Survivors Don’t Worry!

@Gemasuda said:
This thread is to ensure survivors know it will be ok.  For months crybaby killers have asked for an advantage to ensure they get 4K matches every time.  Well it happened and the devs listened and now they can enjoy stomping their way through groups and earning those 4K blood points.  

Dont worry about the responses you you put on this community because rest assured the same people who were complaining about buffing killers will disregard your pleas for help and do everything they can to make you look foolish, examples (git gud, your bad, etc, etc)

But the good news...

Like anything in life cause and effect will happen, right now killers get instant ques and enjoy a blood point advantage normally.  But when survivors stop playing survivors and start playing killers more in order to enjoy the game in its current state, killers will start having longer ques and the cycle will start over again.

So in conclusion, my fellow survivor mains, give it time, it will work itself out, for now just play killer and stack up those blood points with little to no effort involved.  Enjoy the new patch!

So, what you are saying is I can actually play killer and not have to wait an hour for the lobby to fill up?

If you're having a hard time as a survivor, you're going to have a really hard time as a killer. Which means that you won't be making any more bloodpoints by simply playing as a killer.

@apropos said:
If you're having a hard time as a survivor, you're going to have a really hard time as a killer. Which means that you won't be making any more bloodpoints by simply playing as a killer.

If he can't do well playing survivor, imagine what would it be if he played killer. The guy would be stomped!

@apropos said:
If you're having a hard time as a survivor, you're going to have a really hard time as a killer. Which means that you won't be making any more bloodpoints by simply playing as a killer.

So, being a new player, should I learn the Survivor side before trying to go Killer-main? So far, starting with Killer, I damn near walked away from this game for good yesterday. Right now, I'm sitting very much on the fence. But trying to play Killer as a brand new player . . . well . . . suddenly the issues I left Overwatch over didn't seem to matter much anymore, and I was prepared to just head on back.

@Lowbei said:

we get it, youre salty. no need to rant.

This coming from you. Sure bud.

@yeet said:
you'll play killer for 5 games, realise it's too frustrating for you and then go back to easy mode

Killer is easy mode. You can't die. You can't walk 30 feet without tripping over bloodpoints. What is so frustrating about playing killer again?

Lowbei said:

Gemasuda said:

This thread is to ensure survivors know it will be ok.  For months crybaby killers have asked for an advantage to ensure they get 4K matches every time.  Well it happened and the devs listened and now they can enjoy stomping their way through groups and earning those 4K blood points.  

Dont worry about the responses you you put on this community because rest assured the same people who were complaining about buffing killers will disregard your pleas for help and do everything they can to make you look foolish, examples (git gud, your bad, etc, etc)

But the good news...

Like anything in life cause and effect will happen, right now killers get instant ques and enjoy a blood point advantage normally.  But when survivors stop playing survivors and start playing killers more in order to enjoy the game in its current state, killers will start having longer ques and the cycle will start over again.

So in conclusion, my fellow survivor mains, give it time, it will work itself out, for now just play killer and stack up those blood points with little to no effort involved.  Enjoy the new patch!

we get it, youre salty. no need to rant.

Kilmeran said:

@CoolAKn said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ZombieGenesis said:
@Kilmeran Starting as a survivor will certainly help you learn the pacing of the game. It also helps by showing you what survivors experience; what they can see and hear. You'll also get a feel for how they move and roam around the map, which can help for anticipating their moves as a killer. I suggest at least always doing the survivor dailies even if you're a killer main.

Originally, I found Survivor boring, but that was also frustration by the Skill Checks not stopping precisely when I hit the button. Considering I have a top-of-the-line keyboard and set-up, that pissed me off to no end. I have never had a game with any delay in key-press to action before.

But if that's the best way to learn the game, I suppose I have dealt with worse things in games in the past.

Edit: Actually, it was more than that. The delay was inconsistent. Sometimes there would be that delay several skill checks in a row, or an entire match. Then, all of a sudden, it wouldn't delay, which then caused the skill check to miss early because I was pressing for the delay. That ######### is what made me originally walk away from survivor.

I find myself in the same boat. Some matches, the delay becomes too much that I feel practically worthless for the entire match. I'd play killer more if the lobbies didn't take an hour to fill up.

Yeah, and it makes it more difficult to develop the muscle memory for it. Will it delay? If so, how much? Will it not delay? Why the hell is this a needed prayer to RNGesus?

@Terrortot said:
Kilmeran said:

@CoolAKn said:

@Kilmeran said:

@ZombieGenesis said:

@Kilmeran Starting as a survivor will certainly help you learn the pacing of the game. It also helps by showing you what survivors experience; what they can see and hear. You'll also get a feel for how they move and roam around the map, which can help for anticipating their moves as a killer. I suggest at least always doing the survivor dailies even if you're a killer main.

Originally, I found Survivor boring, but that was also frustration by the Skill Checks not stopping precisely when I hit the button. Considering I have a top-of-the-line keyboard and set-up, that pissed me off to no end. I have never had a game with any delay in key-press to action before.

But if that's the best way to learn the game, I suppose I have dealt with worse things in games in the past.

