The 2 survivors Left , Slug to try to stop hatch Strategy

its an inherent flaw to the design of the hatch itself, much like 99%ing exit gates. If they want an interesting way to change it, make it so that a slugged survivor (must be in dying state) can open the hatch if there are only two left.... BUT, in doing so, it will immediately reclose and will be unable to be reopened, including with a key. then, the egc starts.

This would cause it to have a small chance of being able to avoid the last man slug game (by chance,) but would still be able to be prevented by the killer. If the killer sees it near where they slugged them, they'll be forced to abandon the strategy but also know where the hatch is, so they can still deny it and push on to the exit gate game.

Technically this would be worse for killer than the current system, but it would also be better. most importantly, it would be less boring for all parties involved.

It seems for most killers, games aren't fun and they aren't wins unless they get a 4k. I personally am bored to death as killer when survivors just hide and wait for hatch. I know they're going to get it and I'm glad the game will end and I can move on to the next. I do slug sometimes to try to find the person who is hiding and doing nothing, and then I try to give the person I already downed the hatch as a reward for actually playing. But most survivors are selfish and bad, so it's hard to do. And I'm a survivor main, btw.

Most of the time, I settle for the 3k unless the survivors were being toxic, then no one escapes death (:

I can understand this kind of mentality, but I play solo and have had teams that all suicide on hook. The hatch is great for when I need to escape after playing well, but I have a lot of trouble finding it to begin with lol! I have had teammates watch me die on the hook and all i see is them teabagging while i struggle which is... cheap lol. But whatever, I prefer a good match with one bad teammate to getting slugged and such.

I have switched from doing that for a while now to just being fine with the 3k since that a win in my eyes now. However playing for hatch is honestly really annoying on both sides as its kinda just down to luck and as others have said, if a killer wants to go for the big win, that is the play to make. The survivor will bleed out eventually but its just really unfun for everyone involved.

Its just that hatch is a fundamentally flawed mechanic the rewards the survivor(s) for playing poorly or allows dumb things with keys. If hatch wasn't a thing this wouldn't happen. Yeah the last survivor is screwed but well, they should be, the gens didn't get done, the team failed the objective. We don't stop one survivor from leaving if the killer got no kills so I believe the most fair thing to do would be to remove it or rework it.

If we want to prevent them from just holding the game hostage by hiding just start the EGC immediately when only one survivor is left or rework the idle crow mechanic or something so it starts after way too long has passed with no chase if we're worried about multiple people hiding indefinitely (which can still happen in live btw).

But most other killer don´t. In these 2 ppl situation, i usually get found because i stll do gens, while the other just hides. i really think fpr a lot of killers who claim to do that its just wishfull thinking, because they dont know who the one just hidding is, and they only find the one near the gen.

I've had plenty of games where I'm doing so well, on the top of my game, haven't been hooked once, escaped a chase several times. But everyone else on my team just isn't as good and they get picked off one by one. Of those games, half of them have been slug n seek and the other half have been roll the dice. I rarely find the hatch when it's the latter, and I only sometimes get away when it's the former.

The killer didn't earn my death any more than I earned the hatch. In these instances maybe two or three gens will have been completed and most of the time the game has only lasted like six minutes. But why am I held to the standard of three other players who couldn't keep up with the killer?

The hatch is fine as it is, it's an RNG feature that the killer will have found before any one survivor more often than not. And the vast majority of players who bring in keys are basically tunnel killed anyways. Caps locking words doesn't bolster your argument, it just shows that you're using buzz words to illicit a response out of people who don't actually read what you wrote.

Because the killer's main goal is to kill, not let somebody go just because. If the killer wants to, they let go the last one. Otherwise, slugging one of the remaining survivors is a great strategy, worked like a miracle with a ds laurie for me.

I let the last survivor have the hatch if I saw them trying their best as a solo and not being toxic like the swf they came with. Otherwise I don't see any reason to do it.

But sometimes you ddint earn it. If matchmaking sticks you with the rank 18 noob, its a 3v1 game basicly. However, they guy that you didn´t catch several times and is still unhooked while you got all others have not earned it why?

It might be true if you play vs. swf, but solo is a lot more unrelieble, and a lot of variables you have no control over lead to you winning or losing without having earned anything (on both sides).

I play solo survivor most of the time, but i do play killer. I actually never slug for the 4k, instead i just hook the 3rd and race the last one for the hatch, which works well in the majority of games, and dosen´t waste further time in a game i won anyway.

I ussually don't bother. Also unpopular oppinion i find the hatch (outside of the slugging) to be pretty wel balanced

It gives hope to the last survivor but is pretty much in favor of the killer (faster movement speed, no fear of travel, can close the hatch before the survi or can jump in if found closed at the same time)

Gameplay wise it stops the last survivor from hiding all the time, lore wise it gives hope which the entity feeds on and design wise most old slasher movies have the last person surviving and this is a good way to emulate it.

It's pretty hard to fix the slugging problem though. The only thing i can think of is to decrease the max timer for every survivor dying. But that will give problems with DS where the killer will either has to let the survivor bleed out or be forced to eat the DS.

You always earn your win/loss as killer as you can't be carried nor dragged down since you're solo. So what if they have a noob? You still beat them and therefore deserve the win. Do we take away wins in sports when a player on the other team gets injured? That logic doesn't make sense.

If two survivors are alive and one is slugged that doesn't mean you automatically deserve a 4k. Two dead doesn't mean the whole team was outplayed. If that's the case the game would be 2v1 or 3v1 instead of 4v1. Expecting the last survivor to come out and give themselves up for a free kill is entitlement.