stay far apart and tank it/not panic cleanse you now have no power for the rest of the match.
It's the same with the new killer.
I do like Plague but I feel like I have to run chaser perks just to stand a chance.
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Victors power isn't really like Pigs old one. You can stand at the gate and get hit OR remove Victor and instantly escape. It doesn't trap you in the trial with a potential death sentence like Pigs masks used to.
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Maybe. But I find his powers are an inferior version of other Killers. He's a bit of an all-rounder, but that means everything about him is weaker.
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He's definitely a more conservative killer. I've had the most luck playing him like Trapper or Hag. Just locking down one section of the map with 3-5 nearby gens all linked with activated portals and just patrolling and not being baited away. It's surprisingly strong.
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To be fair I'm green ranks do wouldn't know lol
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I see this as a fundamental skills situation, where he knows how to play tiles so well he could play any killer and do well. He could probably pick any M1 killer and do amazingly. I mean, this is the guy with (apparently) the most sacrifices in the entirety of DBD. He's very good. But give him Ghostface or Wraith or a similar killer and he could probably do just as well if not better.
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Almo comfirmed that her add-ons were getting looked at at some point but no changes to her base-kit because she's somewhat decent.
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"No changes to base kit"
LETS SEE IF THEY MAKE IT THREE FOR THREE
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Demo is only considered weak because is weak.
Is necessary explain that? Look his addons... My god.
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They said the same with Nurse and they slapped a power gauge on her
Now watch, Pig gets a power gauge for how long she can crouch
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This might come as a shock to you but a lot of us killers don't use add ons every game.
Yeah all his portal related add ons are trash but his teleport speed add ons are abolutely insane.
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I'm a Demo main (Rank 1) and the teleport speed addons are not the best..lol. The best addons are his brown addon Rat Liver, and Mews Guts, by far.
Demogorgon needs Rat Live in the basekit and maybe, will be viable.
If you don't use Addons in ur match, or you're Nurse/Hag, or you are not in red rank.
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That's false. For many mid or high tier killers their basekit is decent enough to not require add ons. Blight? Unnecessary. Oni? Not really. Top Knot is nice, but once again not necessary. Ghostface? No
Rat tail is good but not vital. As long as you're in a portal before the one you're heading to is cleansed survivors are forced off of it, and the actions is short anyway.
And while Rat Liver is good I don't think its vital, longer loops give you more than enough time to charge up. It's really only good for shorter, tighter loops that you can get the pallet dropped quickly enough anyway.
The portal teleport speeds are fantastic and my personal favorites. However, the undetectable ones are straight trash and I wonder why they even made it in. The only one thats worth it is the Pink one. But there's a global teleport sound..... and you can hear his footsteps from like 16 meters away even if he doesnt just teleport right on you. The ones that make portals slightly longer to cleanse can be decent if you've got a lot of activated portals by gens.
He needs an add on pass tbf.
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How can you go from 4King with old freddy almost every game to struggling with the pig?
I mean i agree that she'a not the best but if you're m1 skills are good enough to make old freddy work then pig shouldn't really be a problem right?
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No, I think Trapper is still the weakest killer in the game and will continue to be post-clown-buff. He's seriously the only killer in the entire game who can waste time setting up a power that no-one even interacts with because they can just choose to hold W instead.
Pig is weak, but not that weak. At her absolute worst she's an m1 killer with mild game slowdown. As opposed to Wraith, whose a stealth killer with no stealth (at his worst), trapper who lets gens go for no reason, Legion who relies on quick injures and deadzones, and Clown who has a massive self-slowdown but at least counters Hold-W.
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I never said I couldn’t 4K with her I said it’s painful to play her there’s a massive difference there..
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Idk..wraith and maybe demo are worse
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The Clown is getting nerfed, not buffed, lmao.
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Aah owkay my bad
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If he gets nerfed I’ll eat my shoe
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If you think the Pig is weak you do not have a very solid grasp of how to play killer effectively imho.
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Funny joke lol good one it gave me a good laugh thx
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Seems like your mind is pretty made up and you just posted this to confirm your bias. Care to elaborate on what exactly makes her the weakest killer? Maybe share some gameplay to prove your point?
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Oddly enough, Pig was the only killer I was able to pick up and win games pretty consistently from the start. Of course that's just anecdotal evidence which doesn't count for much at all... But yeah, I'm cool with buffing one of my mains if that's what the devs wanna do lol
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I'd like to play in a potato field that doesn't require a slowdown perks, too.
RBT is just a tool of luck. 99% gens? Are there survivors who still do that? The correct counter is to trash it with gens rush before the RBT is used.
Normal survivors will leave the loop when they see Pig crouching. Moving from palette to palette without being able to use a Killer power in the chase is no fun.
And while Cannibal's chainsaw can keep up with Sprint Burst, Ambush Dash can't. Why?
Her POV when she's crouching is lower than Victor's and the screen is mostly hidden by grass.
I think her base kit is outdated and needs to be revisited. Not just the add-on path.
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Are clown changes coming with the Twins update?
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All of the data I have on Pig indicate she is in the top third of Killers for performance.
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It's like Demogorgon is so bad, that not only the Dev's forgot about it, so did the players too. Lol
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Who's the worst killer on that list then?
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Pig is a b tier killer. ######### do you even mean that she'll be the weakest? Legion exists, trapper exists, wraith exists, doctor exists, Myers exists.
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Nurse
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Makes me wonder just how much they use stats like this to determine their changes. If we took all the stats into account and nothing else we would come to the conclusion that Nurse is the worst killer in the game but that is objectively not true in the slightest.
I really hope they stop this "from the data gathered we did this..." Because changing almost all things in the game primarily based on data is just not good for the future of this game at all.
Remember according to them, people who run object have a low escape rate so the perk "really isn't that bad"...
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We've heard the song and dance before. :P
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I'm pretty sure they give it decent amount of credit but it's not all there is for balancing. They may not be the brightest in certain aspects of figuring out DBD's balance but they aren't that daft to balance solely on kill rate (which isn't even representative of ranking)
That's why imao feedback is so important, we need to tell them what's wrong with the game so that they can start figuring out if our concerns are valid and adjust them.
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If you guys ever wonder why there's only one designer who interacts with the forums...
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Nurse is a special case because her skill cap is so high. The very best Nurse players perform on par with the very best players of other top-tier Killers.
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A Clown rework does not mean it's a buff? He is decent at this time if he gets buffed it will probably be a small buff. Could just as well be a small nerf.
Oh and Pig is not the worst killer that would be Trapper probably.
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