Edit: Actually, it was more than that. The delay was inconsistent. Sometimes there would be that delay several skill checks in a row, or an entire match. Then, all of a sudden, it wouldn't delay, which then caused the skill check to miss early because I was pressing for the delay. That ######### is what made me originally walk away from survivor.

I find myself in the same boat. Some matches, the delay becomes too much that I feel practically worthless for the entire match. I'd play killer more if the lobbies didn't take an hour to fill up.

Yeah, and it makes it more difficult to develop the muscle memory for it. Will it delay? If so, how much? Will it not delay? Why the hell is this a needed prayer to RNGesus?

Skill checks are client side not host, you can be in the middle of killer disconnect and skill checks will still appear.

Yeah, I know that, which makes the framerate drop that would randomly cause it extremely annoying. Especially because the graphics in this game aren't that intense to begin with. I can run Overwatch on the highest and maintain high FPS, even in the middle of a full team-on-team battle with all the particle effects exploding everywhere.

The only other thing I can think of is that they have DBD optimized for #########, even on PC.

@Dreamnomad said:

@yeet said:
you'll play killer for 5 games, realise it's too frustrating for you and then go back to easy mode

Killer is easy mode. You can't die. You can't walk 30 feet without tripping over bloodpoints. What is so frustrating about playing killer again?

spoken like someone with very little experience in the game honestly

@Malakir said:
TheShowtime7 said:

Yeah killers are the biggest cry babies ever. Complain about every damn thing in the game even if they get their ways. Have fun waiting in lobbies forever real soon. Takes 4x times more survivors to start a game remember! 

need the one to host remember.
Seriously are you guys at least bother to read the patch? Or only the bad things skipping the good ones? I'm actually more happy as survivor to use more perks than killer to make insidious useless and punished if I take a path near a hooked survivor. Like.. What?

killer isn't punished if there's a survivor in the radius

Kilmeran said:

@apropos said:
If you're having a hard time as a survivor, you're going to have a really hard time as a killer. Which means that you won't be making any more bloodpoints by simply playing as a killer.

So, being a new player, should I learn the Survivor side before trying to go Killer-main? So far, starting with Killer, I damn near walked away from this game for good yesterday. Right now, I'm sitting very much on the fence. But trying to play Killer as a brand new player . . . well . . . suddenly the issues I left Overwatch over didn't seem to matter much anymore, and I was prepared to just head on backIo

>One of the best things about this game is the learning curve. When you are new, you pretty much suck, but the more you play, the better you get. It won't ho!d.your hand and those kiddos used to hand out trophies probably won't find them  here (unless , they play survivor and find an amazing group.)

>just play the killer you like. Read a few guides and actually learn to play him/her. You will be 4king at low ranks in no time and working your way up. There is no real "trick" to getting good. Idiots are still idiots and the people that use their brain and practice get good (at whatever that may be). As it should be.

@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:

@HellDescent said:
So my guess these massive buffs you speak of is a 0.5 second faster hook time, 4 seconds longer to heal, moving a lighthouse totem and slow vault adjustment so that you can't run around a jungle gym or a killer shack for 5 minutes?

Dude no joke, i was watching Angrypug because ScottJ wasnt on (and i generally love listening to twitch players complain about changes whenever we get them)

Listen to this lol
Go to - 4:11:15
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/323630169?t=04h11m15s

From playing today all i've seen is more cooperation with rando survivors , slight shift in survivor perks, and people actually saving together.

I only play solo and have since launch , solo is not even that hard as all these whinging people have been screaming about.

"i´m not good as killer"
"Killer is eaaaaaasy"

i still find playing solo survivor to be easy shrug

@apropos said: Advice other's have provided is good. But personally, I initially played as a survivor, but moved to a killer almost right away because I was literally too effing terrified to move when I played as a survivor, lol.

However, when I revisited survivor and tried to replicate what survivors did to get away from me when I was the killer, it wasn't scary anymore. The killers are pretty blind, so at times all one needs to do to escape is crouch and circle an object like a tree or bush. It even works in the middle of a chase at times. The field of view for killers is just tiny.

Oh, I've definitely noticed that about Killers. The FoV is tiny as hell, the controls for turning and strafing are wonky as all hell (and I've spent over an hour redoing and adjusting my DPI and in-game mouse sensitivity), the hitboxes are so bad they make Paladins' look consistent.

See, as far as First-Person, I came from Overwatch and some Paladins. I've played OW almost nightly since launch day, with only a three month break due to burn-out. I'm used to a certain responsiveness in first-person, be it Overwatch or Paladins. The responsiveness and FOV in DBD is atrocious. It would make sense if it at least decided to use movement acceleration for the killer's first-person (OW and Paladins do not, but I have played FPS' in the past that do), but it's not even that. It's like it tries to use movement acceleration, but then decides: Nah, screw it. And it feels like some bastardized love-child of using it and not using it. Meanwhile, I tell my Killer to strafe right, then move forward, and it's like he's moving in some low-gravity environment.

Now I'm not even sure I want to get good with Killer. The muscle memory this wonky stuff is going to require is most definitely going to screw with my OW game-play. And that's just a personal gaming line I'm not willing to cross. I'm not quitting Overwatch any time soon, and I'm in my mid-40s, it already took a while for me to get all the muscle memory for flexing into a decent Hero roster as needed, in the first place.